Haitians in Ohio

It’s a comedy show that includes facts. Are you arguing with the facts? Are you saying Haitians really are eating cats in Springfield?

Why are you blaming civilians for the Haitian infrastructure? Do you expect them to dig the city’s sewage system or their government?
Ever heard of Newbern, USA?

Innovating Out of Neglect: New Solutions for America’s Sewage Crisis

More than 1 in 4 people living in the U.S. lack access to safe, reliable sewer systems, creating unsanitary living conditions. Newbern, Alabama, nestled in the state’s remote Black Belt region, epitomizes this crisis. For decades, the people of Newbern have known this issue first hand. Jul 10, 2024

https://worldprojects.columbia.edu/news-media/innovating-out-neglect-new-solutions-americas-sewage-crisis#

Yes. Classic invasion strategy. Leave your home with few of your possessions, get a job, go to church, pay your taxes. The horror.

I’m talking about Haitians in general. The so-called government is just as bad as the citizens.

Lausten already linked to that story. You make the same mistake as him not knowing the difference between faulty private septic tanks and public sewage systems.

There is no evidence they’re eating cats. I already discussed that in the op. There’s evidence they are making life worse for many citizens.

I know the difference very well. I am currently living on a septic system .
Fortunately had enough funds to install a switchable second system @ 3000.00

So you assign blame to homeowners instead of local governments for maintaining a standard of sewage systems, public or private?

If this is a local problem, the government must make sufficient funds available for installing modern septic systems.

It usually comes down to rich land owners who buy such neglected properties for pennies on the dollar, develop it, and sell it for a hefty profit.

Poverty always leads to unsanitary conditions. Poor people have no funds to make large one-time investments. That is why it is a public health issue that should be addressed by local government.

Very true that poverty and unsanitary conditions go hand in hand. Also, many of the residents in those communities don’t maintain their systems to begin with.

The situation with bringing public sewage into rural areas in always complicated. Mostly, it is unworkable – but you’re correct that local governments should help with the cost of replacing the citizens’ septic systems. We run into another problem there, because most of those small towns like the one in Alabama, are broke.

County and state governments could look into the problem, but the small town mayors have endless political red tape to get through before their problems are even heard.

But that is no reflection on the poor people. The blame lies with the local government officials who usually are not poor!

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Most of the blame, yes. As I said, the citizens are also at fault for not maintaining their property and running the wastewater into local streams.

And how do you maintain a property and avoid a faulty sewage system from running wastewater all over the place when you don’t have money? Magic?


A fetid pool of sewage lies just steps from the door of a mobile home.
ANNA LEAH FOR HUFFPOST

Septic systems need some routine maintenance, just like any other part of a house. It doesn’t cost much. Some people are just stupid and lazy.

Routine septic maintenance costs about $300.00. For some people that’s their entire income for a month.

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Pumping and inspection should happen every few years at most. If you can’t afford that you’re doing something seriously wrong.

Have you ever been really poor?

Oneguy just doesn’t like clicking on links. Here’s the first lines

The United States economy is the world’s largest, a position it has held since 1890. Its technology, science and research have helped reshape the globe. Yet it has failed to provide the most fundamental service of an advanced society — access to clean water and sewage systems — to all its citizens.

Or read the preview pane. This isn’t something that individuals can fix. We can’t all become engineers and waste management experts. I usually don’t like claiming personal knowledge, but just so happens I maintained the computer systems for septics in a big county. It’s complicated. It’s hard to get inspectors everywhere. It’s hard to educate everyone and installers know this and they cut corners.

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Not like those people. Even if I was, I would know that how to deal with that problem much better than they have.

:laughing: Totally crazy ass take. Homeowners fix their septic systems all the damn time
with no problems at all. Just call a plumber and they’ll handle it.

As for your comments about inspections being hard to get and contractors cutting corners, not true at all. Inspections mean money for the contractor, so I can’t see why they wouldn’t be doing them. And a functional septic tank is hard to fake unless the homeowner is blind and has no sense of smell.

I sense you still have not read the article, not even the first paragraph. I can relate to what it says from personal experience. The person who installed my septic eventually lost his license, but that takes time, and he screwed over a bunch of people. Some counties have the person who intalls also be the one who signs off on the inspection. Just because your toilet isn’t backed up, it doesn’t mean your septic is properly handling waste, and it can take a year or more before it becomes obvious, or your waste can be going into ground water and its your neighbors who start smelling the problem. “Call a plumber” is not the solution.

The article is mostly bogus. The title itself is ridiculous. It starts by talking about how America doesn’t provide public water and sewage to everybody as if that is some kind of failing.

The fact is, in every wealthy country in the world, urban and suburban areas are on the public system, and rural areas have wells for water, and private septic systems for sewage. It’s like that because it’s not practical to build that infrastructure in rural areas. And guess what? Private systems need maintenance sometimes – just like everything else you own.

The article was written by a pampered college student who has no idea how things work, and that’s a good description of you as well.

Glad we got to heart of it. No wonder you aren’t addressing the arguments. Is it education that you think is the problem? How does one acquire the wisdom that you think you have?

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The only wisdom I have about this stuff comes from working construction. Most people have no idea how anything in their home or community works, but a surprising amount seem to think they do because they went to college.