Electric vehicles - an opportunity?

The application of resources (capital) to achieve a goal (profit) requires that some entity must chose the resources and the application. Authority to select (take possession of) resources is demonstrated by the act of selection. Possession of a resource establishes ownership. The application of resources establishes authority over (ownership of) the space where the application is performed.

Ah, but some of us are more entitled to the fruits of the earth, because we can take it at will. “Finders keepers Losers weepers” (Plautus).
Earth be damned .

How does that sound? That is how it is!

So, the determination of whether it is “right” for a child of any age to receive his or her sustenance from a parent depends on whether or not the parent is alive? Careful now, the answer should be applied also to a spouse or a parent of the individual. And, of course, that determination should be applied to anyone receiving anything based on the work of others. Many today seem to feel that they are “entitled” to quite a lot which has resulted from the work of others.

One might use the answer to argue that unless an individual has risked his or her life to establish and protect a society from those who would destroy it he or she should not be allowed to enjoy the benefits of that society.

So, Rosseau expresses an opinion as if he had the authority to determine right and wrong. He presented quite an ego and a total lack of understanding human nature.

What makes you think you have authority to ownership of anything except of life’s basic needs?
Every time you take more than you consume, you are breaking a natural laws of thermodynamics.

You want to see the result of your application of resources ?

4,676,342 Forest loss this year (hectares)
6,295,621 Land lost to soil erosion this year (ha)
32,785,952,106 CO2 emissions this year (tons)
10,790,468 Desertification this year (hectares)
8,805,362 Toxic chemicals released in the environment this year (tons)

865,466,112 Undernourished people in the world
1,736,241,075 Overweight people in the world
822,905,914 Obese people in the world
6,898 People who died of hunger today
$ 142,585,953 Money spent for obesity related diseases in the USA today
$ 42,642,236 Money spent on weight loss programs in the USA today

4,075,413,863 Water used this year (million L)
757,176 Deaths caused by water related diseases this year
777,330,341 People with no access to a safe drinking water source

105,282,748 Energy used today (MWh), of which:
89,622,620- from non-renewable sources (MWh)
15,854,664- from renewable sources (MWh)
659,706,931,353 Solar energy striking Earth today (MWh)

21,593,468 Oil pumped today (barrels)
1,420,172,447,790 Oil left (barrels)
14,810 Days to the end of oil (~41 years)

1,078,361,606,877 Natural Gas left (boe)
56,756 Days to the end of natural gas
4,289,788,635,958 Coal left (boe)
147,924 Days to the end of coal


Read them and weep. In 200 years we have almost undone what took 4 billion years to evolve into a balanced “cinderella climate”.

Entire cultures of humans live as if the earth did not belong to them.

This is where you slip into “might makes right”.

What makes you think you have the authority to tell me I don’t?

My answer to your question was and is in the four sentences of my post. (# 41)

I have never heard of one that did not claim their tribe had territory and resources that belonged to them.

Absolutely. Those applying the “might” always justify that action because they see the sought after result as “right”. Those resisting the “might” of others with their own might also justify their actions to achieve their desired result as “right”. Freedom fighter vs terrorist: point of view.

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Authority to select (take possession of) resources is demonstrated by the act of selection.

Ever heard of “natural selection”?
It is Earth that has ownership of all “natural resources”!

Possession of a resource establishes ownership. The application of resources establishes authority over (ownership of) the space where the application is performed.

No it does not, only earth has ownership of everything on it and in it.
That is why earth is a biome known as “Gaia”.

Everything in or on the earth has opportunity to “interact” with earth’s resources, but these resources are not unlimited and that’s why our interaction with sequestered CO2 (oil) will end in the next ~40 years and the earth’s biome will reclaimed it’s CO2, and global warming may signal the end of human domination over the earth’s resources if not extinction.


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There’s nothing new
There’s no free lunch
You never break even

All activity, including human activity, produces losses.

So then who has ultimate ownership?

I’ll let Carlin illustrate once again;

(warning crude language)

It very well could. I wouldn’t bet against it. Population numbers are always dependent on resources. All populations eventually reach a subsistence level.

Except the insects. They were here first and they will be the last to remain. And that is because they don’t claim ownership.
There are 2 species on the increase, man and the insect. Man because he can change his environment, and the insect because it can adapt to all changes man or the earth’s ecosystem causes.
They admit their dependence on nature and adapt to everything nature can invent, short of total planetary destruction.

Yeah, he’s funny. Whenever I think about a likely path forward for humanity I think about the movie “Blade Runner”. Possibly do-able in the lifetime of some of the children with us today. Shall we have soylent green for supper?

We already do. It’s called SPAM (Special Processed American Meat) and is delicious!..


Private property in terms of the means of production distribution and exchange. Factories, energy and transport for example should be held in common by the workers. Your cartoon take on this would lead one to believe socialists are after your toothbrush!!

Socialism has nothing to do with Capitalism or any kind of Authoritarianism.
It has to do with controlling unlimited greed and the establishment of a exclusive ruling class that maintains power by wealth or force.

IMO the most desirable form of government is based on socio-economic principles that benefit all and requires a fair contribution by all members of that “society” according to ability to pay.