But then you consider President Kennedy worthless, so my feelings aren't hurt by your judgement, which is apparently quite shallow and terribly biased - at least based on the judgements you scatter about.Huhn? JFK? Did I mention JFK somewhere? :roll: Yes in a previous discuss I believe you did dismiss him with a shrug - sorry don't recall your exact words, but I'm pretty sure it was you… hmmm… perhaps I'm mistaken, now that I'm racking my memory, perhaps it was mid atlantic. Please clarify - since I don't imagine your opinion on the man has changed any in the past couple months.
"Anybody who does not care about my pet issues are irrelevant in a political consensus." That about sums you up.Yeah and you represent that fatal disconnect with our dependence on Earth's natural systems and relatively benign and predictable weather patterns - that infuses all too many people these days. And that will fuck us royally. But, I'm about more than about our climate system, I'm also about appreciate our entire fantastic planet and it's life story. Sorry if that seems more valuable to me than NASCAR, football, or Hollyworld, or consumerism, or "Holy" Book thumping, or saber rattling.
Who says understanding Earth’s Evolution is irrelevant?]We can't all be content with being cogs in the machine :coolsmirk:
Yeah and you represent that fatal disconnect with our dependence on Earth's natural systems and relatively benign and predictable weather patterns - that infuses all too many people these days. And that will fuck us royally.Oh great, you're not going to turn this thread into your personal AGW blog too are you? Have you already forgotten the gist of this thread? Have you ever really tried to understand why the vast majority of the planet's population doesn't care about AGW? No of course not. I've gone down this road with you before. What do I represent CC? Above there...what's that? :lol: Your too busy thinking about what you're going to say next to ever really pay attention to what people have to say. Keeping smoking that weed CC...it's doing wonders for you.
Yeah and you represent that fatal disconnect with our dependence on Earth's natural systems and relatively benign and predictable weather patterns - that infuses all too many people these days. And that will fuck us royally.Oh great, you're not going to turn this thread into your personal AGW blog too are you? Have you already forgotten the gist of this thread? Have you ever really tried to understand why the vast majority of the planet's population doesn't care about AGW? No of course not. I've gone down this road with you before. What do I represent CC? Above there...what's that? :lol: Your too busy thinking about what you're going to say next to ever really pay attention to what people have to say. Keeping smoking that weed CC...it's doing wonders for you. Oh great V, now you're going to display that utter dependence on denigration and marginalizing people - rather than thinking about the substance of what's being said - why is that so rampant amongst the right-wing types? You were categorizing how you see me, you brought up the AGW, or you forgot that. What are you drinking? Now I make an observation and rather than admitting to it, or objecting with reasoned thoughts, you gotta come at me with bullshit - "oh no not AGW" you brought it up buddy! Then the pot bullshit - jezz, let's look at who's brain cells are fried: The right wing thinks that endless economic growth is sustainable, And that maximizing profits, minimizing "externalities", commodit-izing humans, and ignoring the natural systems that sustain us - is a sound business plan. . . . Or, of course there's the believing in demonizing enemies, mass producing and exporting weapons of mass destruction, fighting ruthless terror with ruthless terror, is going to make the world more peaceful place . . . Or how's this one - attacking women because they have decided in time of personal crisis to abort an unwanted fetus, with overflowing passionate irrationality and hostility, all in the name of their brand of "love" and the full faith in their own Supreme God on High . . . - but these same citizens standby, condone and wave flags, as we engage in wanton destruction of countless innocent neighborhoods while killing and mangling countless women and children … Here it get's really good The right-wing sincerely believes this will stop terrorism, and act shocked that it doesn't work. Their solution, toss out more marginalizing and toss in more bombs, at the problem. Don't give me shit about taking a toke now and them - Better examine the stoned out (or should I say drunken to stupor) insanity right-wing folks embrace with a passion that allows them full-throttled character assassination, whenever it time to define and defend their own notions.
Back to the topic at hand.
Democracy is a joke, says China – just look at Donald TrumpI don't give a fart who said it. There's much truth to it. The democracy we have in this country has devolved into a joke. . . The Fourth Estate is pretty near dead. . . An under-informed apathetic citizenry. . . Cash as important a votes. . . What have I left out. Oh yeah, believing if we ignore our planet, it's problems will go away. . . Politically manipulated Faith-based rejection of facts and scientific realities. . . etc.
This is really getting ridiculous. Somehow NOW all the evil ideas spewing out of Trump are bad, as if the Conservatives before him were all hippy dippy lovenuts that didn't hate foreigners, women, didn't think we should bomb others countries, etc. How come NOW all of a sudden we see comparisons to Hitler, Mussolini, etc when all along Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld and 99% of the RepubliCons hold the same beliefs as Drumpf? And LoisL - the US is seen as benign? OMG you have your head in the sand. The US is seen as the largest terrorist organization in the world. Bush was a complete dingbat when he said "they" hate us because of our freedoms. BS. They hate us because we invade their countries, completely disrespect their cultures, steal their resources, kill their elected leaders, stage coup after coup, all the while proclaiming how wonderful we are. THAT'S why they hate us. Good god the naivete around here is exhausting.Not to mention they hate us because we are perceived as the Haves while they perceive themselves as the Have Nots.
Back to the topic at hand.Sigh....sad but true...Democracy is a joke, says China – just look at Donald TrumpI don't give a fart who said it. There's much truth to it. The democracy we have in this country has devolved into a joke. . . The Fourth Estate is pretty near dead. . . An under-informed apathetic citizenry. . . Cash as important a votes. . . What have I left out. Oh yeah, believing if we ignore our planet, it's problems will go away. . . Politically manipulated Faith-based rejection of facts and scientific realities. . . etc.
Back to the topic at hand. An under-informed apathetic citizenry. . . Cash as important a votes. . . What have I left out. Oh yeah, believing if we ignore our planet, it's problems will go away. . . Politically manipulated Faith-based rejection of facts and scientific realities. . . etc.Blame it on everybody but you, right CC? Now it's the masses fault. The poor masses are under-informed and apathetic. Ignorant bastards....right CC? If only they all knew what you knew!
Back to the topic at hand. An under-informed apathetic citizenry. . . Cash as important a votes. . . What have I left out. Oh yeah, believing if we ignore our planet, it's problems will go away. . . Politically manipulated Faith-based rejection of facts and scientific realities. . . etc.Blame it on everybody but you, right CC? Now it's the masses fault. The poor masses are under-informed and apathetic. Ignorant bastards....right CC? If only they all knew what you knew! What the hell are you talking about? Rather than formulating hollow pot shots at me -> why not explain yourself. Am I wrong about our media? How? Where? Please explain in a civil issue focused manner rather than telling me I'm a idiot you believe I am and that I'm not worth discussing anything with except to hurl insults, that is If you think AGW is a hoax (the collective you) yes you are either totally uninformed, stupid or deliberately ignoring tons of valid undeniable (at least within the constraints of our real world - in the lala land of reactionary thinking, of course anything can be denied, Earth flat, no moon landing, CO2 science is a hoax even as we use satellite weather images to plan our days - and air to air missile to blow "enemies" out of the sky) Please V, can you offer any substance, besides to your apparent emotional dislike for me?