Here’s a list since 9 days ago of people who died (most of which were black) due to the Floyd riots. Apparently their lives didn’t matter enough for people to really care much.
https://disrn.com/news/the-16-people-who-have-died-in-the-riots-following-george-floyds-death/
I tried doing that with my first response to you and you completely ignored it. If you don’t make the effort to find that post, then it is you who is being disrespectful. It is you that brought up a topic, ignored the response, and moved on to other topics so you could avoid it. edit: Actually, it was my response to your 3rd post. LAUSTENAgain you stated that I am wrong. Care to point out specifically where I am wrong. I repeatedly asked you to point out the tree and you keep pointing to the forest.
Wow. So much in one sentence. And, why was God created, or what ‘source’ did God come from? What exactly is a transcendent source and how do you know about the one God came from? Um, are you claiming that people who believe in God don’t believe in hierarchies? LAUSTENIf I had a dollar for every time this question comes up I could have brought a Ferrari. This comes from the cause and effect argument. Since all effects come from causes, there must have been a first cause, and that cause could not be physical, every physical thing owes its existence to a cause. [The universe and time had a beginning.] The cause had to be outside the material world = and uncaused cause. Then the question you ask comes up in an attempt to insert an internal contradiction.
If God was just another cause in a series of causes that can be explained by science then we need to answer the question “Who created God?” But God is transcendent, outside the box, therefore any demand for a cause of God’s existence is misapplied and confused. Christians believe, based on Scripture that all matter, time, space is dependent on God for its existence. These are contingent, vs God who necessary. Asking for the cause of a necessary being is similar to asking for the difference in weight between red and blue.
Here’s a list since 9 days ago of people who died (most of which were black) due to the Floyd riots. Apparently their lives didn’t matter enough for people to really care much.
https://disrn.com/news/the-16-people-who-have-died-in-the-riots-following-george-floyds-death/
Lets roll reverse this one
Marvin Francois (50): Was shot and killed in Kansas City by THREE BLACK MEN (who’s black lives mattered more than his life) who were trying to steal his Jeep. Francois was a photographer who was documenting the protests. He was shot three times and died at the scene. The Jeep survived the ordeal. (Jeep Lives Matter)
Well, you just said it, and no one has broken down your door and arrested you. LAUSTENI can only answer for myself. No one has broken down my door and arrested me because I respect the law. Now if the police are looking for someone who is avoiding arrest, then yes by all means =break down the door and arrest them.
Well, you just said it, and no one has broken down your door and arrested you.I’m not saying this on a legal level, but more-so that even mentioning such things could get you banned as being an agitator regardless of what evidence you have to show this to be true. Can you even acknowledge the fact that on average black people are more prone to violent behavior without having people harassing you as being a racist?
My point though is that it seems to be socially acceptable (at least on the leftist side) to assume that white people are inherently racist due to the actions of other white people, yet to assume black people are inherently violent due to the actions of other black people is not accepted. Why is one bias acceptable, and the other is not?
My chin dropped reading your misrepresentation of black people. You talk about them as though they are all alike and white are not, which goes to show you’ve lived a very sheltered life and believe everything that’s been fed to you by others. This goes to show that racism is taught. Where to begin…Racism goes both ways. If you refuse to see the faults just because you’re so enchanted by the idea of the perfect group that only does wrong because of what the white man did, then you’re just kidding yourself. You’ve already made a racist conclusion that I must be a racist because I brought up the fact that per capita black people have committed more violent crimes far and above all other races, so I won’t even entertain your statement about how I don’t have black friends.
Do you have black friends? I think you may have made the same error in judgement that I had. I’m sure, like me, the black friends I have are well rounded people who are great people to talk to, but then I realized that most of these are the ones who wanted to make a life for themselves. The black friends that I have don’t listen to Rap singing about how women are whores or about kicking other N***s ass or gunning them down. I’d be curious to know myrian. How many straight up gangsta black friends do you have?
You’ve already made a racist conclusion that I must be a racist -- MitchCan't speak for Mriana, but I concluded that based on your inaccurate facts about crime rates. Then you claim a "black friend" and of course your friends are well rounded, it's those "other" black people that are the problem, the ones who listen to the wrong music. You stated that history doesn't matter, so at what point does something become history, 100 years ago, 10?
Can you even acknowledge the fact that on average black people are more prone to violent behavior without having people harassing you as being a racist?So, no. It's you who made this claim and you who needs to back it up or shut up.
Again you stated that I am wrong. Care to point out specifically where I am wrong. I repeatedly asked you to point out the tree and you keep pointing to the forest. -- TWMApparently not without me coming over to your house and reading the story before I tuck you in at night and bring you some warm milk. The article I linked was about Afro-Colombians and how they were systematically discriminated against. Something you said didn't exist.
I can only answer for myself. --TWM
Tower, that question was to something Mitch said about not being able to speak about something. It had nothing to do with you. Don’t just randomly pick lines from posts and say something random. That’s not how this forum works. Engage the people here, or leave. Read the rules.
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@mitch70 - Can you even acknowledge the fact that on average black people are more prone to violent behavior without having people harassing you as being a racist?@lausten - So, no. It’s you who made this claim and you who needs to back it up or shut up.
The higher prevalence of intimate partner violence among ethnic minorities cannot be explained by any single factor, but seems to be related to risk factors such as substance abuse, unemployment, education, cohabitation of unmarried partners, pregnancy, income.The survey results indicated that 23 percent of black couples reported at least one instance of MFPV. This rate was two times higher than the MFPV rate for white couples (11.5 percent) and 1.3 times higher than the rate for Hispanic couples (17 percent). Rates of FMPV were also higher among black couples (30 percent) than among Hispanic (21 percent) and white couples (15 percent). These cross-ethnic differences in rates of MFPV and FMPV were all statistically significant (Caetano et al. 2000).
Source: Raul Caetano, M.D., Ph.D, National Institute of Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism
it’s those “other” black people that are the problem, the ones who listen to the wrong music.Yes there are black people who are influence by the “wrong” music.
and it’s not just anti-white rap music. I also find rap music that calls women whores and glorifies violence as being bad. We all have our opinions but if you don’t think there’s anythign wrong with this type of music then I have nothing left for you.
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If you prefer I could look for Rap music that talks about the good life of pimping whores.
TimB said:…It is almost as if our government is content to let them (all Nursing home residents) die off. And why not? With the RepugLIARS in charge, it is a financially responsible thing to do. Let them die off and think of all the savings we will have in Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.
TWM replied:
Why not? They are following what Darwin taught. Survival of the fittest, the superior will dominate and replace the weak, it is NS at work.
Darwin never advocated that we help along the evolution of humans by arranging for our elderly to die off prematurely.
TWM goes on to explain that his stance of letting his erroneous idea of Darwinism allow nursing home residents to die off should be considered proper if these residents’ lives have no meaning. And he goes on to assert that without God, their lives have no meaning. (He ignores the fact that “meaning” is a human construct that each individual must determine for THEMSELVES. It is not something that another human can place on them, by virtue of their own superstitious beliefs.)
TWM, make God the meaning of YOUR life, if you wish. Don’t force it onto Nursing Home residents who you believe might as well die, if God is not the Meaning of their lives, and thusly explain that it is quite all right if they are allowed to die off.
Also, sure States should be taking the lead in taking care of Nursing Homes. But we are now DEEP into the Pandemic, and still the Federal Govt has NOT marshalled resources to help the States provide adequate PPE and testing for the Nursing Homes, which are possibly the greatest fields of death for this Coronavirus.
Black people make up for 13.4% of the US population as of the 2018 poll.
In 2017 black people in the US are responsible for:
53.1 % of the murders
28.7% of the raping (Not to be confused with rapping)
54.3% of the robberies
33.5% of aggravated assaults
37.5% of Arson
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-2017/tables/table-43
Here is a viewpoint that will not be popular, I don’t think, among my fellow liberals.
Black slaves in what is now the USA, from the 1600’s, 1700’s and first half of the 1800’s, were bred like beasts of burden. 1st off, only the most rigorous of the slaves even survived the horrors of the slave ship transportation to get here. Who knows what characteristics that selected for? At least it had to select for physiological excellence in terms of early life health.
Then once owned by slave owners, they were selectively bred per the impulses of the individual slave owners, probably much the way dog breeders today, breed for certain characteristics they want their dogs to have. Who knows what characteristics that lead to? I do think that one general characteristics that American Blacks were bred for was probably physical strength and endurance. And I think that that characteristic is evidenced by American Blacks showing disproportionate excellence in many sports activities, today.
Now that, and who knows what else, is just the physiological impact of being bred like dogs. What about the human cultural impacts of being beaten, raped, killed, treated like animals, forcibly separated from any sense of family for hundreds of years, What sort of culturally created characteristics could come from that? (Perhaps something like “controlling others through violence is the way to go in life”?)
But despite all of that, incredibly, most black Americans today, are not thugs and animals. But all in all, if black on black violence really is so prominent, who taught them for hundreds of years that violence toward blacks is the way to control them? Who is still trying to teach them that?
Black Lives Matter.
Yes there are black people who are influence by the “wrong” music.Mitch, you are caricature of a caricature.
Do you have a source for those numbers?
As far as the data that purportedly shows a preponderance of black crime, one should consider the system that collects that data. A system that is very disproportionately geared TOWARD finding blacks to be criminals, and to incarcerate or even kill them.
Mitch, you are caricature of a caricatureA double negative, so I’m normal? :D
I added the link to the source of my information.
Allow me to support the claim -- SreeThe question was, "Can you even acknowledge the fact that on average black people are more prone to violent behavior without having people harassing you as being a racist?"
And you cited one study. Although there are more, I’ll give you that.
The study does not address the statement “on average black people are more prone to violent behavior”. The “N” in NIAAA, where the study was published is for the USA. So you are talking about people in recent generations in this country. But the statement is saying that all black people are prone to violence, as if skin color is the determining the factor. Do you see how you didn’t provide evidence for the statement?
@mriana All that ancestral responsibility is a bunch of bull. If you want to keep black people back for another 200 years then just keep telling them they’re the victim. So long as you give them this option they’ll take it like just about anyone would. No amount of money will fix the black community as it’s an internal issue that it seemingly unresolvable.
I’m not sure where you got that victim crap. I never said anything about that and I do not know how you got that out of anything I said or anything about options. You do not make any sense, so you need to explain what you are talking about.
I don’t know what you are talking about concerning anti-caucasian views or indoctrination. The only reason why black men have more rapes per capita is because they were often blamed for rapes they didn’t do. Case in point is Springfield MO and their skeleton. Seems to me you need to dig deeper or take a few courses in African American history before you start propaganda that’s been taught you.
The men didn’t do it, but because they were black, they were the scapegoats: 1906 lynchings grew from tensions, racism — Thriving black community died
A caricature is not a zero, it is more like a simplistic funny version of something. So if you have a caricature of a caricature it is an even more simplistic and funny version.
Hence, I don’t think that being a caricature of a caricature means you are normal. It means you are an even more simplistic and funny version than the 1st caricature.
However, in fairness, it is, I think an ad homonym. It would have been better stated, I think, that your assertion was a caricature of a caricature.