TWM, I will address many of your points, but I want to make it clear that we have rules on this forum and it moderated. We have banned people. We allow a variety of opinions because that’s how we all learn, but you are skirting the edge of those rules. Please be respectful in your interactions here.
My intentions are not to be disrespectful, my intentions are to discuss the solutions to these problems. But if you found anything I wrote disrespectfully, please point it out.
Just want to let you know that I’m suspicious of your claimed history. At best, you moved away when you were little, so you are just as uninformed as most Americans. There are minorities in Colombia and they are treated like an underclass. I’ve been to one of the “peace communities” mentioned, I didn’t just google this and post it randomly.
I never claimed that any country was perfect, especially Columbia which is rampant with corruption at all levels. The point I attempted to communicate was that in Latin America the slavery issue, though it is not forgotten, it is not brought up. Again if you found something I wrote in error please point it out.
But let’s continue on this topic; if highly corrupt countries in Central and South America can move on, why is it so hard that a country such as ours cannot? It is simple, ‘the powers to be’ want the Black community to see themselves as victims, vs victors, and this is because of political interest and financial support. Allow me to give you an example which we can compare with. Due to business ventures, I live for many years in Little Havana - Miami, which has a large Cuban exile community. Their political handlers broadcast daily to the exile community on Radio Mambi, reminding them every day how Pre Castro life was better, how their life is now miserable, life in Cuba is miserable, and Fidel and company are living ‘high on the hog’ off the backs of the oppressed. It always ends with a call for financial support. The poor refugee is bombarded daily with the message of despair and hopelessness, along with the subtle message that his hope lies in the Cuban exile organizations. These organizations especially the Cuban American Natl. Foundation controlled the exile community. The community votes as a block directed by the CANF; to the point that politicians came to Mia to kiss up to the CANF in order to have the block vote for them. They would put the word out and the exile community would show up and protest, and many of them did not know what they were protesting about. When they showed up they were handed signs, told where to stand and what to say. Note, the CANF was responsible for the Elian Gonzalez mess. Here is where the Cuban and Black community part ways. The CANF has control of the refugee born in Cuba, and the Cubans born in America careless about the past and strive for the future. They see the control and abuse of the exile community by these organizations and refuse to support or listen to them. This contrasts with the Black community which has been reminded since the end of Jim Crow that they are victims. They should drop the victim mentality, and strive to grab hold of what rightfully belongs to them.
The story of you in Queens does not justify racism and is not evidence of the existence of reverse racism. Instead, it’s where racism comes from. You were mistreated as a child, and that has shaped your view of people. You’ve seen mean people who were friends based on skin color, for whatever reason, but you assigned the traits of those handfuls of people to all people with that skin color. That’s on you, not the millions of people who didn’t live in Queens at the time you were there.
Question= are you crediting the same amount of grace to the Eastern Europeans that referred to me as N….? If it good enough for one it should be good enough for the other. As to ‘reverse racism’ which is a poor excuse for what it is racism I and everyone I grew up with in Queens experienced it. I had the pleasure of been called hurtful names by organized Black movements such as the Nation of Islam and my favorite The Five Percent Nation a splinter of NOI which taught and preached that the white man was the devil himself, blacks where the chosen race and the systematic beating of whites was not encouraged but it was never frowned upon. They actually had a call to battle [allah u Akbar = Allah is Great]. When a Five Percenter heard these words it was not a message of praise but a call to fight. They would all run to the location ready to fight and hurt anyone that stood in their way. Also, membership to the Five Percent Nation excluded anyone who was white. Organized religion of prejudice and privilege. Anyone who was white, growing up in NYC, and the tri-state area had to deal with this.
Now move on to Mia where I worked in health care at the county hospital. There were two clicks that ran the hospital, Black and Filipino. Realized real quick that taking a neutral position was detrimental. Why? The Filipinos where a force to reckon with, but they minded their business. The blacks on the other hand were very different. They hold the upper management positions and manage and delegated unfairly based on race. None Blacks or Filipino’s don’t last long in that hospital, either fired or quite.
But let’s continue, I have a biracial daughter, can pass for Black as much as Spanish. During the past two weeks, she has been told by her black friends that she is not a real Black because of her parents and her address. The term they use is ‘wigger’.
Suggestion = walk in someone’s shoes before you make such comments.
This just shows that you are aren’t paying attention at all.
Paying attention to what? Did you fail to read the next sentence that states we are all the same color but a different shade? Seems you are not paying attention.
It is illegal to discriminate. Look it up.
We call this a red herring. The subject is possessing prejudice feelings not manifesting them in acts of discrimination. Morals and ethics 101. Laws are based on what a community deems moral or immoral. To take the moral position is to take the higher ground vs quoting the law. Law falls under ‘thou shall not’, the moral high ground brings in the ‘ought’. If it is morally right to treat everyone based on the depth character vs the color of their skin then that is what we ‘ought’ to do.
And you don’t see a contradiction here? That father has some twisted prejudice, but it’s still prejudice.
There is no contradiction there. The father sees black because that is what is flaunted in front of him. African first American second. Vs Cuban only. From personal experience again. Living in NYC one was always reminded by the black community who one was walking near, or close to bumping into. “Be careful that’s a black baby, be careful that a black woman, you are walking on a black street, these are black projects, you are in a black business, etc.
It’s called freedom of speech.
Red herring = the topic is not freedom of speech but tribalism in the US.
And then you go on to list everything that Sharpton has been talking about of 40 years. We agree on the solutions T. How about we work together on them instead of talking some kids from Queens?
I know Sharpton form back in the day when he was local only. He has been preaching the same thing for forty years with no results, and I doubt he wants results. In my opinion, he is the black version of Radio Mambi. As to a kid from Queens, I guess that does not matter, I should suck it up and move on. I did, so why doesn’t everyone else? The top of the list. Education = address the illiteracy rate amongst blacks [which is appalling], absentee fathers, households with multiple fathers, single mothers raising children, black on black murder, drug addiction rate, overdose rate, lack of awareness of social issues, voter registration, equal opportunity [not equal results], appalling health care, infancy death rate, mortality rate, and their own prejudice. These are the real issues that are destroying the Black community.
If these issues are dealt with life in America for Blacks would improve greatly, and in this mix, prejudice, and police injustice would not only be addressed but solve.
Theodore Roosevelt once said. ‘An uneducated criminal will steal what he can carry from the freight car, an educated criminal will steal the railroad.’ Moral = you can achieve far more with education than without.
His alleged killer is in custody without bail. What is there to protest? I really don’t understand the question. We have laws about killing people and they are enforced. When that happens, when justice proceeds as it should, there is nothing to protest. We protest when someone is killed in broad daylight and there are no consequences for the killer.
Consistency is key. Why not apply this to Floyd and Chauvin?
