A culling as a solution

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But that doesn’t really address my question.

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We all feel some guilt and remorse, at least those of us who aren’t sociopaths. Some of us work to get people to change their ways, but as you can see on other threads we face stubborn people who are more interested in business as usual than remedial action. Wiping out human civilization will not solve these problems, it will just change the dynamics.

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We all feel some guilt and remorse, at least those of us who aren't sociopaths. Some of us work to get people to change their ways, but as you can see on other threads we face stubborn people who are more interested in business as usual than remedial action. Wiping out human civilization will not solve these problems, it will just change the dynamics.
Some people say that extinction rate needs to be solved, that we are responsible, and that the only way for that to take place is for us to become extinct. To preserve life we must all die. Of course the previous five extinctions before us would beg to differ. If an asteroid came barreling at earth and wiped everything out, it would sort of make the whole thing pointless. We are just one out of five other events. Thing is we can do something about it. I'm still having trouble seeing how killing us wouldn't solve anything. Also with the guilt.
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We all feel some guilt and remorse, at least those of us who aren't sociopaths. Some of us work to get people to change their ways, but as you can see on other threads we face stubborn people who are more interested in business as usual than remedial action. Wiping out human civilization will not solve these problems, it will just change the dynamics.
Some people say that extinction rate needs to be solved, that we are responsible, and that the only way for that to take place is for us to become extinct. To preserve life we must all die. Of course the previous five extinctions before us would beg to differ. If an asteroid came barreling at earth and wiped everything out, it would sort of make the whole thing pointless. We are just one out of five other events. Thing is we can do something about it. I'm still having trouble seeing how killing us wouldn't solve anything. Also with the guilt. The guilt is something you're born with. Much of religion, going back to pagan rituals, shows us that is something we have dealt with for a long time. We killed animals for food, but saw they had feelings, so we honored them with rituals. That's not something you can fix. If you didn't have that guilt, then we really would destroy the world for our own short term purposes. What is it that you are guilty about? Killing things for food? Wild animals do that all the time. Should we first kill all predatory animals before we all "drink the Kool-aid" and kill ourselves? Destruction is part of creation. Welcome to being alive.
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I’m guessing the guilt comes from the rising extinction rate and the overall negative effect that we have on everything around us, living at the expense of our environment.

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Culling or whatever you’d want to call it would require someone or some group to be in charge of the culling. Would you like to live in a society that culls its population? Who would you like to make the deciision as to who gets culled? Hitler tried that.

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Culling or whatever you'd want to call it would require someone or some group to be in charge of the culling. Would you like to live in a society that culls its population? Who would you like to make the deciision as to who gets culled? Hitler tried that.
It doesn't matter what I want. It matters about the guilt of living at the expense of other lifeforms
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Culling or whatever you'd want to call it would require someone or some group to be in charge of the culling. Would you like to live in a society that culls its population? Who would you like to make the deciision as to who gets culled? Hitler tried that.
It doesn't matter what I want. It matters about the guilt of living at the expense of other lifeforms Of course it matters what you want. People who want to cull others depend on you thinking it doesn't matter what you want. You wanting to not hurt the planet is you wanting something. You wanting to solve humans hurting the planet by culling is you wanting something. So, here's an idea, want something that is both good for humans and good for the planet.
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Why shoos someone want that? Why not do what’s better for the planet? It doesn’t matter what I want, apparently what matters is the hundreds of others going extinct by our hands.

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Why shoos someone want that? Why not do what's better for the planet? It doesn't matter what I want, apparently what matters is the hundreds of others going extinct by our hands.
You can want whatever you want. I just gave my idea, my opinion. I've already given you reasons for my opinion. You just keep repeating your opinion and asking why you have it.
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Why shoos someone want that? Why not do what's better for the planet? It doesn't matter what I want, apparently what matters is the hundreds of others going extinct by our hands.
Why would you think that. It's not like society is doing anything of substance to turn that around. I think you're good at the game of creating your own custom fitted Straw Men to burn down.
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We all feel some guilt and remorse, at least those of us who aren't sociopaths. Some of us work to get people to change their ways, but as you can see on other threads we face stubborn people who are more interested in business as usual than remedial action. Wiping out human civilization will not solve these problems, it will just change the dynamics.
Some people say that extinction rate needs to be solved, that we are responsible, and that the only way for that to take place is for us to become extinct. To preserve life we must all die. Of course the previous five extinctions before us would beg to differ. If an asteroid came barreling at earth and wiped everything out, it would sort of make the whole thing pointless. We are just one out of five other events. Thing is we can do something about it. I'm still having trouble seeing how killing us wouldn't solve anything. Also with the guilt. I'll hand it too you, belly-button gazing at it's best Titano. Although, I suspect you are playing a game here, and haven't shared a sincere thought in this entire thread.
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We all feel some guilt and remorse, at least those of us who aren't sociopaths. Some of us work to get people to change their ways, but as you can see on other threads we face stubborn people who are more interested in business as usual than remedial action. Wiping out human civilization will not solve these problems, it will just change the dynamics.
Some people say that extinction rate needs to be solved, that we are responsible, and that the only way for that to take place is for us to become extinct. To preserve life we must all die. Of course the previous five extinctions before us would beg to differ. If an asteroid came barreling at earth and wiped everything out, it would sort of make the whole thing pointless. We are just one out of five other events. Thing is we can do something about it. I'm still having trouble seeing how killing us wouldn't solve anything. Also with the guilt. I'll hand it too you, belly-button gazing at it's best Titano. Although, I suspect you are playing a game here, and haven't shared a sincere thought in this entire thread. And which humans should we cull from the earth's population? Riddle me that one.
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Why shoos someone want that? Why not do what's better for the planet? It doesn't matter what I want, apparently what matters is the hundreds of others going extinct by our hands.
You can want whatever you want. I just gave my idea, my opinion. I've already given you reasons for my opinion. You just keep repeating your opinion and asking why you have it. It's not mine. It's others and I have a hard time dealing with it.
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We all feel some guilt and remorse, at least those of us who aren't sociopaths. Some of us work to get people to change their ways, but as you can see on other threads we face stubborn people who are more interested in business as usual than remedial action. Wiping out human civilization will not solve these problems, it will just change the dynamics.
Some people say that extinction rate needs to be solved, that we are responsible, and that the only way for that to take place is for us to become extinct. To preserve life we must all die. Of course the previous five extinctions before us would beg to differ. If an asteroid came barreling at earth and wiped everything out, it would sort of make the whole thing pointless. We are just one out of five other events. Thing is we can do something about it. I'm still having trouble seeing how killing us wouldn't solve anything. Also with the guilt. I'll hand it too you, belly-button gazing at it's best Titano. Although, I suspect you are playing a game here, and haven't shared a sincere thought in this entire thread. And which humans should we cull from the earth's population? Riddle me that one. I'm not talking about which ones. I'm saying about dealing with how humans are responsible for an accelerating extinction rate and how the world might be better off without us. Dealing with the guilt about how your existence is nothing but a drain on everything around you and how the impact is negative overall.
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Why shoos someone want that? Why not do what's better for the planet? It doesn't matter what I want, apparently what matters is the hundreds of others going extinct by our hands.
You can want whatever you want. I just gave my idea, my opinion. I've already given you reasons for my opinion. You just keep repeating your opinion and asking why you have it. It's not mine. It's others and I have a hard time dealing with it. Hitler tried to cull Jews from the human population, or at least from the German Reich. Fundamental Islamists want to cull apostates and infidels from the human population. I have a hard time dealing with that. Now do you understand the implications of what is proposed here?
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It’s not the same thing, this is about the surivival of a planet and it’s life. It’s not the same as knowing your existence is a blight on the world.

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It's not the same thing, this is about the surivival of a planet and it's life. It's not the same as knowing your existence is a blight on the world.
No, our existence only threatens the existence of other large mammals, including humans. The earth itself has been through much worse than mankind. This little clip by George Carlin puts our relationship to the planet in proper perspective. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W33HRc1A6c
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Why shoos someone want that? Why not do what's better for the planet? It doesn't matter what I want, apparently what matters is the hundreds of others going extinct by our hands.
You can want whatever you want. I just gave my idea, my opinion. I've already given you reasons for my opinion. You just keep repeating your opinion and asking why you have it. It's not mine. It's others and I have a hard time dealing with it. And statements like that are why people suspect you are insincere. I can't tell what your true feelings or thoughts are or if you are asking these questions for you, about someone else, or hypothetically or just because you're bored.
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Why shoos someone want that? Why not do what's better for the planet? It doesn't matter what I want, apparently what matters is the hundreds of others going extinct by our hands.
You can want whatever you want. I just gave my idea, my opinion. I've already given you reasons for my opinion. You just keep repeating your opinion and asking why you have it. It's not mine. It's others and I have a hard time dealing with it. And statements like that are why people suspect you are insincere. I can't tell what your true feelings or thoughts are or if you are asking these questions for you, about someone else, or hypothetically or just because you're bored. It's for my own sanity