I don’t know what you mean by this
Ruled out walking, no problem.
Yep, they are probably driving by, also agree there.
This is the only time I’ve heard the speed and time being mentioned. Where did that come from? Not that it matters.
It took me a few minutes to figure out what you were calculating. You are assuming the geolocation is accurate and that you’ve determined they really visited the offices and boxes. But that’s what the study is trying to prove, you can’t assume that. You say the data could be up to 6 ½ feet off, you don’t get to pick the highest accuracy.
They are public places, and people are passing by them all the time. The data would have many people doing that. In fact, that’s what was found, people being in the vicinity of these locations. But that’s not what they say they proved. They say they proved exact location and activity, data that they just don’t have.
So, Compound odds works against you? Say it’s 1 in a 1,000 that someone actually went to the non-profit and 1 in a 1,000 that they actually went to the ballot box. Multiplying them comes to 1 in a million. Go ahead and lower the odds, but then keep adding ballot boxes, because if you don’t have multiple boxes or multiple visits, they aren’t mules, are they?
And that is why it is not actual news. It’s entertainment, as my husband calls it. BTW, the election was not stolen, but the dotard did attempt to have the government overthrown.
You have it backwards. It’s the Repugs looking for someone to blame, as well as put on a show, and they play the blame game well. The evidence for that is the dotard.
The Repugs do a very good job of that. The Dems have gotten us out a great depression (FDR), a great recession (President Obama), and they will again with President Biden. They generally do and it’s the Repugs who put us in the recessions. U.S. history shows this very well.
The Repugs will. They always have and again, U.S. history shows this very well. Nixon, a Repug, screwed the U.S., but at least he knew when to quit, while the Dotard does not. However, Nixon left a lot of his crap within our government, thus why you see the Repugs do the crap they are doing today- most of it illegal.
You just described the Repugs in a nutshell.
Worth a mention.
Tell me why it is Ok to do a pony show in congress for Jan 6th and not look at the election fraud. Not only not look at election fraud. But to deny even looking at the facts. Looks like a cover up. We need to have a commission formed to look into what went on. And what is the reason the phony show is going on in DC right now. I think part of the problem is the Democrats are unable to campaign. When ask questions, They only have lies for answers and the public is catching on. Definitely got the cart before the horse. If the election was stolen, Then the Jan 6th was most likely orchestrated to help hide the coup. Best to stand back and look at the big picture. The 2000 Mules claims it is possible that all five states they look at were flipped to Biden by fraud. This is something you just can’t make up the evidence to. Kind of the way the political parties operate in America. We are basically at war in Ukraine and never got down to the reasons that started the problems in Ukraine in the first place. Same with Covid-19. Was the lab involved? People have got to stop being so stupid and start picking good people to go to DC.
The history is already out. the poor improved and their standard of living and income moved up during Trump. Those facts are history. Can’t change history, the numbers are there. The recession is a Biden creation caused by trying to force the Green Deal on America.
What is it you don’t understand about how those facts have been investigated, by Republicans, by Trump appointed people? January 6th is what came after all of those investigations, all of them finding only isolated cases of fraud, and the President still tried to claim he won, to the point of whipping up a rally that led to a disruption of government.
This is getting tiresome Mike. You need to stop asking the same questions, and not answering our questions.
- It’s not a pony show and 2. there was no election fraud.
The facts are there was no election fraud. That is a conspiracy theory.
Conspiracy theory
The dotard committed a federal felony. As a dotard supporter, you have been thoroughly brainwashed.
I don’t know. I think we all did a very good job on the phone banks and going door to door for President Obama, despite the threats to our lives. We made history. Not only that, we managed to get President Biden into office. BTW, you are talking to a person who worked on the Obama campaign, going door to door and phone banking. I’m proud of that too. We did a damn good job, considering the final results.
The dotard told more lies than any other politician and you sucked them up hook, line, and sinker. Your man is a use car salesman, selling you lemons held together with rubber bands and duct tape.
The only attempted coup on Jan. 6th was the dotard’s. You really need to listen to the hearing, hear the dotard’s speech, which encouraged the coup.
Conspiracy theory and conspiracy only.
Yes you can. You very well can. Just weave the story and you have a made for TV drama.
I’m not going to argue this one with you.
We did. President Biden is not a criminal, like the dotard is. President Biden has not committed a federal felony, like the dotard has.
No they did not. Things got a whole lot worse under the dotard and we felt it. I don’t know what you call improvement, but that was NOT it.
It is history that things got better under FDR, LBJ, Clinton, Obama, and other dems, but got worse under Nixon and other Repugs.
Again, you’ve been brainwashed by the dotard. It was the dotard who caused the most of the troubles in the U.S., but you’re too brainwashed to realize that. You bought the used car salesman’s car. Sorry, but you’ve been duped, BIG TIME.
He’s so in love with the dotard that he’s been brainwashed, like a religious cult brainwashing. You won’t get through to him unless you know how to deprogram people from a religious cult.
Organized crime is what 2000 Mules is talking about. Judicial Watch has been suing states for a decade now. Trying to force the states to follow the laws and clean the voter lists. This voter fraud most likely has been going on at a smaller scale for years. Covid-19 opened the door for changing voting laws that allowed the existing fraud system to operate, if managed correctly, at a scale that would tip the scales for elections. Even the presidential election.
But that would be totally impossible to do for a couple of reasons. One is the money. Something on this scale would cost tens of millions or even hundreds of millions. We know the Mules were paid $10 per vote. For a million votes. $10 million. The Mules would be the least paid. Better figure from $200 to $400 per vote. So, this should require $400M for a presidential flip. That’s why it is impossible to happen. How do you get $400M? It turns out the Democrats got hundreds of millions going to non-profits to help get the voting locations ready for Covid-19. Of which on a very small percentage. I am hearing about 3% was used for Covid-19. Some of the drop off voting boxes were put up by the non-profits. The non-profits got donated funds. Facebook Mark Zuckerberg donated $419M to non-profits for remote voting. All added up is close to a billion dollar.
That is what I am talking about when I say we need to follow the Mule money. This isn’t going to happen overnight. What we need is to start sending Mules to prison. Then informers will panic and want to deal. I always talk about the swamp in DC. I don’t think we can clean the swamp in DC without cleaning the up at the state levels first.
Pinging (tracking)
Phone companies charge police to surveille customers location.
T-Mobile charged $30 per day, which comes to $900 per month of tracking.
AT&T charged a monthly service fee of $100 and an additional $25 per day the service is utilized, which comes to $850 per 30 days of tracking, according to bills reviewed by the Mercury.
Verizon calls the service “periodic location updates,” charging $5 per day on top of a monthly service fee of $100, which comes to $200 per 30 days of tracking.
Sprint offered the cheapest prices to report locations back to law enforcement, charging a flat fee of $100 per month.
Police provide the phone number. This tracking data is used in court.
True to Vote didn’t have phone numbers. They had nothing but the GPS location of voting drop boxes. Therefore, they ordered the ping data for the dates and area they wanted to check out.
Ping data can differentiate a lot. For example, Google with the phone not being moved at all will ping location data 340 times in a 24-hour period. When using google maps it is constantly pinging. Maps will show on your phone how fast you are driving. And where your vehicle is located on the road in real time.
Lots of applications that can vary on how many times ping tracking takes place.
No, not assuming. First thing I did was update myself on cell phone tracking.
Sure, you do. Gregg can set the algorithm to keep adding pings to get the highest accuracy. Land surveying for example: Baseline measurements are one part per million, meaning that a 30 kilometer distance (18.64 miles) can be measured with about 30 mm (just over an inch) of uncertainty. The surveyors just use more GPS locations for triangulation. Land surveyors have handheld GPS equipment that look like large smartphones for surveying locations. Everything needs tolerances. 6 ½ feet to the box itself. If someone is there within 6 ½ feet. They are at the box. Remember they have to do this to 10 drop boxes and have gone to at least 5 non-profits.
Yes, the data does. Let’s say one voting drop box has 1,200 people walk by the box. Now, we only want the ones that stop and drop off ballots and then take a picture of the box. So, let’s say that would take one minute. Of the 1,200 people that walked by the data shows only 400 people stopped at the box for one minute or more. Next, we ask the computer to only give us the cell phones from those 400 people that also stop at nine other drop boxes for one minute or more within a two-hour period and have been to at least 5 non-profit locations. Now we have 115 cell phones (Mules). Next, we match the box drop time with the box surveillance video and we see the person dropping off 5 to 20 ballots each time at 28 different voting drop boxes.
Note, the total ballots dropped off from Mules in this one area may be over 100,000 ballots. Some of the ballots may be harvested. These areas have refused to clean up their voting roll. And may have a million or more signed up voters from people no longer living there. In the areas checked out by 2000 Mules. If each mule dropped off 1,000 ballots. Then 2M ballots just from these areas could be add to the vote count. One would think that they would not drop off more than needed. Two states were flipped on the last night by 18,000 votes.
Have you watched the documentary? Why would 73% of the Democrats who watch 2000 Mules recommend to people to watch the documentary?
For a cell phone to go to a non-profit and stop there. Then go to 5 drop boxes and stop at each one and not be a mule is 5,000,000,000 to 1. If you add 4 more non-profits and 23 more drop boxes. Astronomical odds. This is just not what people walking down the street do. Many of the drop boxes are away from the street. People do not just happen to go to non-profits and then go to ten or more drop boxes and stop at each one for no reason.
Yes, my religious cult is freedom. Mess with the freedom of my country and people. Don’t expect me not to get up and fight.
No, it’s the dotard and all about the dotard, not freedom. You follow him and you won’t have freedom. You’ll have a dictator, but you insist on not messing with that. You really want a nation with a dictator, no people of colour, control of women and their bodies, inflation, and greedy corporation making the laws in this country. IMHO, that is not freedom. I do not want to follow a dictator who has committed federal felony and crimes against humanity.
You do not know that. And it’s pretty hard to believe that someone would take that, or even hundreds more, and then not one of them go get thousands from a newspaper for blowing that story wide open.
I know what pinging is, I just had not heard it used in the 2000 Mules story. It looks like they just followed where they went, not looking at if they stopped at the locations.
But you aren’t taking account that the tracking is not accurate down to the scale needed to prove where these people were.
But that’s not the data he has. He has the data of people walking around with regular devices in their pockets. He can’t “add pings” to that.
More data that you don’t have. You can’t just come on this forum and make up stuff.
But you don’t have the data that shows that they stopped there. That is the critical bit of information that you are making up. I’m betting the data says the opposite, that they were near these locations. None of your links, or my research has stated otherwise.
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Just want to add a note, that this topic not closed because we are not listening to the facts about the topic. That is not the mission of CFI. The facts have been presented and this conversation has turned to the politics, and political leanings of the participants. Yesterday I found this article, by a self-described conservative, who gives a thorough review.
On the subject of being heard;
Phillips actually testified before the Pennsylvania state senate in March. During that testimony, he conceded that his group did not get any surveillance footage from Philadelphia despite claiming in the movie they have proven that more than 1,100 mules operated there.
And on governments investigating the data presented in the film:
Georgia Secretary of State had already investigated one of the men they show video of. He was dropping his family’s ballots. Totally legal. Others in the film were also investigated.
Or on the eyewitnesses, actually just one:
The witness is unidentified and has no specific information