No but Deanna Troi did say that Earth was “a primitive culture”. She says it about the 2:10 mark, but I get a kick out of this scene so I post the whole scene and not just where she states that Earth is a primitive culture.
Watched this again last night, it’s really my favorite of the STNG movies. She actually says what you said in that scene, great scene…Timeline, we don’t have time for time. BUT - 
she also does say Too Primitive in a later scene, i think the one where Jordie shows Cochrane the Enterprise in orbit using his telescope. What a great scene…" and you’re all astronauts, on some kind of star trek". Man I wish we could time-scootch a couple hundred years into the future.
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Mine too. My #1 Fave use to be Voyage Home, but then First Contact became my #1 and Voyage Home #2. “You told him about the statue?”
For me it’s something what don’t exist. I’ve saw a video on YouTube where the dude told where the “flying saucers” came from, and I laughed my ass off. It turned out that the very definition of “flying saucers” was a journalist’s mistake.
Metal-rich stars are less suitable for the evolution of life on their planets
Our results show that from a few percent of O2 upward and for a variety of stellar properties the surface UV exposure on Earth-like planets in habitable zones is likely to sustain the development of land plants that are essential for the further evolution of complex life. It includes a stable oxidation capacity of the atmosphere, which controls greenhouse gases such as CH4, contributing to favourable temperature conditions, while removing hazardous gases that would otherwise reach toxic levels.
Paradoxically, whereas stars with higher metallicity, which have appeared later in the history of the Universe, emit less UV radiation, in oxygenated planetary atmospheres the associated stellar radiative spectrum allows less O3 formation, which enhances UV penetration, making the conditions on planets orbiting these stars less friendly for the biosphere on land (except for 5300 K metal-rich stars and low O2 atmospheres). The relatively low UV emission from the high-metallicity stars can also be a hurdle for the origin of first life on planets with anoxic atmospheres.
Metal-rich stars are less suitable for the evolution of life on their planets | Nature Communications
… did say that Earth was “a primitive culture”.
That conceit seems rather disingenuous - we can split atoms for bombs and boilers, we have sent space craft out beyond our Solar Systems, we can observe the universe back to the dawn of this Cosmos. We can splice DNA and manipulate life and bodies to an extent that is beyond miraculous.
Calling all that technical mastery primate is basically demanding that there are as many new layers of physical reality waiting to be discovered and manipulated, (as when Aristotle was pronouncing what reality was for the intelligentsia of his age and centuries to come), but that simply isn’t the case.
Mysteries of Modern Physics by Sean Carroll
Jan 29, 2020 - Darwin College Lecture Series
Sean Carroll, 10:45. . . these are the particles that make up you and this table and me and this laptop and really everything that you have ever seen with your eyes touched with your fingers smelled with your nose in your life.
Furthermore we know how they interact with each other and even better than that, the most i****mpressive fact is that there will not be a discovery tomorrow or next century or a million years from now which says you know what there was another particle or another force that we didn’t know about but now we realize plays a crucial role in our everyday life.
As far as our everyday life is concerned by which I really mean what you can see with your eyes touch with your hands etc we’re done finding the underlying ingredients. That is an enormous achievement in human history one that does not get enough credit, because of course as soon as we do it we go on to the next thing.
Physics is not done. I’m not saying that physics is done, but physics has understood certain things and those things include everything you encounter in your everyday life - unless you’re a professional experimental physicist or unless you’re looking of course outside our everyday life at the universe and other places where we don’t know what’s going on. …
If you want to discuss human primitiveness, lets discuss our human lack of wisdom, and our pretty near total self-absorption, with it’s attendant disregard for anything that lies outside of direct personal interest ?
When it come to wisdom, our 21st Century version of humanity, is probably more primitive than our human hunter gather ancestors.
As for all the UFO hoopla, big hearing down in Washington a few weeks back.
What was new?
… More grainy images of somethings.
… More witnesses that saw something they can’t explain.
… More insinuations that aliens and space craft are being held in a super-duper-ultra-secret-undisclosed location, (Area 51 merely being a decoy) -
But, still not a shred of actually physical evidence provided - and I can’t help thinking there’s a simple logical reason, there’s nothing there to share.
I’m told it’s all because of a cloak of secrecy, that everyone, that knows anything, has agreed to ( because we the public simply aren’t ready to process the news ). So they are protecting us.
No need to ask about simple human nature,
that relentless need to share gossip.
See a secret, hold a secret, and it starts burning inside, we are social creatures, we want to impress each other, we like exciting news and perplexing challenges, it’s what we do. Who doesn’t want to be the first one on the block to share earth shattering news.
The chances that actual aliens bodies, or space craft material is being kept stored and studied somewhere, and being kept a tight lipped secret are about as good as thinking the USA’s A-bomb secrets were going to stay secret. Seems to me, there will always be a Klaus Fuchs and pals to share the news. Especially regarding something as big as actual visitors from outer space.
Of course, there’s also the confusion between irresistible Life itself, that is biology and all that, making it seem that life is almost inevitable, when conditions are right - and the hundreds of millions of years of “just-right” conditions required to nurture life into the complex evolved thinking machines that we humans are.
I don’t believe that “just right” conditions are necessarily all that “right” and there is plenty of room for being just “right enough”.
The very variety of life is witness to the infinite variety of species and adaptations to some very different environments.
Some life requires a “not right” environment where nothing else can live.
It’s More than just Rotten Eggs, It’s the Sulfur Cycle!
The sulfur cycle is made up of 4 steps: mineralization, oxidation, reduction and incorporation. Sulfur is one of the main constituents of many proteins, vitamins and hormones. Sulfur is often found in oxidation states that can range from Sulfates to In the soil environment, sulfur can be produced in either an organic or inorganic form.
The sulfur cycle contains both atmospheric and terrestrial processes. In the inside of the terrestrial portion, the cycle begins with the weathering of rocks, which is what releases the stored sulfur. It is imperative to learn about how exactly the sulfur undergoes mineralization in the sulfur cycle. For this case, sulfur is mainly cycled throughout the soil environment and sea water in the marine environment.
Oxidation is the process of losing an electron from an element or compound. In the sulfur cycle there is a sulfide oxidation and a sulfur oxidation, each of these processes are performed by microbes in anaerobic environments such as a hotspring. Sulfate reduction is a process carried out by anaerobic microbes which transforms sulfate into sulfide. These microbes are a diverse and varied group both genetically and physiologically, and are typically found in aquatic environments, where they act as decomposers.
However, they are also present in great numbers within sulfur springs, such as those in Yellowstone, where sulfate is abundant and continually replenished. Incorporation involves the process of changing sulfide into organic compounds. This can include metal-containing derivatives. Microorganisms have the ability to immobilize sulfur compounds, which ultimately results in subsequent incorporation of these sulfur compounds into the organic form of sulfur… The sulfur cycle is important because of how abundant it is in our environment. Take a look at our interactive coggle to learn about each of these parts more in depth.
I guess it comes down to what “just” means, you are showing me an example from Earth. Talk about the laboratory made for life.
Even deep below the surface,
Strange life forms found deep in a mine point to vast ‘underground Galapagos’
The rock-eating, sulfur-breathing microbes have scientists wondering what other strange creatures dwell deep below Earth’s surface.
Still we’re on Earth where oceans seems to percolate and move amazingly deep into the crust.
It’s a marvelous place we live on. One of a kind. 
Yes. According to Robert Hazen, the Earth’s laboratory alone has performed some
2 trillion, quadrillion, quadrillion, quadrillion chemical experiments during its lifetime.
Let alone all the chemistry that is performed throughout the Universe, starting in interstellar clouds.
Interstellar Medium and Molecular Clouds
Interstellar space — the region between stars inside a galaxy — is home to clouds of gas and dust. This interstellar medium contains primordial leftovers from the formation of the galaxy, detritus from stars, and the raw ingredients for future stars and planets. Studying the interstellar medium is essential for understanding the structure of the galaxy and the life cycle of stars.
https://pweb.cfa.harvard.edu/research/topic/interstellar-medium-and-molecular-clouds#
That’s just a little more than humans can perform in a lab… 
Yeah but the cosmos at large with all it’s weird stars and planets and black holes, still pales in complexity (if not mass), compared to what can happen upon a miracle planet such as Earth.
I dare say, biology can’t exist out in the conditions of the cosmos, only within certain planetary laboratories can conditions get modified and controlled in a way that is conducive to biology developing and evolving.
Not saying it’s impossible that other such places exists, I am saying we have yet to see a hint of one.
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Yeah but the cosmos at large with all it’s weird stars and planets and black holes, still pales in complexity (if not mass), compared to what can happen upon a miracle planet such as Earth.
What exactly is miraculous about the earth? All the chemicals that make up life on earth are abundant throughout the universe. Robert Hazen proposes that there is no reason why there should not be other life in the Universe.
I dare say, biology can’t exist out in the conditions of the cosmos, only within certain planetary laboratories can conditions get modified and controlled in a way that is conducive to biology developing and evolving.
Consider, the earth has performed 2 trillion, quadrillion, quadrillion, quadrillion
different chemical experiments. Have you considered how big that number is, compared to what we do in a laboratory?
I believe you may be looking at this from a human perspective, but that’s too exclusive What we can do in a lab has already been done somewhere in the Universe. Biochemistry does already happen in interstellar clouds from the prevailing radiation affecting the chemistry of cosmic dust.
For complex life, it seems that there is always an interactive solar/planetary system involved. Physical life requires a physical host, a dynamic environment (energy), and a certain number of chemicals and minerals (carbon) that lend themselves to the formation of biochemistry.
Not saying it’s impossible that other such places exist, I am saying we have yet to see a hint of one.
I don’t think that is a very reliable argument. You live in the woods that is teeming with life. How many species of life can you actually observe directly at any given moment?
Now apply this scenario to the Universe. The distances are so enormous that we might well be an ant in the desert, unable to see anything outside the cubic meter that surrounds it.
Hypothetical types of biochemistry
The possibility of life-forms being based on “alternative” biochemistries is the topic of an ongoing scientific discussion, informed by what is known about extraterrestrial environments and about the chemical behaviour of various elements and compounds. It is of interest in synthetic biology and is also a common subject in science fiction.
The element silicon has been much discussed as a hypothetical alternative to carbon. Silicon is in the same group as carbon on the periodic table and, like carbon, it is tetravalent. Hypothetical alternatives to water include ammonia, which, like water, is a polar molecule, and cosmically abundant; and non-polar hydrocarbon solvents such as methane and ethane, which are known to exist in liquid form on the surface of Titan.
Creating random biochemicals is one thing.
Creating a web of life is altogether something else.
Okay, conjectures.
Back to what we actually know:
Oh and there’s a huge difference between living slime and living complex organisms.
Not all that much. I believe there is a sliding scale of efficiency v. complexity.
And you are speaking of ~4.5 billion years of evolutionary processes.
But think of all the things all living things have in common.
This is why I am so enamored with microtubules.
ALL Eukaryotic life has MT (cytoskeleton) in common and if microtubules and their information carrying properties, are in fact the seat of consciousness then the actual emergence of conscious intelligence was merely a matter of time and raw materials.
Have I told you about my uncle? 
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It seems to me that objectively and mathematically, life is no more complicated at about every level of complexity and refinement in function, than a simple triangular fractal which can express itself in infinite variety of patterns and complexity.
Fractal
In mathematics, a fractal is a geometric shape containing detailed structure at arbitrarily small scales, usually having a fractal dimension strictly exceeding the topological dimension. Many fractals appear similar at various scales, as illustrated in successive magnifications of the Mandelbrot set.[1][2][3][4]
This exhibition of similar patterns at increasingly smaller scales is called self-similarity, also known as expanding symmetry or unfolding symmetry; if this replication is exactly the same at every scale, as in the Menger sponge, the shape is called affine self-similar.[5] Fractal geometry lies within the mathematical branch of measure theory. Fractal - Wikipedia
and
What are Fractals?
- Fractals: A fractal is a never-ending pattern. Fractals are infinitely complex patterns that are self-similar across different scales. They are created by repeating a simple process over and over in an ongoing feedback loop. Driven by recursion, fractals are images of dynamic systems – the pictures of Chaos. Geometrically, they exist in between our familiar dimensions. Fractal patterns are extremely familiar, since nature is full of fractals. For instance: trees, rivers, coastlines, mountains, clouds, seashells, hurricanes, etc.
What are Fractals? – Fractal Foundation
My thoughts of late, as in the last few days, thinking of evolution… IF there was another planet in another solar system with humanoid life on it, they’d be just as advance or less advance as we are and therefore wouldn’t get out of their solar system or off their planet OR they’d be so far advanced they’d have nothing to do with us, even looking at us as primitive creatures. That said, any planet would have to have the same or similar atmosphere to encourage evolution to the point we see humanoid life forms. So I’m not so sure there an alien UFO is possible currently or if they do exist, they aren’t really paying attention to us, seeing us no more than trilobites.
Some humans find trilobites endlessly fascinating. Not to be mistaken with tribbles. 
I don’t understand why an even more advanced civilization wouldn’t be endlessly fascinated in what’s unfolded here on Earth. We’ve scanned enough of the universe to know we are exceedingly rarely, with totally unique not being out of the question. After all our form is dictated by way more than simply Earth’s atmosphere, gravitational pull, even the arrangement and sizes of planets in our sour solar system have a profound impact of what could unfold upon Earth.
Write,
I find it striking that in what you’ve written, past couple days and in general, math, patterns, information, hold center stage, so sterile, clinical and distant from the slimly to sublime biology that’s unfolding in time upon this particular rocky planet with it’s massive oceanic surface, as circumstances allow.
I’ve been told how offensive my summary of Abrahamic thinking, with its “self-absorbed and self-serving” is, and that it’s guaranteed to turn off readers - been chewing on that for a while,
because the problem is that it’s an observation based assessment and not some slap in the face moralistic insult. It’s how it is. Ignoring that tendency is where our problems begin.
We probably wouldn’t be here if not for those qualities. Problem is that life requires balance, and human self obsession has no place for balance, or granting equal rights to the living biosphere that created and sustains us - and we really hate looking at any of the down sides to our modern marvels, and expectations. Remember we’re the ones glorifying in the believing Too Much Is Never Enough and that Greed is Good. What is that, if not “self-absorbed and self-serving”
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Human Centrism - Abrahamic thinking - it’s all about us (self-absorbed, self-serving).
Earth Centrism - I am an evolved biological thinking machine - a product of Earth’s biology over time (evolution).
I completely agree when looking at this from a subjective standpoint.
My focus is on trying to present a purely objective perspective that is all-inclusive and applies to all patterns in the universe, but from a purely scientific standpoint.
Subjective evidence is completely dependent on the “frame of mind” , hence the Abrahamic mindset, but that only addresses human response to the available data.
As you well know, I stand in absolute atheist awe of the universal majesty, but that doesn’t explain reality, it explains my subjective interpretation and emotional involvement.
Reality itself has no emotional investment. It functions in accordance with deterministic precision in all possible ways from the violence and destruction of super-novas, to a pair of swans making love on a lake, and humans who have evolved to reach for understanding.
Humans are too primitive.
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