Right, it depends on the dangers present where you live.
Here in No Idaho, you go out in the woods at your peril and yes, you will carry a gun for self defense against wolves, cougars, bears, and an occasional poacher who may not want to discovered.
I don’t hate any of these predators, but without a defensive weapon you may just end up for some wild animal’s dinner.
I don’t advocate killing wildlife. Never been hunting, but always carried a gun and survival kit.
Fortunately , I have never needed to defend myself.
Being a realist does not make one a war monger .
It is truly amazing that in this country that has more guns in civilian hands than the armies of most countries, you should pick me for advocating war.
Are you claiming that I am trying to teach anyone to hate? And here you are, a moderator, teaching all to hate me, because I am the war monger? Maybe somebody should shut me up ? Is that what you are teaching the readers?
This is becoming much too personal, man. Stop your slander!
I don’t own an AR 15, that is a weapon of war, and I HATE WAR, not people or wildlife.
But I am a realist and can dispassionately contemplate my surroundings.
The world is a dangerous place and if you do not respects its dangers you will get hurt.
Please, don’t think for a moment that I am in your corner. You are a warmonger and I totally disprove of your attitude. I can do without your approval!
From the article.
For its part, Hamas must honour previous understandings about the staged release of Israeli hostages and cease its crude, last-minute haggling, especially about exactly how many Palestinian detainees, and which ones, are freed in return. Its priority should be alleviating the plight of Gaza’s civilians, not scoring points. Its demands that Israel agree a “permanent” end to the war at this stage were always unrealistic.
So the aggressor (war monger) can start a war and then gets to set “unrealistic” terms of peace?
Yeah, you do. My grandparents lived near nowhere Missouri near the Arkansas border, where their were wolves, even an occasional bear. He didn’t carry his gun everywhere. In fact, we walked the mile to his mailbox one day and suddenly he said softly, “Don’t move,” as he showed me a wolf observing us in the woods off the dirt road we walked. I actually stared the wolf in eyes. He was the one of the most awesome creatures I ever saw in my life, as my grandfather and I watched him. He finally moved on because we were no threat to him. If my grandfather had brought his gun with him, the wolf might have thought we were a threat. Now the copperheads, that was a different sounding, “Don’t move!” as I helped them pick green beans, and a hoe would come down and there’d be a dead beheaded copperhead at my feet. I never once ended up as dinner for any wild animal, not even the wolf, yet my grandfather didn’t always carry his gun. He lived off the land, but he didn’t kill just to kill. And yes, he did hunt too and he despised poachers. He never threatened a poacher with a gun though. Carrying a gun, even for so-called “survival” was not his thing. My grandparents went out to the garden, which was huge and not once did he have a gun with him and they lived out in the middle of nowhere. A kid, who mistook baby copperheads for fishing worms couldn’t be air vac out of there soon enough to save his life. Did you know baby copperheads have enough venom to kill a grown man? Real survival is learning how to live with the wildlife, not kill them to just kill them, because you believe their appearance means your death.
You’re not a realist. You don’t even know how to live off the land and with the environment. You’re a warmonger, who seems to think that even the appearance of a four legged relative means you’re going to be dinner if you don’t shoot them. That is ignorance of other animals.
I didn’t go looking for you, you keep speaking up.
I comment just like everyone. You are not a victim here.
Dont sell yourself short. You are a tremendous warmonger and defend israel to the very death of the Palestinians. She could use more people like you. Ruthless and no mercy. Cheers to you
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Yeah, you do. My grandparents lived near nowhere Missouri near the Arkansas border, where their were wolves, even an occasional bear. He didn’t carry his gun everywhere. In fact, we walked the mile to his mailbox one day and suddenly he said softly, “Don’t move,” as he showed me a wolf observing us in the woods off the dirt road we walked. I actually stared the wolf in eyes. He was the one of the most awesome creatures I ever saw in my life, as my grandfather and I watched him. He finally moved on because we were no threat to him. If my grandfather had brought his gun with him, the wolf might have thought we were a threat. Now the copperheads, that was a different sounding, “Don’t move!” as I helped them pick green beans, and a hoe would come down and there’d be a dead beheaded copperhead at my feet. I never once ended up as dinner for any wild animal, not even the wolf, yet my grandfather didn’t always carry his gun. He lived off the land, but he didn’t kill just to kill
Note that I never accused you or your dad of being a killer and war monger.
This is what you are doing to me!
I was writing a long response to your slanderous remarks, but decided it was not worth the effort. Your mind is made up and am not going to waste my time defending myself from your verbal attacks. A useless endeavor.
Reported for trolling.
Perhaps you may see it that way, but If I addressed you and mriana as you are describing me to the world , you’d moderate me for inappropriate language.
I do not accuse you of war mongering when you cite a fact of war.
Here is a sober discussion about the very same thing. Nobody is accusing anyone of warmongering.
You’ve been speaking to me that way for this entire conversation, accusing me of not caring about Israeli children and not understanding self-defense. I just wished you’d make the self-defense case, with something other than ancient history (sometimes not even accurate history).
I don’t know when the full episodes get put up, but if you want to know how to speak to the evils of Hamas and to the unreasonable of Israel, listen to Bernie Sanders on the 5/12/2024 broadcast. “America people don’t want to be complicit in the starvation of children”.
It was my grandfather, not my father.
You’re doing it to yourself.
I reject your “report for trolling”, because the same could be said of you and it only got you a revenge flag by someone. There was no reason to report the person you reported.
Well, your moral stance is admirable, but against reality it is hopelessly naive.
Dr Nils Hellstrom: “life must take life in the interest of life itself”
Is that war mongering?
And a little more starkly put by George Carlin
Life is sacred?
(warning, crude language)
Who are you addressing? If it’s me, I’ve lived almost 60 years with this moral stance and I’ll probably live at least another 40 years with it, given the longevity in my family, so I don’t have a clue as to what you are talking about. Can’t be that naive with such longevity. In fact, it’s probably what keeps my family alive for so long, besides genetics. Who knows.
And whoever said life was sacred? No one on this forum said it.
So are computers and phones, weapons of war. I bet you own several. Are you keying in on political issues instead of realistic issues? It is the person behind the weapons of war we need to worry about. Not the weapons. The only one I have heard that wants to take in Palestinians is Biden. That means you and I want to bring in Palestinians because Biden is our leader. The policy should be, that we don’t negotiate with terrorists. We should help Israel and put troops on the ground until we get our citizens back. What if it was your kids taken hostage?
Well , I am a quarter of a century older than you, so by that standard I am a little less naive than you.