This is catastrophic

Science and Technology
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Fears of sabotage as gas pours into Baltic from Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines.

“…British sources said they believed it may not be possible to determine what occurred with certainty…”

Paraphrase as “…They will never know it was us…”

Fears of sabotage as gas pours into Baltic from Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines

Seismologists detect spikes in undersea activity, possibly indicating explosions, amid three simultaneous leaks

Gas is pouring into the Baltic Sea from three separate leaks on the Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines amid claims by seismologists in Sweden and Denmark of two sharp spikes in undersea activity, possibly indicating explosions, and speculation about sabotage.

A seismograph on the Danish island of Bornholm, near where the leaks occurred, twice recorded spikes on Monday, the day on which the Nord Stream 1 and 2 gas pipelines underwent dramatic falls in pressure, the German geological research centre GFZ said.

“There are some indications that it is deliberate damage. You have to ask: Who would profit?” one European security source told Reuters.

Nord Stream AG, the pipeline operator, had on Monday morning reported an unexpected overnight drop of pressure from 105 to 7 bar in Nord Stream 2, which is filled with gas but was cancelled by Olaf Scholz, the German chancellor, shortly before Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

A further drop of pressure was reported on Monday afternoon in Nord Stream 1, which Russia shut down indefinitely at the start of September, initially saying it needed repairs.

Environmental NGOs said the leaks were likely to cause large-scale damage to the environment. “As soon as methane in gas form raises from the surface of the sea into the atmosphere, it will massively contribute to the greenhouse effect,” said Sascha Müller-Kraenner of the pressure group Environmental Action Germany.

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And how does that make you feel Otto?

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Yes I could see Putin ordering this

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Yeah the Russians destroyed thier own assets :joy::joy::joy::joy:
Genius idea!

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FF 0 environment 0 lose lose

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“But I think if we look at who would actually benefit from disturbances, more chaos on the gas market in Europe, I think there’s basically only one actor right now that actually benefits from more uncertainty, and that is Russia,” he said.

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Evidence USA has blown this up, thereby declaring war on germany

On September 27, the detachment of US Navy ships led by the amphibious assault ship USS Kearsarge announced the completion of work in the area of the alleged sabotage on gas pipelines. US ships completed their tasks in the Baltic Sea and were spotted heading to the Baltic Straits into the North Sea.

The group of US ships was spotted 30 kilometers from the site of the alleged sabotage on the Nord Stream-1 gas pipeline and 50 kilometers from the threads of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline.

http://southfront.org/us-ships-suspected-of-sabotage-attack-on-nord-stream-pipelines/

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They are bombing the crap out of “their own” cities in eastern Ukraine. So Yes I would bet they did it.

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Yeah why turn off the valves when you can bomb your pipeline​:joy::joy::joy::joy::joy:

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And you are officially a conspiracy theory believer.

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[quote=“ottozuts100, post:7, topic:9898, full:true”]
Evidence USA has blown this up, thereby declaring war on germany

On September 27, the detachment of US Navy ships led by the amphibious assault ship USS Kearsarge announced the completion of work in the area of the alleged sabotage on gas pipelines. US ships completed their tasks in the Baltic Sea and were spotted heading to the Baltic Straits into the North Sea.

The group of US ships was spotted 30 kilometers from the site of the alleged sabotage on the Nord Stream-1 gas pipeline and 50 kilometers from the threads of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline.

southfront. org/us-ships-suspected-of-sabotage-attack-on-nord-stream-pipelines/
Okay I read the article and the bottomline is:, well the bottom line of the article say it clearly:
The incidents on the pipelines raised a lot of suspicions.Meanwhile, the energy crisis in Europe is gaining momentum, and the situation is expected to worsen as winter approaches.

Then I noticed that the wacko patriot-MAGAish blogs is where this is spreading like wild fire.
Then I thought, well, if we did, then the Russians would be yelling bloody murder and A-bombs.

Wouldn’t they?

Why is Russia so silent?

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Southfront is known as a Russian organization, specialized in fake news.

[SouthFront - Wikipedia]

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Appreciate the info Morgan!

Maddy had priority over more net surfing on the topic.

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Ex polish foreign minister has thanked the USA. That was quick!!

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This only happened a day ago. It very well could be an accident. If it was sabotage though, the US or some other actor is most likely responsible. Those waters are near impossible for Russians to get into undetected with the constant NATO surveillance in the Baltic. Plus it doesn’t make economic sense for Russia to wreck expensive, hard to replace infrastructure when they can just shut off the supply – which they already have done.

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Good points. Not often I get to do this to you, :+1:t2:

We shall see.

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Its astonishing how quickly this is now out in the open

https://nitter.net/CraigMurrayOrg/status/1574891526169182210

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Honestly, you may have a point.

USA has the technological means to do it, Russia also.

USA did not want Stream I and II to be built. On the other side, USA don’t usually use terrorism. And German investments in the tubes are important. Nowadays, USA have no problem to sell their gas.

Russia has financed the tubes and is a big loser if the tubes are not usable anymore.

But specialists on French TV have explained:

  • that Russia has the technical means to damage the tubes. In fact the explosives can have been set weeks ago.
  • that the tubes can be repaired.
  • that Russia has cut the flow of gas under technical pretexts and that with this sabotage they don’t need any other pretext.
  • Russia benefits are political:
  1. it shows West that it can totally cut the flow of gas, with heavy consequences and it punish us for our support to Ukraine;
  2. it is a threat: it shows us that Russia can, at any time, cut the transatlantic connexions, internet and so !

About the Ukrainian post, i will believe it when a reliable source will have confirmed it.

Craig Murray is a known pro Russia-activist. He may be honest about that.

In fact, I don’t know who did it and why.

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[quote=“morgankane01, post:18, topic:9898”]

  • it shows West that it can totally cut the flow of gas, with heavy consequences and it punish us for our support to Ukraine;

Is this Russian territory? If not Russia cannot claim that its territory was invaded.

  • it is a threat: it shows us that Russia can, at any time, cut the transatlantic connexions, internet and so

Or it is a warning from the US that it can stop the flow of Russian oil at any time and stop Russia from financing its war with oil revenue.

Russia is in much greater financial trouble than the rest of the world and any interruption of revenue is catastrophic to the Russian aggression in Ukraine.

Remember that Russia interrupted (sabotaged) the transport of grain from Ukraine to the rest of the world. That was an act of world terrorism.

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It’s international waters and they’d only need a small boat and a couple divers.