The Democratic Party Online Discussion Forum. Why not?

Oh boy, you do like to move the goal posts don’t you?

I am not saying anything of the sort. I am saying that misinformation about almost everything by shrill voices like yours are the reason for Biden’s current low ratings.

I’ll never forget that McConnell promised to oppose Biden in EVERYTHING, regardless whether it is good for the Nation, such as a massive infrastructure program that will provide good paying jobs to millions of people.

p.s. Did you know that under Biden there have been more jobs created in the US in history, due to his economic stimulus to combat the effects of the COVID pandemic?

U.S. job growth in Biden’s first year tops 6.4 million

The economy created nearly as many jobs in President Joe Biden’s first year as were created in Donald Trump’s first three years combined.

Bring it on this misinformation of almost everything. Your list must be quite extensive so please share

Noooooo… I’ll share a list of Biden’s positive accomplishments , but you don’t want to hear about that, do you? Biden is trying to continue what Obama (one of great US presidents) started wirh Biden as his vice-president.
In spite of declared refusal by McConnell to cooperate on any matter, Biden has accomplished some very fine things in his FIRST YEAR in office, such as lifting some 40 million children out of poverty, by installing child support money for baby-sitting, so that parents are free to work.

I already answered that. You are trolling

Crumbs for the working class . All to ensure they go back to work in the capitalist system. Become useful. In the meantime million of kids are getting infected.

Is the following misinformation???

January 15 marked the end of monthly payments to families with children under the Child Tax Credit

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Crumbs for the working class . All to ensure they go back to work in the capitalist system. Become useful. In the meantime million of kids are getting infected.

And all that is the fault of Biden?

Millions of people refusing to get vaccinated in the exercise of “freedom to choose”. If you don’t want to get vaccinated (for free) and you get sick, don’t blame Biden. It’s your own stupidity, listening to the freedom from government riders.

Is the following misinformation???
January 15 marked the end of monthly payments to families with children under the Child Tax Cr

No it isn’t and it is perfectly understandable. It was a temporary assistance based on expectations of how long the pandemic would last.

If people refuse to cooperate with the scientific recommendations and refuse to get vaccinated , thereby prolonging the pandemic, Is Biden to blame for that?

People always want a scapegoat for their own stupid mistakes . Biden is in charge and the “far Right” factions are taking full advantage of this “war with an invisible enemy” that people are ignoring.

I have advocated for Martial law months ago, but that is not Biden’s style. He is not a dictator and believes in the democratic process and has done a lot to help the working class who are most affected by this ongoing war.

Unfortunately the Republicans have hitched their wagon to a snake oil salesman who will sell them “Make America Great Again”, and then give himself and his rich friends a hefty tax cut, leaving the working class to go back working for the Capitalist system.

They have publicly declared to obstruct Biden in any effort to help the Nation maintain a form of economic stability.

They even voted against a urgently needed infrastructure plan the repair the crumbling transportation structure of the nation.

Don’t give me that BS on Biden’s efforts. He is doing as much as people allow him to do and they are being sold a bill of goods by an master con-man, a tv personality who had a show called “You’re fired” . Go figure!

That’s the perfect response in this conversation about misinformation

The GOP has demonstrated they want absolute control - over the gov’t, and over the people. … Oh, you’ll have your freedoms as long as they are in agreement with the gov’t.

When has anyone (person, party, leader, ruler) wanted absolute control for the good of the people?

Besides, Biden and Russia aren’t part of this thread.
Soz, just to get it back on track. The original was just under the 750 target length.

This version is at 522 word, I’d like to get down to 500, but ain’t see’n what to cut.

Googling, “Why are Democrats losing voters?” reveals that voters who care are feeling so disenfranchised by the Democratic Party that they are turning off in droves.

This, during a year that should have every Democracy loving American energized and looking for how they can best participate in the coming election, it’s frightening.

After all, more than anything this election will be about the future of open and fair elections in the USA. Beyond that, it’s going to be a national referendum between the importance of honesty and truth in America’s public dialogue vs. a descent into anger driven anarchy. No exaggeration, simply pay attention to how the Republican Party has been engaging in every imaginable dirty trick to stymie future election participation and voting legitimacy.

Successful politicians require strong, informed, proactive support at their backs if they are to lead, yet the DNC seems to be doing little to nurture that sort of buy-in from their grassroots. Why?

The DNC’s disregard towards rank and file concerns is reflected in the constant bombardment of DNC’s boilerplate donation pitches, as though donating money was all We The People are good for. I understand the need to fundraise, but what about making us feel like active participants through straight talk, informing us of challenges, calling for feedback, being responsive, nurturing engagement.

The DNC should earn its money by informing and engaging constituents in a way that makes sense to us and connects with our lives. Creating relevance, encourages enthusiasm, produces participation.

Why not use the internet? Why not create a quality internet platform for having constructive political dialogue? By Democrats for Democrats!

The Democratic Party Online Discussion Forum.

Give America’s untapped concerned citizens a place to go for sharing their own stories, ideas, concerns, questions, challenges.

The Forum would be public, though I think it would be appropriate to limit commenting and posting privileges to registered Democrats. It would require a short set of clearly spelled out guidelines. Participants would need to sign up and agree to abide by the forum’s rules and standards. Moderators would be of critical importance to the DNC’s Discussion Forum’s success - fair, consistent, with a flair for humor, touch of empathy, and an instinct for constructive resolution and steering dialogue back on point .

I’ve been participating at “forum.CenterForInquiry.org" for many years and they provide an excellent example of how such a Forum could be organized and operated. CFI is small, a Democratic Party Online Discussion Forum could serve as a nucleus for some serious community building and it would grow as Democrats across the country discovered a place to speak out, hear new voices, to learn and to network within the Democratic Party organization.

Politically interested citizens have few opportunities for connecting with others, provide us with a trustworthy adult discussion platform for constructive dialogue among concerned individuals, I can’t think of a better way to rapidly increase awareness, and reinvigorate a disillusioned Democratic grassroots.

After all, for all its faults the Democratic Party is all we have! We need to focus on fixing it, rather than abandoning what little remaining political muscle we the people have.

Anakin Skywalker aka Darth Vader

There are some in history, Adolf H, among them. the worst is that he believed it.

Catholic inquisition ,witches burners and so, also.

I am afraid i could go on.

We can’t do anything about all that, but we can do something about tomorrow.

How about a feel good story

POWER IS WIELDED BY THOSE WHO SHOW UP.

It’s crazy how the time speeds on by, ten days since that post. The proposal hasn’t changed much, and now it’s starting to circulate via email to Democratic Party officials. 5 states down 45 to go - we’ll see how I do with that. Doing the best I can with what I have. I’m reposting the current (2-25-22) text since I do refer to the CFI Forum.

2022 Democratic Platform Proposal

Create a Democratic Party Online Discussion Forum for reinvigorating constructive political dialogue, by Democrats, for Democrats. Help your Democratic grassroots network and get informed, thus enabling and nurturing a reengagement with our political process.

For your consideration: A Democratic Party Online Discussion Forum.

Googling, “Why are Democrats losing voters?” reveals that voters who care are feeling so disenfranchised by the Democratic Party that they are turning off in droves.

This, during a year that should have every Democracy loving American energized and looking for how they can best participate in the coming election, it’s frightening.

After all, more than anything this election will be about the future of open and fair elections in the USA. Beyond that, it’s going to be a national referendum between the importance of honesty and truth in America’s public dialogue vs. a descent into anger driven anarchy. No exaggeration, simply pay attention to how the Republican Party has been engaging in every imaginable dirty trick to stymie future election participation and voting legitimacy.

Successful politicians require strong, informed, proactive support at their backs if they are to lead, yet the DNC seems to be doing little to nurture that sort of buy-in from their grassroots. Why?

The DNC’s disregard towards rank and file concerns is reflected in the constant bombardment of boilerplate donation pitches, as though money was all We The People are good for. I understand the need to fundraise, but what about making us feel like active participants through straight talk, informing us of challenges, calling for feedback, being responsive, nurturing engagement.

The DNC should earn its money by informing and engaging constituents in a way that makes sense to us and connects with our lives. Creating relevance, encourages enthusiasm, produces participation.

Why not use the internet? Why not create a quality internet platform for having constructive political dialogue, by Democrats, for Democrats?

The Democratic Party Online Discussion Forum.

Give America’s untapped concerned Democrats a place to go for sharing their own stories, ideas, concerns, questions, challenges.

The Forum would be public, though only registered Democrats could sign-on to comment and start threads. It would require a set of clearly spelled out guidelines. Participants would need to sign up and agree to abide by the forum’s rules and standards. Moderators would be of critical importance to the DNC’s Discussion Forum’s success - fair, consistent, with a flair for humor, touch of empathy, and an instinct for constructive resolution and steering dialogue back on point .

I’ve been participating at “forum.CenterForInquiry.org" for many years and they provide an excellent example of how such a Forum could be organized and operated. CFI is small, a Democratic Party Online Discussion Forum could serve as a nucleus for some serious community building and it would grow as Democrats across the country discovered a place to speak out, hear new voices, to learn and to network within the Democratic Party organization.

Politically interested working citizens have few opportunities for connecting with others, provide us with a trustworthy adult discussion platform for constructive dialogue among concerned Democrats, I can’t think of a better way to rapidly increase awareness, and reinvigorate a disillusioned Democratic grassroots.

After all, for all its faults the Democratic Party is all we have! We need to focus on fixing it, rather than abandoning what little remaining political muscle We The People have.

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I wholly agree with CC suggestion. CFI would be an ideal setting for interested persons to meet a rotation of Democratic representatives and discuss issues that can never be discussed on the streets with a quick hand-shake.

CFI is an ideal secular forum to discuss humanistic issues which in many respects is the fundamental Democratic platform anyway.

I would be eager to join such a discussion group.

Come on folks, post some “likes” to voice agreement with CC’s excellent suggestion.

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Things have gotten quiet around here.
I often wonder why there aren’t more people out there wanting to discuss their perspective and share while trying to make sense of why we (the collective we) behave as we do.

Why do so, so many simply turn off? Disconnect, circle their wagons and isolate. I feel like a freak because I believe in my bones that people are supposed to be interested in our political system and take these things personally. I lived north Bell Ave, middle Chicago, we had a polling place down the block, and every Election Day was sort of exciting. With parents who kept up (and discussed) current events, who reinforced those feeling of the specialness of this society I was part of.

But now. We have a very cool interesting little venue like CFI Forum available to millions, yet barely a couple dozen show up to attempt dialogue.
I can’t fathom the apathy, but then, I get to visit cities, live in suburbia occasionally, drive in the traffic, look at the magazines people consume, the movies they watch, the empty facades they embrace with such zeal, their complacent disregard for infrastructure (and systems) and what it takes to make our society possible, etc.

That curious hollowness amongst so many terrifies me, . . .
There’s a reason I’ve lost all my faith in the future,
but that’s simply so much more reason to live today,
. . . and so on and so forth.

{ … I’ll spare you the next few paragraphs. :kissing_heart: }

That’s in part because the rule violators are gone. Strangely enough, that’s not all on us mods though. The system seems as capable as the Enterprise computer of doing things too. We mods have found it very intriguing on the system works. It puts Alexa, Siri, and Gooogly to shame. I don’t know who programmed her, but she’s good.

They can if they follow the rules.

I can’t speak for the other mod, but I really would like to have discussions, but I want quality, intellectual/thoughtful, discussions without hostility, name calling, racism, trolling, or any other rule violation.

I don’t mind culling the crazies.

Tough rules too.
Eh, . . .
Practice a bit of civility, keep it rational, acknowledge what others are saying, provide a little support for one’s claims, good faith curiosity, and so forth. Constructive dialogue. We’ve had some rather good discussions, every now and then. Hope is a survival strategy in hopeless times. :kissing_heart:

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Yes, that is what we need on CFI forums, but lately it’s not been like that with name calling, racism and all.

That’s the challenge isn’t it? I just did a national conversation with Braver Angels on the topic of having all points of view on the table. It’s a problem in a world where leaders are using lies to promote their agenda. Freedom of speech and even scientific research demands we listen to all points of view, but, and it’s a big but, that any conversation must have structure. Even in a bar or your own living room, there are rules.

Moderation here is just keeping the crazy from getting too crazy.