Tat Tvam, Asi ("Thou Art That") - J.Fann.Jr.

All the conjectures, theories, interpretations teaching, and relative experiences which are imprinted within our conscious and spread into our minds, no matter academic, common or religious, is the cloning of opposition to tolerance of points of understanding not in line with indoctrinated conformed thinking. This intolerance cause an eclipse of the light of man’s compassion, and he finds himself paying the ultimate price for his unjust thinking and irresponsibility to utilize his individual gifts of righteousness he was bless with when entering the world of skin?
We see the price manifested as selfish moral laws which inspires wars, greed, and lack of integrity to Spirit laws, statues and patterned principles which locks the chamber of the the sub-conscious reality of an illusion of ignorance, and beliefs formed to fulfill a purpose bent totally on self survival of self-righteous deceit and pride. This lack of Spirit integrity of divine laws, statues and patterned principles initiated, and feeds the mind, and imaginations with a comprehension which will not go beyond the noise of the human opposition of man’s Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde personalities.
Man plows on into the myth of flesh. Flesh which is real, but not reality. Real in the sense that all is the reality of thought, and what a man thinks and demonstrates by action taken to be real to him. Real but not reality, because man is not an original thinker of thoughts, only a subject which Cosmic Consciousness has objectified by It Spirit of perception.
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“My thoughts are not your thoughts,” man is forewarned. But men take no heed. They boast God has given them a right; a choice to think as they please. This is also real, but it is not Reality. The reality of man is found when he adheres to the commandment “be not conformed to this world, but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect will of God.” This obedience reverts the human consciousness to its First Love established in the intent, purpose and will of the Father in the invisible where there is no forms of matter for distraction; only a VOICE of Silence intuitive impulse upon the Altar of the Soul man’s inner temple body of the Holy Ghost-tat tvam asi (“thou art that”).

Doublespeak.
Lois

Jufa, you need to descend from your mountaintop long enough to learn to write more clearly. I have no idea what you’re saying.

God was sitting in heaven one day when a scientist said to Him,
“God, we don’t need you anymore. Science has finally figured
out a way to create life out of nothing - in other words, we
can now do what you did in the beginning.”
“Oh, is that so? Tell Me…” replies God.
“Well,” says the scientist, “we can take dirt and form it into
the likeness of you and breathe life into it, thus creating
man.”
“Well, that’s very interesting…show Me.” So the scientist
bends down to the earth and starts to mold the soil into the
shape of a man.
“No, no, no…” interrupts God, “Get your own dirt.”

The question presented here today to all those who created themselves
Where were you before you were born?

The question presented here today to all those who created themselves Where were you before you were born?
True enough, but atheists don't say we "created ourselves." We had nothing to do with it. We are the result of evolution, which has been going on for millennia. At the very least if theists are bent on seeing god as the creator, give him credit for doing it through evolution, though too many true believers don't think he could have been smart enough for that. They can only understand simple things like abra cadabra creation and nothing as complicated as evolution. They apparently don't think he can be any smarter than they are. LL

19 For what happens to the children of man and what happens to the beasts is the same; as one dies, so dies the other.
They all have the same breath, and man has no advantage over the beasts, for all is vanity.
20 All go to one place. All are from the dust, and to dust all return.
21 Who knows whether the spirit of man goes upward and the spirit of the beast goes down into the earth?
22 So I saw that there is nothing better than that a man should rejoice in his work, for that is his lot.
Who can bring him to see what will be after him?

19 For what happens to the children of man and what happens to the beasts is the same; as one dies, so dies the other. They all have the same breath, and man has no advantage over the beasts, for all is vanity. 20 All go to one place. All are from the dust, and to dust all return. 21 Who knows whether the spirit of man goes upward and the spirit of the beast goes down into the earth? 22 So I saw that there is nothing better than that a man should rejoice in his work, for that is his lot. Who can bring him to see what will be after him?
You omitted the citation Ecclesiastes 19-22
The question presented here today to all those who created themselves Where were you before you were born?
True enough, but atheists don't say we "created ourselves." We had nothing to do with it. We are the result of evolution, which has been going on for millennia. At the very least if theists are bent on seeing god as the creator, give him credit for doing it through evolution, though too many true believers don't think he could have been smart enough for that. They can only understand simple things like abra cadabra creation and nothing as complicated as evolution. They apparently don't think he can be any smarter than they are. LL No one stated atheist created themselves, this in what you attempt to interject into this conversation to make a point not found in the context of the original post. The question was to all those who created themselvs. Deduction is the reason why no individual human can say I am the beginning term of myself, because the moment of reality of entering the skin is a process which you cannot pinpoint even within yourself. And why should theist be given credit for evolution being the beginning of life when evolution itself has to have a beginning point for existence. To evolve there must be a object of extension to justify subjectivity of advancement. In all what you have stated, you forgot, or do not know what this object is. If this is not true, then tell what is the jumping off point when birth evolution. Please provide
The question presented here today to all those who created themselves Where were you before you were born?
True enough, but atheists don't say we "created ourselves." We had nothing to do with it. We are the result of evolution, which has been going on for millennia. At the very least if theists are bent on seeing god as the creator, give him credit for doing it through evolution, though too many true believers don't think he could have been smart enough for that. They can only understand simple things like abra cadabra creation and nothing as complicated as evolution. They apparently don't think he can be any smarter than they are. LL No one stated atheist created themselves, this in what you attempt to interject into this conversation to make a point not found in the context of the original post. The question was to all those who created themselvs. Deduction is the reason why no individual human can say I am the beginning term of myself, because the moment of reality of entering the skin is a process which you cannot pinpoint even within yourself. And why should theist be given credit for evolution being the beginning of life when evolution itself has to have a beginning point for existence. To evolve there must be a object of extension to justify subjectivity of advancement. In all what you have stated, you forgot, or do not know what this object is. If this is not true, then tell what is the jumping off point when birth evolution. Please provide I have no idea what you are talking about. Please write in English.
The question presented here today to all those who created themselves Where were you before you were born?
True enough, but atheists don't say we "created ourselves." We had nothing to do with it. We are the result of evolution, which has been going on for millennia. At the very least if theists are bent on seeing god as the creator, give him credit for doing it through evolution, though too many true believers don't think he could have been smart enough for that. They can only understand simple things like abra cadabra creation and nothing as complicated as evolution. They apparently don't think he can be any smarter than they are. LL No one stated atheist created themselves, this in what you attempt to interject into this conversation to make a point not found in the context of the original post. The question was to all those who created themselvs. Deduction is the reason why no individual human can say I am the beginning term of myself, because the moment of reality of entering the skin is a process which you cannot pinpoint even within yourself. And why should theist be given credit for evolution being the beginning of life when evolution itself has to have a beginning point for existence. To evolve there must be a object of extension to justify subjectivity of advancement. In all what you have stated, you forgot, or do not know what this object is. If this is not true, then tell what is the jumping off point when birth evolution. Please provide I have no idea what you are talking about. Please write in English. Oh, you understood when you chose to respond to this thread in the beginning. Now that you've be asked to clarify your statements about evolution, all of a sudden you became retarded.

This is a classic case of a “deepity” – a bunch of religious woo-woo masquerading as something profound. Let him/her formally present the argument in an anylitically valid way so we can evaluation it. The burden of proof here rests with him/her. Until so doing, we are under no obligation to take this seriously.

jufa said; The question presented here today to all those who created themselves Where were you before you were born?
Where were you before you were born? A sparkle in the eye of God? "Immaculate conception" by the "virgin" Mary? A "five and dime" store?
jufa said: "Thou art that"
And who created "Thou Art That"? Did God create himself? "I am that, I am" is god's expression of self, no?

Better expressed as ; “I think, therefore I am”. That’s called conscious self-awareness