Not in Theocracies…
Try wearing this at 100 F without fainting. Try taking it off and you get stoned.
Show a bare ankle and you get beaten by the “morality police”.
Individual rights are the most precious possession a person can enjoy. And there is always someone who wants to restrict your personal freedoms to be who or what you are.
In some Islamic countries LGBTQ gender identification is “punishable” by death.
No personal freedoms there.
Wealthy foreigners cause even more trouble because they have more power. A recent European example is the new hate speech law passed in Scotland under their Pakistani leader.
There are always outliers such as your colleagues, but the majority of non-Whites in the Western world are a problem.
100 years ago and today are two different worlds. Nobody today moves to cities because they have mouths to feed.
Not sure what you’re talking about here. I don’t have to put myself in their shoes to know that diversity is bad.
You said,
That is a claim that I have to physically experience something you have in order to comprehend it. In this case, that’s not true. You can’t dismiss millions of other experiences and reports that easy.
It sounds like you’re saying a lot of people like diversity so it can’t be destructive, which is obviously false. A lot of people like things that are bad, e.g. drugs. More to the point, it’s a fact that diversity breaks down social fabric. All of the current political problems we have are due to increasing diversity.
I didn’t say that.
I said people are demonstrably, objectively better off compared to the days of walls, religious wars, and nationalism. Those things exist still but to a far lesser degree.
I think that you are over-optimist when i look at Trump supporters, Putin war, religious and nationalist terrorism
I think we take a change in trajectory and call it an inevitable truth. Democracy and science have been on the rise for centuries and they have resulted in better lives for billions. Now, those trends are falling back a little. But there are no advancing empires tearing down nations. The dictators meet resistance at every turn.
I think things will get worse but never as bad as they were. We have been sold the lie of constant growth for so long, changing to sustainability looks like a failure.
If you were talking about Economics, i would fully agree.
I really hope you are right at the political level.
It’s tough to make predictions, especially about the future.
Yogi Berra
How do you manage to compute B and then arrive at A, is mystifying.
How you manage to vague so much is not really a thing.
Actually, only in sustainability lies survivability. Constant growth translates into an exponential result that MUST come to a halt when sustainability limits are exceeded. (Dr Albert Bartlett)
Sometimes I feel like some people who have been on this forum for years have forgotten 90% of what I’ve posted. If I didn’t know that about sustainability I wouldn’t call constant growth a lie would I? Did you understand that I meant valuing constant growth as a measure of a healthy economy is a lie?
What’s vague about acknowledging the need to pay attention to physical reality?
Of course while that population line is heading up, (perhaps not as fast as before, but still quite positive),
and it’s going to be intersecting this line (or should I clarify, the consequences of the warming that’s represented in this graphic . . .)
Climate Impacts on Agriculture and Food Supply | Climate Change Impacts | US EPA
Key Points
- Moderate warming and more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere may help some plants to grow faster. However, more severe warming, floods, and drought may reduce yields.
- Livestock may be at risk, both directly from heat stress and indirectly from reduced quality of their food supply.
- Fisheries will be affected by changes in water temperature that make waters more hospitable to invasive species and shift the ranges or lifecycle timing of certain fish species.
Nothing vague about the substance of these reports and their implications.
Looking at it on a global societal scale. Where things get vague is when such physical realities smack up against our desires and expectations. Where facts become enemies and delusional, (as in disconnected from what we are actually doing to this planet), musing has become the sport of the age.
Which, in turn, translates into more self-serving expectations, self-justifications, and behaviors - that in the long run do us more harm than good.
As a whole we avoid looking at the other side of our modern marvels and the price others must pay for us.
For instance, looking at Guy’s suppositions and conclusions, one has to wonder what’s going on in that mind, that was fed Rush L. and the preachers and FOX news that helped contrive the superman, the chosen Uber-human, to rule them all, self-image?
I mean what’s with self-imagining oneself as a superior human being surrounded by hostile tribes? Yet that’s what the MAGA movement is all about.
It’s sad and infuriating.
Sure we humans have tons of smarts, we really could deal with what’s heading our way, but so long as our priorities don’t change, political games, computer games, social media, BD games of yet more vicious wars, space tourism for the ultra-rich, talking about colonizing other planets, etc., as if all this other down to Earth fundamental stuff isn’t falling apart because of our own actions.
It’s that collective retreat into past successes and disregard for our own responsibility to today’s crisis, built out of our own disregard and all to vague sense of connection to this planet that created and sustained us.
[Heck listen to some of those reaction to the super-cargo carrier crashing into the bridge, talk about disconnected. It fell so fast, yeah babe, gravity is amazing. I’ve been witness to huge cottonwood limbs busting, it’s breathtaking how fast they hit the ground. My question there is, why wasn’t that ship being escorted by a couple tugs, as it happens in many other ports?]
Ohh, Lausten, if I disagreed with you, I would have spelled that out.
I said the above in support of your missive about the common belief that constant growth is a good thing, without considering the exponential growth function.
And for those readers who are not familiar with the laws of exponential growth, I’ll put in the link to the authoritative lecture by Albert Bartlett (RIP)
We’re on the same page!!!
What is being referred to as A? What is B? What was “arrived” at. Instead of asking a clarifying question, that is actively listening, engaging in dialog, instead, some assumption was made.
Using “actually” at the beginning of a sentence indicates contradiction or the introduction of a new topic.
See 3a
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Using “actually” at the beginning of a sentence indicates contradiction or the introduction of a new topic.
See 3a
Sorry, I was not aware of that subtle distinction.
In spite of that semantic error, the content totally agrees with your position.
Bartlett’s favorite saying was : "
I recommend this lecture to EVERYONE!
p.s. For all posters.
When you have a very long addy like the one above, it can be edited to:
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/actually#
