You thought there was only one Mary!
In one version, there was only one Mary at the tomb. In another version, there is three at the tomb. Read all three gospels yourself and you will see there are different numbers of Marys at the tomb. They are just stories written by various people and Paul even stated he wasn’t an eyewitness.
After all the early church folks knew these guys.
ROFLMAO! That’s too funny. No they didn’t know any of them. They really didn’t.
No one knew Mark? Get serious. So if he was known and later on some new writings were added or found, all they need to do was add them to the compiled stuff. Bingo. Even if when it did finally get added Mark was dead and gone, we cannot say that close friends of his had not preserved some of his stuff. As mentioned, since all Scripture is inspired by God, if He wanted to get some stuff included that was not known about earlier on…boom. No sweat at all. In all ways, you cannot claim it is not inspired.
One Mary arrived and one gospel recorded that. Later the other Mary showed up, and sure enough, she also was recorded on another gospel. Good thing we have four gospels!
Mark is the author’s pen name and was not the actual name of the author. The four gospels are not historical nor are they accurate or have the same documentations about the various scenes. If there were actually 3 Marys then all four gospels would have reported that, but they are stories written by different authors, one building on the other. Basically, each is a reboot of the original story.
People had names. Sometimes folks were called by one name when they also had another. Jesus did that you know also. Even God has a plethora of names! So whoever Mark was the guy was trusted enough to have his work considered and accepted as sacred Scripture. Later we see that others affirm that all Scripture is from God and inspired. Not sure what you would prefer Mark to have been named? How about Luke, is that fine with you? There were many people and some had the same names, like Mary, that made it into the record of the bible. Your attempt at trying to make God and His writers of Scripture look foolish by saying that each Mary was the same doesn’t work and only tells us about where you are at…
Funny how people seize upon what is unknown to try and support their decisions of faith. I have no problem with the last bit of Mark. After all the early church folks knew these guys. They compiled their writings and put then together.Yes, Egyptians also had gods and writings about them. Why do you no longer believe in the Egyptian Gods. The scribes of old knew the the Pharaohs and Holy men of those days . They compiled their writing, and build great pyramids to honor their divine rulers and their parent gods.
They had a good idea what was inspired and we do not have the info they had then as to who should be credited with what. If some of Mark’s stuff was found later and added on, great!Yes, that was great and totally without any proof.
If we do not have the info they had then how can you even credit any of this to anyone? Do you see the contradiction? The real stuff of origins was found by scientists and added to natural history. I think that was great, because there was proof!!!
If God arranged some other situation to get the writing in, great! In any case who are you to claim that it is not inspired? Is there something in there you don’t like?How did god arrange situations to get the writing in and who are you to claim that the writings of your god were inspired but the writings about the gods of mythology were not inspired and false? Is there something about them you don't like? Throughout history there have been entirely too many gods, angels, demons, ghoulies and ghosties, and things that go bump in the night.
And what is so special about inspired writings. Most great fiction are inspired writing but have no basis in fact. The authors specifically include disclaimers. I am a writer and have written inspired prose and poetry. I do not claim a “special” relationship with some deity.
You have no authority to claim anything, last of all truths about spiritual matters. Yet, instead of adding disclaimers, you declare and claim truth without proof of any kind… Now you may be sincere in your beliefs, but don’t pretend you actually know what you’re talking about, just like the holy men of old did not have a clue as to what they were talking about.
Even God has a plethora of names!Yes, ask a Christian if Allah is same god as the Christian god. They even came from the some scripture. Yet we had hundreds of years of Crusades and tens of thousands of dead people. All because their god said it was a good idea! The same God? You don't even know your own God., how can you judge anyone else's God or atheists for that matter.
I’m sorry if I sound harsh, but don’t come preaching to me when you have no clue as to what you’re talking about. You are not seeking truth, you are seeking justification for centuries of prejudice and self-gratification.
Show us the verse where God says Christians should kill people? Gong!
Yes there are many spirits and have always been including in the time of ancient Egypt. The bible calls them evil spirits, and who says we don’t believe they exist?? Strawman argument.
The proof is in the pudding for Scripture. The inspired writings are tested and proven to be inspired. What proof have you that they are NOT? Zero. Nada. Squat.
As for the spirits/gods of ancient times, who said they are all not real? Don’t try to hang that rap on me! And I have all the absolute authority in the universe to say that God’s word is good and right. You have zero authority or ability to dispute it.
Later we see that others affirm that all Scripture is from God and inspired.
It was written and inspired by man and not at all from any god.
Even God has a plethora of names!
Oh yes, even Krishna was the “I am” and was an incarnation of god.
I’m sorry if I sound harsh, but don’t come preaching to me when you have no clue as to what you’re talking about. You are not seeking truth, you are seeking justification for centuries of prejudice and self-gratification.
No, he’s trying to evangelize and get his message out to people about his idea of deity in the hopes of converting people to his beliefs.
‘god’ means nothing. Evil spirits are a dime a dozen.
That is a statement of faith without any possible support.
The inspired writings are tested and proven to be inspired. What proof have you that they are NOT? Zero. Nada. Squat.What proof do you have. You are making the claim. The burden of proof falls on you.
As for the spirits/gods of ancient times, who said they are all not real? Don’t try to hang that rap on me! And I have all the absolute authority in the universe to say that God’s word is good and right. You have zero authority or ability to dispute it.I have absolute authority to dispute your false claim . Without proof you have no authority or standing in the court of objective truth.
No Atheist has ever killed a person because God told him it was a good idea. Can you make the same claim about Theists?
No proof involved either way. You have belief, as do others. When people say things like ‘it is fiction’ or ‘it is fantasy’ they cannot support it. As for the untold millions killed by godless unbelievers, of course they do not kill because God told them to. They do it because they are wicked. On the other hand NO Christian or anyone else has ever killed because Jesus told them to!
On the other hand NO Christian or anyone else has ever killed because Jesus told them to!May be Jesus never told to kill anyone, but christians have killed because they thought that their faith impelled them to.
For instance, heretics had to be killed, witches, homosexuals, and i am sure i forget some. I will not speak about the crusades except two facts:
-Crusades were not only against Islam, but for instance against Albigensians. Thousands of people were killed.
-When the first crusaders took Jerusalem, a general massacre of Jews and Muslims took place, in the name of god.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_(1099)
No proof involved either way. You have belief, as do others. When people say things like ‘it is fiction’ or ‘it is fantasy’ they cannot support it.Wronggggggggggggg!
The burden of proof does not fall on me. It is on you and you can try to wriggle your way out of this, but it doesn’t alter the fact that I don’t need to prove anything, especially a negative. I am not making a claim. If you insist on trying to make an argument that the burden of some kind of proof lies on me, you will only dig yourself deeper in the hole.
Holder of the burden
When two parties are in a discussion and one makes a claim that the other disputes, the one who makes the claim typically has a burden of proof to justify or substantiate that claim especially when it challenges a perceived status quo.[1] This is also stated in Hitchens's razor, which declares that "what may be asserted without evidence, may be dismissed without evidence." Carl Sagan proposed a related criterion – "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" – which is known as the Sagan standard.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)
If you cannot even advance a cogent argument why I should believe in a supernatural skydaddy living up there, somewhere, then don’t come here preaching as if we are your choir. You are at a disadvantage here, trust me.
You are talking to educated adults and hopelessly out of your depth…sorry…
No proof involved either way. You have belief, as do others. -- dad1Have you told us what religion you follow? Who are your elders, your teachers? Because a lot of them, teach what Write4U just described. They teach that some of the Bible is literature, some of it is allegorical, some of it is poetry, some of it is forgery. That's right, forgery, they have a fancier word for it, but as Mriana pointed out, there is wide agreement among believing Christian Scholars, that 5 of the books attributed to Paul were not actually written by Paul. It was a perfectly common thing for people to do in the first few centuries.
Here’s my favorite one. Take a book like Amos. He is railing on the Jewish leaders in his time. So who is right? Who do I believe? The prophet or the king? Same for Jesus. He spoke against and tricked the Pharisees and Sadducees. Which religious leader is correct? The early gospels and even Acts are very egalitarian and have women in leadership roles, the later letters, like Timothy, are not.