Review of the Rules. Comments welcome

A few things I’d like to highlight.

When you see bad behavior, don’t reply. Replying encourages bad behavior by acknowledging it, consumes your energy, and wastes everyone’s time. Just flag it . If enough flags accrue, action will be taken, either automatically or by moderator intervention.

Do this instead of making a comment that says the moderators aren’t doing their jobs. We don’t read every post, and don’t always see things the way you do. By claiming the moderators have missed something, you are violating this rule:

6. Users may express their disagreements with the decisions or actions of Moderators, but disagreements, criticisms and the like may be discussed in the Issues & Complaints category ONLY. (You must read the instructions at the top of that Forum before making complaints there). Any such discussions not taking place within the I & C Forum are considered off-topic, and as such are subject to moving, locking or deletion, at the discretion of Moderators.

And in Rule #1

Note that Moderators may not be aware of all activity occurring on the Forum. If there is something you feel needs Moderator attention, please send a concise Private Message or email including a description of the issue and the URL of the associated post or thread. Moderator decisions on any topic may be delayed, perhaps by several days.

And #3f

In particular, abuse of Moderators for performing their responsibilities will not be permitted.

Better to avoid dealing those rules and follow Rule #2

When you see bad behavior, don’t reply. Replying encourages bad behavior by acknowledging it, consumes your energy, and wastes everyone’s time. Just flag it . If enough flags accrue, action will be taken, either automatically or by moderator intervention.

Most of the people who are banned, you won’t even see. Our bots and some easy intervention takes care of spam, duplicate and multiple posts, and copyright material. Fortunately I don’t see too much of private messages getting copied out into the forum. Then, there’s my favorite,

#3e

“inflammatory” is a judgment call, and “intent to prolong debate” even more so, but it’s not that hard to recognize when something is not trying to
“promote, defend, or critique a particular idea or point of view”. Stick to that, and use data and evidence to promote your ideas, and we’re all good.

Also #3f

Vulgarity is the easiest to spot, but “impolite”, hmm. I do tell people to get a think skin sometimes. Really, we could boil the entire FAQ rules down to “Free inquiry is only possible if we maintain civility.” I’ve seen a lot of abuse lately and I’ve let it go, because, well, no one flags anything! But the question is, how many people are reading these and not participating because they don’t want to get that abuse?

It does get difficult when discussing something like women’s rights and comments are made that I think indicate sexism, but the poster might consider a statement of traditional values.

#3g mentions “off-topic” conversation. This is one I let go all the time, because I know one thing can lead to another. I like the free flow. I will usually combine this with #3h, that is, if it’s repetitious, for example ‘everything is about free will’ to someone.

Rule #4 clarifies when banning is appropriate, mentioning some of the above, plus, “deletion of your prior posts”, using more than one username, re-registering, standard stuff.

Rule #5 came up recently and the person left the forum on their own. They claimed they wanted to discuss what humanism is, but I thought they were getting kind of abusive and argumentative with their arguments.

So, back to Rule #6 it’s where you go if all the above isn’t working for you. There have been two or three good discussions there over the years. Mostly, it’s where people go just before we ban them. Sorry to say.

6. Users may express their disagreements with the decisions or actions of Moderators, but disagreements, criticisms and the like may be discussed in the Issues & Complaints category

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I received a couple weird unsolicited private messages recently including the odd statement.

A) I simply relied to first message, and received this.

Why are you breaking the rules about keeping private conversations private?

Which makes little sense on any level, since I simply replied to message.

B) Okay I’m not a great Rules fine print reader,
since I believe the basic rules are pretty fundamental - be honest, honorable, respectful, don’t be a jerk and you’ll be okay -

I’ve never felt that private messages are sacrosanct - especially a weird, or threatening, or attacking message - If someone communicates with me privately, I have every right to share that message - if I wanted to.

Feedback?

Just on a basic, common courtesy level, I think the FAQ rules states it pretty well.

d. Publishing private messages, emails or other correspondence without permission from the authors is not allowed.

To me, that would mean an email from anyone, or a PM on any other system, but definitely on this one.

But, as you noted, I don’t know what the person is complaining about. They would have to contact me, privately, and tell me what was shared publicly. I’ve never tried to look into anyone’s messages, I’m not sure I have the right to do so.

Hmmm, so can I take from that,
that you are unaware, that I have published anything “private” from anyone else in the past few days?

Oh and for the record I agree with all that, with one caveat, if anyone sends me anything threatening, I retain the right to blast it all over the internet, if I so choose.
I’ve found from past experience that a timely offense, resolves that sort of unwanted cr@… in a hurry.
:slightly_smiling_face: :+1:

If Lausten didn’t post that and I didn’t post it, that leaves stupid AI, which we do have on the forum.

Happy Birthday, the season is upon us.

:moon_cake::bouquet::clinking_glasses:

Thank you, thank you. I am now 13 years old 5 + 8 = 13 (again) and I’m drinking my wine. :smiley: :smiley_cat:

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Yes. I unaware.

Don’t take that out of context. :laughing:

He posted my private message to him in the
[RE: Global warming ? Climate change? Global cooling? Without my permission A violation of the rules

At the bottom of every post, there is an icon that looks like a piece of chain. Click that, then post the link here.

https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/re-global-warming-climate-change-global-cooling/10875/4

What private message did he make public? You linked a quote of a public message. Edit: or is that the message thread? I still don’t get what you are saying. Where is the public message?

Sometimes I have to ban people because they don’t understand the basics. Sorry, but this is really a distraction. Nobody knows what the problem is.


citizenschallengev4

1d

My conversation with that lady scientist in your blog.

I’ve never heard of a private blog

I’m as confused as you Lausten.