Is there a God?

New definition for God is The human brain. The human brain starts learning as soon as it is formed. New research into the workings of the brain suggest that the brain actually makes decisions before we are aware of it’s action. Therefore, everyone should be happy. we each have our own god. Problem solved. This does explain why everyone has a different point of view.

Except you did not define “God". It is not the human brain, it is the knowledge in the human brain. And this is important because of what history can tell us about God.
Breakdown of time.
The concept at its base is broken down in its simplest form to the characteristics of the human. The need to multiply or to live forever.
When the population multiplies it creates many problems. So the multiplying and living forever have the same problem. The lack of “knowledge".
Genesis tells us that “God created earth and man". Now we know that “the gods" were not the same type of gods that people today think of because they had not evolved to this level yet. So let’s say the statement is true. And let’s use the older Genesis stories and not the newest ones like in the Jewish bible.
The Old Genesis tells us the earth was made from stardust, then man appeared. Then man created god. Then god created earth for man. Then god created man.
What we know for sure that comes from digging in the ground is that 2.8 million years ago pre-humans used stone tools and used burial rites. Burial rites implies a form of knowledge in the pre-humans.
A lot of what has been pasted down to us has been mistranslated. Replace the word “god" with the word “knowledge". “Knowledge created earth for man". And that is exactly what happen in the Age of Domestication. So we have man creating knowledge, then knowledge changing the earth for mankind. Then we have man creating (domesticating) all the un-wild animals we know today. The dog is a good example. About the only thing in a supermarket that man did not create today would be fish.
Next we have knowledge creating man. The way the story goes is that natural man was not designed for labor. Had terrible back problems, thus man was domesticated? And if that was so, then there should be clues. Just so happens there are, the white race suddenly appeared from “?". The stories say there were six to twelve races domesticated.
So, when did God stop meaning “knowledge"? The older religions had heavens, hell and after life but no need for any god in the form of a deity until the Age of Deities. You can see knowledge clearly evolving with RA in the Egyptian religion. God controlled all knowledge and when god sent you knowledge by sunlight, it was kept in your heart. The Gnostic clouds that Jesus stood on was the Holy Spirit. The clouds of knowledge, when enough knowledge gather in one place it formed a Gnostic cloud. That’s why they omitted light, sending out knowledge.
Point being, for all of pre-history and half of history “God" has always been in the brain as knowledge. It was only in the Age of Deities that meaning of God was changed. Before the change, god was free to everyone. Being a deity meant you controlled some sort of god (knowledge) and got paid or got benefits by controlling that knowledge. And for the people, believing in that god meant you got a promise that you felt was a benefit to you. Knowledge is power.
You’re right.

We can’t even define what a god is, how could we ever know whether such a thing exists? It’s a concept and nothing more.
Lois

With over a hundred thousand gods that have been around, we can look for a common denominator, and some type of knowledge is a key factor with all the gods. Jesus was Gnostic, Gnostic itself means “knowledge". And since gods and the Age of Deities evolved from the control of knowledge it is a defining factor in defining “god". What ray was pointing out is that god is in the brain. But that is a tough argument because everything is in the brain to the individuals thinking. What I was pointing out is there has to be a reason for “god". Most Christians think it is the heaven and afterlife. Completely unaware that in the timeline of mankind that heaven and afterlife had been on earth much longer than Gods and had no needs for gods. Some of those religions with no gods are still active today.
Now why do I see this as an important issue?
Because, for all those who say they don’t believe in “GOD". Do they know what in the hell they are talking about? When you ask them what they mean, they are really saying they don’t believe in “DEITIES". They confuse “god" with “deities". That is what the Christian religion did by making titles in the bible nouns and renaming the deities in the old texts to one title (god).
Flip the coin over and those who say they do believe in “GOD". Deities and god mean the same thing.
And yes, saying you don’t believe in god. Is say that there is a “god", you just don’t believe in it. You should say, you don’t believe there is such a thing as a “god". But that would make you un-American and totally ignorant to history.
Ray has just flipped the coin over and is having to redefine “god".
If the people at CFI are to ever get over the hump of defining what an “ATHEIST" is. Then they damn well better know what a “god" is.
{Atheist – a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.} We are looking at an all-black or all-white belief system here. But what we have is 50 shades of gray in the middle.
So, what am I saying? Can we have an atheist that believes in God? Normally no. But what has history shown us? We did have one guy who fit that description and that was Jesus. Not according to the Christian view. But if you are following the new data out on the Gnostic writing this is exactly what happened. Jesus saw god as “knowledge". And the reason was because he was converting an area that had heavy Egyptian beliefs, and Christianity is mostly based upon the old Egyptian beliefs. Jesus had to move the Knowledge from the Sun (RA) to the Gnostic form of Knowledge. In other words he had to move the Knowledge from the heart (Egyptian) to the brain (Greek) way of thinking. What Paul and John did to highjack Christianity was to move the Knowledge to God (Holy Spirit).
This brings up rays post. What is god? Or put another way, what is peoples “belief" of what god is. And does that belief entail the thinking of “vase and unbound knowledge"?
Can this mess of misunderstanding and belief systems be fixed?
Answer, yes. The answer is simple enough, but the task is next to impossible. Just do another translation of the bible with today’s understanding of the true and correct meanings.

Just do another translation of the bible with today’s understanding of the true and correct meanings.
What do you think all of the new translations are? What do you think all of the new denominations are? You're close though, the important part of your idea is the "true and correct" part. What we've been working of about 500 years now is how to determine what is true and correct. I think we're doing a fine job and just need to keep doing that.

Just basic simple understanding can greatly help. If the system and methods are not changed, it will take another 500 years to get corrected. After all this isn’t rocket science, it is only history. Take GOD for example, what does history tell us about GOD?
Well so far we understand that the people called the Gods believed in the soul and called it the spirit. They lived in the Age of Domescation and the Midwifes were in charge of domescation. This tells us they did not yet have deities and were very skilled in animal husbandry. We might assume they lived in a Cass system because they had Upper Gods and Lower Gods. The lower Gods were the labors and the Upper Gods were the bosses. We know that the Gods were not physically built for manual labor like farming. That why they breed man to fit the tasks like canal building. This must have taken a couple of centuries at least. This tells us that there were no other people around at the time that could do the tasks.
We know they must have had laws and political organizations of some type. We know the Lower Gods went on labor strikes. We know they believed in after life and living forever by the burning of the bones and the freeing of the spirit.
We know the Gods lived in houses with yards and fences and had personal property. These are tidbits of information pass down to us in the Genesis stories. So we know if the stories are correct that the first Gods were the name of a group or race of people. And they were the people who breed the six to twelve, the number varies in the different Genesis stories, types of man (Adams).
Then come the Age of Deities and the term “God" is the one with knowledge. There were still only a few deity Gods in the beginning. Then the Mediterranean area got involved and the number of Gods exploded. In Egypt God controlled and passed out knowledge. At the time of Jesus, Gods were very plentiful. Today there is a Gnostic theory that Jesus’s wife Mary was a God, even though Jesus wasn’t.
God’s power evolved in the Age of Deities to reach the level of the “WORD". The WORD is the base for God’s power in the Mid-Egyptian and the Religions of the Children of Abraham, which would include Judaism and Christianity.
So, what does the “WORD" mean in the common sense thinking. Being connected to the Gods (people), it can only mean “knowledge" to me. The big question is was the Gods (people) around before or after Mt. Toba eruption and the near extinction of the human race? What cause so much of our history to be lost?

One of these days, Mike, you’ll post something that makes sense.

One of these days, Mike, you'll post something that makes sense.
It will only make sense to you when you are able to find the answers. There are key points to any subject matter. When evolutionists talk to creationists, they bring up key points that go unanswered. Creationists seem to block out the questions like they don’t exist. We have the same thing happening on this site. The Atheists refuse to answer the basic questions. I ask a very simple key question here. “Where did the white man come from"? Because if you find the answer to that question, you will understand the post. The Atheists say they don’t believe in “GOD" as a deity. Others say they don’t believe in GOD in any form. But most would agree with Lois that Atheists can’t even define what GOD is. But most would agree with Lois that Atheists can’t even define what GOD is. But most would agree with Lois that Atheists can’t even define what GOD is. Evolutionists and Atheists aren’t that much different from creationists, when it comes right down to it, they don’t really care or want to know the truth. And I think the reason is that when you look at history and understand what God is, or stands for. It is Gnostic. In other words God is a form of “KNOWLEDGE". And it is next to impossible for an Atheist to say he doesn’t believe in any form of “KNOWLEDGE". When the Muslim Empire expanded and conquered cities, they did not ask for gold. They ask for books of knowledge. In California today, half of all the tax money collected goes toward knowledge. To understand GOD, is to understand knowledge. Really simple stuff, almost beyond basic knowledge of understanding why people make the simplest tasks of understanding and make it into a paradox. {Atheist – a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.} Or put another way, Atheist – a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of certain forms of knowledge, or other types of knowledge. I would state myself that Atheist disbelieve in knowledge that is not proven true. Because knowledge is knowledge whether it is right or wrong. *****Added point. “IS there a God?" Yes, if you see god as knowledge. Now, is all that knowledge correct, or translated correctly. And the answer is no. So, can an Atheist believe in god? Yes, and should believe in the knowledge that is proven to be true. But there is truckloads of trash in the American religious belief system.
“Where did the white man come from"? Because if you find the answer to that question, you will understand the post.
Okay, got that one, now what?]
One of these days, Mike, you'll post something that makes sense.
It will only make sense to you when you are able to find the answers. There are key points to any subject matter. When evolutionists talk to creationists, they bring up key points that go unanswered. Creationists seem to block out the questions like they don’t exist. We have the same thing happening on this site. The Atheists refuse to answer the basic questions. I ask a very simple key question here. “Where did the white man come from"? Because if you find the answer to that question, you will understand the post. The Atheists say they don’t believe in “GOD" as a deity. Others say they don’t believe in GOD in any form. But most would agree with Lois that Atheists can’t even define what GOD is. It isn't only atheists, theists can't, either. But only theists, in a rational world, should be expected to. THEY are the ones making the claim that a god exists. It's up to them to define and offer objective evidence for their claims. How could anyone who does not believe in god define a god? But most would agree with Lois that Atheists can’t even define what GOD is. How could we? How can we define what we don't believe exists? How about YOU defining god, you and other theists are the ones who claim a god exists. Can you define Zeus without resorting to myths and legends? If you can do it, let us know. We're interested. But most would agree with Lois that Atheists can’t even define what GOD is. Nor can theists unless you make something up or depend on other people who have made something up out of thin air, as you always do when it comes to theism. Evolutionists and Atheists aren’t that much different from creationists, when it comes right down to it, they don’t really care or want to know the truth. Atheists do care and the truth is that no one has ever presented any objective evidence that a god of any description exists. So the truth is that any claim of a god is invalid on its face. As for those who accept the objective EVIDENCE of evolution (whom you so quaintly and wrongly call "evolutionists), we accept the objective evidence that reapected scientists have provided. When you can present the merest fraction of a percentage of the tested objective evidence for your god that scientists have provided for evolution, we would take a look and test it. So far, though, Zilch. And I think the reason is that when you look at history and understand what God is, or stands for. It is Gnostic. In other words God is a form of “KNOWLEDGE". And it is next to impossible for an Atheist to say he doesn’t believe in any form of “KNOWLEDGE". Atheists believe in objective, testable evidence and that any claim that doesn't have it is invalid. That's rational knowledge--something you and other theists are apparently ignorant of. It's theists like you who don't believe in any form of objective knowledge. You have proven you believe in fairytales, though, which doesn't count as any kind of actual knowledge to rational people. When the Muslim Empire expanded and conquered cities, they did not ask for gold. They ask for books of knowledge. In California today, half of all the tax money collected goes toward knowledge. And 9/10 of scientific knowledge is rejected by theists. Since Muslims asked for knowledge they have certainly shown their desire for it--knowledge of terrorism, bombs and suffocating misogyny, anyway. To understand GOD, is to understand knowledge. Really simple stuff, almost beyond basic knowledge of understanding why people make the simplest tasks of understanding and make it into a paradox. Explain how to do that? Is it by believing in myths, imagination, dreams and fairytales without a scintilla of objective evidence that they were real? Yes, that's simple stuff, all right, simple-minded stuff. {Atheist – a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.} Or put another way, Atheist – a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of certain forms of knowledge, or other types of knowledge. What "knowledge" is that? Fairytale "knowledge"? Scientifically unsupported "knowledge"? Imaginary "knowledge"? I would state myself that Atheist disbelieve in knowledge that is not proven true. Because knowledge is knowledge whether it is right or wrong. Please show us how it has been proven to be true. We must have missed that. Please don't bother citing bthe bible. It is not evodence of any kind, except for the imagination of ancient people who also had no evidence, but which you embrace without question--or objective evidence. A perfect definition of gullibility. *****Added point. “IS there a God?" Yes, if you see god as knowledge. You can redefine "knowledge all you want and you can redefine god all you want-- it doesn't make your claims valid. It only makes you look uneducated. Now, is all that knowledge correct, or translated correctly. And the answer is no. You can say that again, and again and again and again, ad infinitum. When it comes to religious "knowledge" it's safe to say that NONE of it has been correct and translated correctly. You would have to provide objective evidence for that, too, and you know you can't So, can an Atheist believe in god? No, because if it should happen, he would no longer be an atheist. He would become a delusional theist like you and all other theists, delusion being an intrinsic and necessary part of being a theist. Yes, and should believe in the knowledge that is proven to be true. Atheists DO accept (not believe) the knowledge has been objectively proven to be true. How has any theistic knowledge been proven to be true by any standard except in the imaginations of theists? But there is truckloads of trash in the American religious belief system. Another thing you can say again and again. But you have never said how you can separate the trash from the truth--because you have absolutely no rational method of doing so. You take the trash and say, "This is truth," as if saying it means it is then no longer trash. LL
“Where did the white man come from"? Because if you find the answer to that question, you will understand the post.
Okay, got that one, now what?] UV radiation. Sorry, that data is wrong. But, it was just proven wrong a few months ago. See the graves they have been researching does not back up the UV radiation theory, it disproves the theory. The evolution of UV radiation does not exist. What they did suggest was the white race migrated to Europe.
One of these days, Mike, you'll post something that makes sense.
I don't think so! That's going too far! Lois

Lois,
Simple, can you define gravity? The devil? Heaven? Love? You don’t have to believe in something to be able to define it.
Does God exist? Are 7,000,000,000 people wrong? If so, are they 100% wrong, or just wrong on a few facts?
I like your term “rational knowledge". It took me years to understand this subject. And it was hard to come to terms with the term “knowledge" as a controlling factor. Especially when “knowledge" is hard to get your arms around. And the saying “A little knowledge can be harmful". That has never been truer than in our religions today.
When you talk about Atheists and Theists, don’t you see that there is something terrible wrong. It is not moving because of what the Atheists are doing. The only action is because people are educating themselves out of religion. They come here for answers and are getting the wrong information for their questions.
Also don’t get hung up on the little picture, use the whole timeline of GOD. Understanding the Egyptian religion helps. Then when it comes to Jesus, I thought I would never be able to understand that melting pot of religious thinking. But it turned out to be quite simple with the understanding of Gnostic thinking.
I guess you could relate to religious thinking like the many different types of automobiles and trucks. Then look for the common denominator, gas. Knowledge is the gas.
The United States has been operating for 400 years and religion has changed somewhat. Egypt was in operation for 12,000 years. And for 5,000 of those years the people had no knowledge unless RA gave them knowledge. To them knowledge was real. Try and see knowledge through the eyes of the Egyptians and how they look and felt about knowledge.
Did you ever have an old bible with Jesus standing on a shining cloud? That cloud was a Gnostic Cloud. Or put another way, when knowledge gather it formed a Gnostic Cloud. When the cloud lit up it was sending out knowledge. Jesus standing on the cloud was understood that he was a teacher of knowledge.

“Where did the white man come from"? Because if you find the answer to that question, you will understand the post.
Okay, got that one, now what?] UV radiation. Sorry, that data is wrong. But, it was just proven wrong a few months ago. See the graves they have been researching does not back up the UV radiation theory, it disproves the theory. The evolution of UV radiation does not exist. What they did suggest was the white race migrated to Europe. The part of the answer that you can't argue with is, evolution. I don't care if the UV radiation theory is correct or not. When we are talking physical traits of biological entities, we're talking evolution. That should be sufficient answer to move on.

Lois,
In our lifetime, the Atheist have accepted that Egypt was the Cradle of Civilization. Science proved this beyond a doubt. Wait, it was wrong, it was Jordan that was the Cradle of Civilization. The science proved that Egypt could not have been the Cradle because Jordan now had all the proof. Wait, Israel was the Cradle of Civilization because science has all the proof. Holy cow, it is now Mesopotamia. So now most of all the scientists agree that Mesopotamia is the Cradle of Civilization. Wait, not all the scientists, because there are still items of domestication that should be there that are not being found.
The next step is India for the Cradle of Civilization. Well guess what, the oldest maps have always shown that India was the Cradle of Civilization. So why didn’t the scientists use the maps to begin with. Because they were religious maps.
Point being, you can take this past history of knowledge and take in down the long path, but in the end it will end up being God, as it always was.

“Where did the white man come from"? Because if you find the answer to that question, you will understand the post.
Okay, got that one, now what?] UV radiation. Sorry, that data is wrong. But, it was just proven wrong a few months ago. See the graves they have been researching does not back up the UV radiation theory, it disproves the theory. The evolution of UV radiation does not exist. What they did suggest was the white race migrated to Europe. The part of the answer that you can't argue with is, evolution. I don't care if the UV radiation theory is correct or not. When we are talking physical traits of biological entities, we're talking evolution. That should be sufficient answer to move on. So, where is the evolution? It was supposed to be in Northern Europe. Turns out, it didn’t happen there. Where and when was this white race evolution? Physical traits and biological entities could only be domestication if the evolution proof can’t be found. No different than the horse, chicken, cow and dog to name just a couple. They have the evolution to the point they were domesticated.

Yes! And his name is Dionysus. So shut the [BLEEP] up, pass the wine and let’s get naked!!
Wait… Were you referring to some other deity?

There is certainly no “creator” god but if you call your god something else, at least you have left yourself a little wiggle room.

So, where is the evolution?
There are some good books on that. Maybe you should read one. Your argument is called "argument from ignorance". Look that up too. Normally I cut people slack for that, but you're doing it on purpose.
So, where is the evolution?
There are some good books on that. Maybe you should read one. Your argument is called "argument from ignorance". Look that up too. Normally I cut people slack for that, but you're doing it on purpose. I appreciate your postings. But you are leaving me high and dry on the question, where did the white man come from?