In Europe , any Afghan woman is entitled to political asylum

The European court of justice (ECJ) has ruled that gender and nationality alone are sufficient grounds for a country to grant asylum to women from Afghanistan, where the ruling Taliban have sharply curtailed women’s rights.

“It is unnecessary to establish that there is a risk that the applicant will actually and specifically be subject to acts of persecution if she returns to her country of origin,” the ECJ said in its ruling. “It is sufficient to take into account her nationality and gender alone.”
Afghan Women and political asylum

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You left that dangling. For the rest of the story keep reading:

… Since the Taliban returned to power in Afghanistan in 2021 they have clamped down on women’s rights, including limits to schooling, work and general independence in daily life.

In August the Taliban codified a long set of rules governing morality in line with sharia law. The rules are enforced by the morality ministry, which says it has detained thousands of people for violations.

The United Nations human rights chief has called for the Taliban to repeal a set of “egregious” laws that he said were attempting to turn women into shadows. …

Of course it’s not nice for others to come and camp in your backyard - so hate refugees - but on the other hand, if it’s our political/material actions and expectations that have lead to the destruction of civility in their country, how innocent does that make the homeowner who’s irritated at others being chased out of their homes and trying to get into someone else’s backyard?

It’s a devil of an example of our modern tendency towards self cannibalization. Truth and Justice only exists within specific agreed upon frame works. So long as we try ignoring that, these messes are simply going to get messier. How do I hold on to my sanity during these genuinely insane times? Strive to focus on the day I am living and the people I am with. Do the best I can with what I have. Pursue a solid understanding of myself - pursue and resolve those ageless questions we like to ponder. Get right with my impending death, keep my expectations to a minimum, recognize and enjoy what good does come my way.

Morgan, I don’t want you to misunderstand, I meant that in a general sense, and not about you.
You were simply sharing the story, :+1:

That’s going to open up a can of worms. The EU is a glutton for punishment, though.

Afghanistan has never been truly a country in the modern meaning of the word, until very late. Before and after Arab conquest, it was a collection of tribes of different origins and people and was more or less united very late, plagued with civil wars. The monarchy was abolished by a coup d’état, communist party took the power in 1978, and Soviet union intervened in 1979.

In this times of cold war, USA had to counter that, and supported the foremost ennemies of the communists, the Talibans and people as Ben Laden.

What followed is known.

You are right, what’s happening to Afghan women is the result of West interference.

It is a big reason for not helping the women. And European decision will not provoke an invasion of afghan women in EU.

Not even close. Taliban values are 100% Pashtun origin.

This is true. Very few Afghan women are going to come here, because without male guardians accompanying them they are usually stuck at home.

The problem comes from the EU setting such a low bar for future decisions.

I don’t think Morgan meant that the Taliban got their ideas from the West. I think he meant we have interfered with their development as a modern nation. We set their boundaries after WW2, we used them as pawns in the Cold War, we helped them kick out Russia but then left them on their own to rebuild.

In that case I disagree. “Development” has never even been possible in Afghanistan. Nothing we’ve ever done there – good or bad – amounted to anything more than re-arranging the dust.

The achievements of the People’s Democratic Party of Afghanistan (PDPA) government 1978 to 1992.

  • equal rights for women and minorities.

  • Political prisoners were freed

  • police files publicly burned.

  • raised life expectancy from under the monarchy, which was thirty-five and one in three children died in infancy.

  • Ninety per cent of the population was illiterate, so the PDPA introduced a mass literacy campaign

  • PDPA introduced free medical care.

  • by the late 1980s, half the university students were women, and women made up 40 per cent of Afghanistan’s doctors, 70 per cent of its teachers and 30 per cent of its civil servants.

Yes, things were looking positive for a while.

Then world powers had to ramp up their BDGs.

Were you trying to make a point with that comment?

The liberial democrats siding with the war hawks that there was never a good time for Afghanistan women

smh liberal Dems do not necessarily side with war hawks. That’s generally repugs.

They often do…

Very little of that ever took place – not because of any sabotage from the outside – but because most Afghans were against it. A lot of Westerners make the same mistake talking about Iran during that time.

Despite your lack of evidence or engagement in dialog, you’re right on this one. As Reps have gone further right, beyond conservative, Dems have moved the center, including making it easier for the Pentagon to get what they want, and keeping the big money of defense spending happy.

The photo is of the elite living in the patronage of the monarchy pre 1978.

That photo might be from before the communists took over, but most Afghans weren’t interested in the PDPA reforms either.

They wanted the king back :joy: