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Link please.

We know that Hamas that has occupied Gaza since 1987 apparently without any opposition by Gaza Palestinians.

HAMAS emerged in 1987 during the first Palestinian uprising, or intifada, as an outgrowth of the Muslim Brotherhood’s Palestinian branch. HAMAS has been the de facto governing body in the Gaza Strip since 2007, when it ousted the Palestinian Authority from power.

OPERATING AREAS
Primarily in the Gaza Strip; also maintains a presence in the West Bank; Palestinian refugee camps in Lebanon; and other regional locations, such as Egypt, Qatar, and Turkey.

It seems to me that Hamas is occupying Palestine.

In 2017, HAMAS amended its charter to remove a call for Israel’s destruction. Nonetheless, the group does not recognize Israel as a state and continues to advocate all forms of resistance against the country.

TACTICS AND TARGETS
HAMAS uses improvised explosive devices, short- and long-range rockets and mortars, small arms, RPGs, MANPADs, antitank missiles, unmanned aircraft systems, and an extensive system of tunnels within Gaza to advance attacks against Israeli military forces and civilians. The group also engages in cyber espionage, computer network exploitation, and kidnapping operations.

HAMAS uses hostage exchanges to gain concessions from the Israeli Government, including the release of high-value Palestinian prisoners from Israeli prisons.
https://www.dni.gov/nctc/ftos/hamas_fto.html

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Do you know what is the Hannibal directive ?

the Hannibal directive

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Yeah i am going to believe you. Joke

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That kind of confirms my observations, no?

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Okay, you’re telling me you don’t know that. You could have selected my text and searched it yourself. Instead, you search something that reinforces your own belief. A greater power occupying land and controlling the people is nothing like a government living there.

If you wish to remain willfully ignorant, I can’t help you.

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Everything confirms your observations. That’s the definition of a closed mind.

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I asked you for the link to become informed, not remain ignorant.

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I asked you to look it up because you take a crap on my links.

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How can that statement fit in the puzzle of Gaza?

Hamas took the reins in 2007.

Number one item for government is protein.

Hamas steals the protein from international aid organizations and sells it back at a jacked-up price.

97% of home water is unfit to drink.

Basally, electricity, food, water, safety, medical, education, transportation, and rules of laws have been lacking by Hamas.

What has Hamas done except claim that they will take control of all of Israel.

Unable to guarantee basic necessities for its citizens and popular support in the bucket. The combat orders for 10/7 were, “Kill as many people and take as many hostages as possible.”

The only thing Hamas has going is its revolutionary credentials. Hamas claims to be a nation of martyrs. Sacrificing martyrs is part of Hamas tactics.

The Biden administration has played into Hamas goals and keeps giving Hamas credibility.

This is war. Stop giving civilian combatants who want to kill Americans as much as the Israelis any peace.

Note: The Genocide Convention defines genocide as the intentional destruction of a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group. This can include:

  • Killing members of the group
  • Causing serious harm to members of the group
  • Deliberately inflicting conditions of life that lead to the group’s destruction

Answer the question. Is Israel trying to stop a genocide war against Israel?

On 16 October, an open letter signed by around 240 legal experts, including jurists and academics, declared the Hamas attack on 7 October 2023 as a “crime of genocide.”

Israel has been feeding and giving supplies to the genocidal Gaza. Israel needs safety for its people. That will not happen till the genocidal fractions attacking Israel are removed.

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W4u doesnt deal with objective facts . He is a revisionist of history to fit his pro zionist agenda

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What are you talking about? I agree with mike on this point.
This is what I posted:

HAMAS emerged in 1987 during the first Palestinian uprising, or intifada, as an outgrowth of the Muslim Brotherhood’s Palestinian branch. HAMAS has been the de facto governing body in the Gaza Strip since 2007, when it ousted the Palestinian Authority from power.
https://www.dni.gov/nctc/ftos/hamas_fto.html

Where does that not agree with what mike posted?

Try reading my posts and verify them against the links I provide.

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frankrizzo said:
What has Hamas done except claim that they will take Israel?

Exactly, it is Hamas that is the occupier of Palestine and wants to occupy Israel.

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We agree. What I was after was your view on the type of government Hamas has used to control of Gaza. Compared to the type of government that the Gazans think they have.

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HAMAS has “occupied” Gaza and been the de facto governing body in the Gaza Strip since 2007, when it ousted the Palestinian Authority from power by force.

Israel is not at war with Palestine. It is at war with HAMAS!

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Pay attention. Mike said that

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Israel is at war with hamas (the Knesset says - all palestinians are hamas as well as all pro Palestinian activist ) at war with lebonese people, at war with syrian people, at war with iranians and at war with iraqis

Israel is a country of peace!! White equals black , peace means war yadda yadda yadda

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I wonder why. What country would be so stupid to go to war with half of the Middle East. Israelis are not stupid people.

HAMAS and Hezbollah (supported by all those countries are the stupid people. They keep trying to eradicate Israel and keep losing every time, because Israelis are not stupid people and enjoy the support of the US.

Maybe Israel wants to conquer the world, like Russia and Putin, no?

You are insane.

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Yes. Hamas is an Islamist militant movement. Islamist is a religious group of 1.9 billion people. God has no country boarders.

AI Overview - Yes, Muslims believe that the earth belongs to God. The Quran says, “It is He who has appointed you vicegerent on the earth” (Quran 6:165).

Hamas is just following what they are told is God’s will.

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My viewpoint of the Gaza conflict.
Brothers of same ethnic DNA background. Praying to the same God using non-contemporaneous traditions of different contexts for rightest interpretations of strict religious laws.
While both engaged in historical denialism and historical falsification. While tasked with fulfilling the basic and complex needs as laid out in Maslow’s hierarchy and the fundamental basic survival needs in competition and collaborating with political entities.