Not talling about barr. Talking about the media responsibility to investigate, holding people to account and finding out the truth.
I hold my breath that this will happen as the oligarchs connected with epstein must be protected. Or are oligarchs only in Russia for you Timb??
<p style=“padding-left: 40px;”>"I don’t want to send your vulnerable psyche into the spin cycle, @player, but not every single thing is like “the run up to iraq war [sic].”</p>
<p style=“padding-left: 40px;”>It does when it challenges the establishment.</p>
<p style=“padding-left: 40px;”>Why else would you think the corporate media will rather support trump over hernie</p>
One thing that demonstrates intelligence and wisdom, @Player, is knowing a bit about how jobs work, and how the world works, before criticizing.
Not talling about barr. Talking about the media responsibility to investigate, holding people to account and finding out the truth.I'm sure the media outlets ARE investigating. But they may not "crack the case" for a year or more.
Epstein was found dead August 10. That was 3 days ago. I realize that on TV shows, all the facts are uncovered in an hour (less commercials). In real life, an investigation like this takes months, maybe over a year, and journalists don’t have magical access to the kinds of “evidence” investigators do.
So do you think they should not have reported on Epstein’s death until then? Wouldn’t you be complaining that they were hiding his death from the public?
You don’t read investigative reports very carefully anyway. If you did, you’d know the “Russia collusion” wasn’t as simple as you made it, and hasn’t actually been debunked.
You just want to complain, and any idiot can do that.
Why else would you think the corporate media will rather support trump over hernieWhy, pray tell, do you believe "the corporate media" supports Trump for 2020?
:I’m sure the media outlets ARE investigating"
You sure they are with those op eds??
"You don’t read investigative reports very carefully anyway. If you did, you’d know the “Russia collusion” wasn’t as simple as you made it, and hasn’t actually been debunked.:
Speaking of idiots, your epistemology seems to be believe everything until it has been proven false. At least thats what appears here when you use the words not dunked rather than saying Russian collision has been proven.
Thats an extremely dodgy pathway to truth. I hope its was not reflected in your professional career.
I’m thinking of teaching my cat to high five.
Why, pray tell, do you believe “the corporate media” supports Trump for 2020
Are you that much of a doofus to believe the corporate media is neutral on the policies bernie is championing??
I’m thinking of teaching my cat to high five.That seems a better way to spend your time than being on this thread.
You sure they are with those op eds??Which op eds?
Do you know what an op ed is?
Are you that much of a doofus to believe the corporate media is neutral on the policies bernie is championing??Are you that much of a doofus to believe "the corporate media" supports Trump?
I hope its was not reflected in your professional career.I have no reason to think you have ever had a career, professional or otherwise, so I'm not sure why you think I care.
the ones i gave from the wsws.
WOW! so this is the foundation of your epistemology . You have some real issues.
“Are you that much of a doofus to believe “the corporate media” supports Trump?”
why the strawman? I said trump over bernie
the ones i gave from the wsws.You mean the ones Patrick Martin wrote about on the World Socialist Web, and you copied and pasted here hoping we would think you wrote it?
why the strawman? I said trump over bernieYou are using "strawman" incorrectly. And I don't see Trump being supported over anyone
WOW! so this is the foundation of your epistemology ....Speaking of idiots, your epistemology seems to be believe everythingYou are using "epistemology" incorrectly. You don't understand what it means.
You saw me use it earlier, so you are just pasting it. You aren’t very smart. At all.
Are you an adult? I mean, like over 16? I just realized I could be debating with a kid, and don’t want to be mean.
Dodgewell. You really are fake news.
And when the bias is called out, boy do they know how to cry
Bernie Sanders
“Do I think Jeff Bezos is on the phone, telling the editor of The Washington Post what to do? Absolutely not. It doesn’t work that way,” he said. Then he continued his attack: "But what I think is in media, in general, there is a framework, New York Times operates under, The Washington Post operates under, CNN operates under, for example, I’ve been in politics for a few years. You know what? Not one reporter has ever asked me, ‘Bernie? What are you going to do about the grotesque level of income and wealth inequality?’
Are you an adult? I mean, like over 16? I just realized I could be debating with a kid, and don’t want to be mean.Besides the insults, the lack of apostrophes and capitalization, and the non sequiturs, there just isn't much logic or understanding of basic law or procedure. I can predict the next thing he, or it, will say. I have no expectation of self-reflection or any clarifying questions. If I were writing a book and wanted a troll character, I would write posts just like these.
The problem for Sanders, Trump and politics more generally is that many of the people who hear things like this from them don't know better. They actually believe there is some sort of conspiracy between corporate America and the news media. And when politicians -- whether they are Sanders, Trump or anyone else in either party -- stoke that sentiment, that's dangerous. And bad for democracy. Full stop.Hey, @Player, thanks for posting this! It reminds me of my OP.
So … let’s say there actually IS a conspiracy between corporate America and the news media. How would that work, logistically…?
If I were writing a book and wanted a troll character, I would write posts just like these.
Seriously, he’s almost cartoonish … so stereotypical it could be someone pretending to be a troll.
But he is a spectacular example of how the Dunning–Kruger effect works.
Oh, and @Player, since you had sort of asked for me to reframe my OP as a distinct question, and since the topic of my OP was specifically mentioned in the article you linked, I look forward to actually reading your answer.
if he chooses to offer one . . .
if he chooses to offer one . . .I'm on pins and needles.
So @Player
Let’s say somebody did rub Jeffrey Epstein out to “keep him from talking.”
Why is it more likely to have been Clinton than Trump?