Homeschooling mother "debunks" evolution

You may have already seen this segment on YouTube but if you haven’t it’s worth a check to see how those in the Evangelical bubble think, or don’t think rather about the facts.BTW, I’ve seen this exibit several times and it is very well displayed with detailed explanations. “How did the fins fall off of fish and they developed feet”? " How could we know that when we weren’t there"? Sound familiar? And she is passing this idiocy on to her children. Now that IS child abuse.

Cap’t Jack

You may have already seen this segment on YouTube but if you haven't it's worth a check to see how those in the Evangelical bubble think, or don't think rather about the facts.BTW, I've seen this exibit several times and it is very well displayed with detailed explanations. "How did the fins fall off of fish and they developed feet"? " How could we know that when we weren't there"? Sound familiar? And she is passing this idiocy on to her children. Now that IS child abuse. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2014/11/26/creationist-mother-debunks-evolution-exhibit-at-chicagos-field-museum-heres-how-you-should-respond/ Cap't Jack
Wow! Those poor kids of hers are not likely to be headed for higher education. At the least they will have a rude awakening if they try. It is detrimental to them and she should be prosecuted for educational neglect.

You would think that if parents are gong to be allowed to home school their kids there should be some basic curriculum they have to cover and testing should be done to make sure their kids are being taught basic reading, math and science skills including important topics like evolution. Its a scary thing that the future citizens of this country are not going to be prepared to live in the world they will inherit.
Its interesting that if you go to her YouTube channel comments are disabled for this video. Either things got pretty hot over there or she isn’t up for a little intellectual discussion.

You may have already seen this segment on YouTube but if you haven't it's worth a check to see how those in the Evangelical bubble think, or don't think rather about the facts.BTW, I've seen this exibit several times and it is very well displayed with detailed explanations. "How did the fins fall off of fish and they developed feet"? " How could we know that when we weren't there"? Sound familiar? And she is passing this idiocy on to her children. Now that IS child abuse. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2014/11/26/creationist-mother-debunks-evolution-exhibit-at-chicagos-field-museum-heres-how-you-should-respond/ Cap't Jack
I have a question for anti-evolutionists along the same lines. How did people become so stupid? Was it an evolutionary process or did an intelligent designer just zap them with it? Lois

The “intelligent designer” works in mysterious ways.

You would think that if parents are gong to be allowed to home school their kids there should be some basic curriculum they have to cover and testing should be done to make sure their kids are being taught basic reading, math and science skills including important topics like evolution. Its a scary thing that the future citizens of this country are not going to be prepared to live in the world they will inherit.
Unfortunately the regulations for homeschool education (if you can call it that) vary from state to state and require only the bare minimum of the basics so those people who choose to keep their children "safe" from dangerous ideas such as evolution are allowed to under the blanket of religious freedom. This is precisely why professional educators are totally opposed to homeschooling and there other reasons as well, e.g. Socialization skills. The kids are only allowed to associate with like minded peers and lack the ability to even understand the culture that surrounds them. They view it as hostile and foreign so they grow up in a bubble which is probably why the mother in the video shows her ignorance and hostility to the most basic elements of a normal middle school biology class. Also remember that these people vote and hold political offices. Scary thought. Cap't Jack
Unfortunately the regulations for homeschool education (if you can call it that) vary from state to state and require only the bare minimum of the basics so those people who choose to keep their children "safe" from dangerous ideas such as evolution are allowed to under the blanket of religious freedom. This is precisely why professional educators are totally opposed to homeschooling and there other reasons as well, e.g. Socialization skills. The kids are only allowed to associate with like minded peers and lack the ability to even understand the culture that surrounds them. They view it as hostile and foreign so they grow up in a bubble which is probably why the mother in the video shows her ignorance and hostility to the most basic elements of a normal middle school biology class. Also remember that these people vote and hold political offices. Scary thought. Cap't Jack
It is scary. We seem to be turning into an extremely partisan society lately and home schooling can only exacerbate the problem by isolating kids from a more diverse set of ideas. Keep this up and we'll end up country of extremists like the very societies we are fighting against now. TVG maybe you have some insight on charter schools. They are increasing in number here in NY but I don't know a lot about how they work and what rules govern them. Are they required to have the same curriculum as other public schools? Are they allowed to do religious education on premises? Do they have to allow students from all backgrounds or can they limit dmissions to people who share their views?
TVG maybe you have some insight on charter schools. They are increasing in number here in NY but I don’t know a lot about how they work and what rules govern them. Are they required to have the same curriculum as other public schools? Are they allowed to do religious education on premises? Do they have to allow students from all backgrounds or can they limit dmissions to people who share their views?
I'm not familiar with the rules for charter schools in Ny but I do know how the work here in Ohio so I'm assuming that there is a "standard" method of governance and performance for teachers and students. Here's a few points: 1,Curriculum standards are essentially the same as a public school and students are required to pass the OGT (Ohio Graduation test). 2. No religious instruction unless it relates to culture or history 3. Little or no emphasis on competitive sports. 4. All schools must have a sponsor approved by the Ohio Bd. Of Edu. 5. Schools are on a not-for-profit basis 6. Charter schools are open enrollment institutions with no discrimination allowed 7. No teacher's union and salary is negotiable 8. School day (hours of instruction) is flexible and may be expanded 9. Most of them employ E-classes as well and this concept is growing 10. The majority of charter schools are grouped around urban areas, e.g. We have none in our area which is predominately rural. Performance wise, some do very well while others lag behind the public schools in student performance but overall, and this is purely anecdotal, charter school students rate much higher on state tests than students from private, religious (especially the fundie ones) based schools. And of all the parochical school kids I've taught, those from the Catholic schools rate much higher than the evangelical schools. Cap't Jack

Thanks TVG. I had heard that kids from charter schools on the whole perform better but I have always wondered if they actually get better education there or if its just that parents who seek out charter schools are more involved in their children’s education and perhaps that leads to better outcomes. This is obviously not a randomized controlled experiment so there could be all sorts of obvious confounders there.

Thanks TVG. I had heard that kids from charter schools on the whole perform better but I have always wondered if they actually get better education there or if its just that parents who seek out charter schools are more involved in their children’s education and perhaps that leads to better outcomes. This is obviously not a randomized controlled experiment so there could be all sorts of obvious confounders there.
In reference to charter schools as opposed to public schools it all boils down to the expertise of the teacher, the availability of technology and an intelligent and positive administration. Some charter schools have a very high success rate due in part to parental involvement and exceptional instructors plus they can be more flexible than a public school with it's attendant headaches, e.g. Busing, skewed test scores for athletes, lack of community involvement, overworked teachers who now have to hassle with a ton of paperwork from various State and National programs plus, crumbling facilities because the local population won't pass a levy and absorb a tax whereas charter schools for the most part rely on sponsorship for funds. They also do receive some State funds with strings attached of course. Charter schools would definitely pull in more highly qualified teachers by raising the pay above that of public employees even though charter teachers participate in the State Teacher's Retirement System. I personally have no problem with charter schools so long as they don't leach funds from the public schools; some operate as an academy pumping out exceptional college bound students. Cap't Jack
Thanks TVG. I had heard that kids from charter schools on the whole perform better but I have always wondered if they actually get better education there or if its just that parents who seek out charter schools are more involved in their children's education and perhaps that leads to better outcomes. This is obviously not a randomized controlled experiment so there could be all sorts of obvious confounders there.
It also helps that they send low performing students back to public school.
You may have already seen this segment on YouTube but if you haven't it's worth a check to see how those in the Evangelical bubble think, or don't think rather about the facts.BTW, I've seen this exibit several times and it is very well displayed with detailed explanations. "How did the fins fall off of fish and they developed feet"? " How could we know that when we weren't there"? Sound familiar? And she is passing this idiocy on to her children. Now that IS child abuse. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2014/11/26/creationist-mother-debunks-evolution-exhibit-at-chicagos-field-museum-heres-how-you-should-respond/ Cap't Jack
Home schooling fits right in with the religious agenda of "control". It's not about school, it's about controlling their child's environment so they are not influenced with out of the religion information during their most easily absorbing years. Like every kind of indoctrination it takes being the only influence in order to succeed. Outside influences are minimized so that the child develops a personal reality different from the population. This ensures that all questions and concerns will flow through the source of indoctrination to be address in line with the acceptable teachings. They build fear and suspension on purpose so when the children go looking for answers they will seek them out within the safe group of like-minded people. Brainwashing. Should not be allowed, IMO. This is one of the reasons xtainity has such a grip on this country, child indoctrination. Religion should be allowed for adults BUT not allowed to teach it to children until 18. Just like porn is restricted for adults, so should religion be. MzL

These kids are going to be ill equipped to compete in with their peers. It so sad.