But not worry, the low fertility of feminists an other Leftoids won't allow them to do damage for much longer.Yup. :-) It's actually kinda sad. We'll never have the Star Trek universe, or Marx's society of workers, or Jesus's heaven on Earth, because we can either be primitive and have babies, or spend most of our fertile time getting PhDs and listening to Jazz.
But not worry, the low fertility of feminists an other Leftoids won't allow them to do damage for much longer.Yup. :-) It's actually kinda sad. We'll never have the Star Trek universe, or Marx's society of workers, or Jesus's heaven on Earth, because we can either be primitive and have babies, or spend most of our fertile time getting PhDs and listening to Jazz.Very true, but I think there is a pleasant middle ground.
Men are not biochemically suited for this behavior. Unless of course they're effeminate men, which means their women will leave them soon.Exactly right. All the guys I know whose wives have cheated on them are the ones who were the most eager to change dippers and iron their own shirts. Humanism (the baby communism) fails even on the smallest scale.
But not worry, the low fertility of feminists an other Leftoids won't allow them to do damage for much longer.Yup. :-) It's actually kinda sad. We'll never have the Star Trek universe, or Marx's society of workers, or Jesus's heaven on Earth, because we can either be primitive and have babies, or spend most of our fertile time getting PhDs and listening to Jazz.Very true, but I think there is a pleasant middle ground. Sure, but it doesn't last. The world (Europe and then Eastern Asia) changed around 1850 and will see its end in a couple of hundred years.
Men are not biochemically suited for this behavior. Unless of course they're effeminate men, which means their women will leave them soon.Exactly right. All the guys I know whose wife have cheated on them are the ones who were the most eager to change dippers and iron their own shirts. Humanism (the baby communism) fails even on the smallest scale.I've noticed that as well. Gender equality only works for those who lack a sex drive. I feel this especially, because almost everything my generation has been taught about male - female relations is BS. Self defeating BS propagated by the loser baby boomer generation. I'm lucky my childhood happened the way it did, so I was able to learn the reality of the situation before most of my peers.
But not worry, the low fertility of feminists an other Leftoids won't allow them to do damage for much longer.Yup. :-) It's actually kinda sad. We'll never have the Star Trek universe, or Marx's society of workers, or Jesus's heaven on Earth, because we can either be primitive and have babies, or spend most of our fertile time getting PhDs and listening to Jazz.Very true, but I think there is a pleasant middle ground. Sure, but it doesn't last. The world (Europe and then Eastern Asia) changed around 1850 and will see its end in a couple of hundred years.Such is life, right? :-S
... Men are not biochemically suited for this behavior. Unless of course they're effeminate men, which means their women will leave them soon.Yours and George's perspective on this is better suited to a pre-industrial society with a small population of humans. Too bad for you that society is unlikely to regress that much in your lifetime. Oh, and in the actual world that exists today (not your fantasy of a world where all humans are driven exclusively by their levels of testosterone or androgen) there are all sorts of pairings of mates. A high level of testosterone isn't sufficient of itself (unless it is at toxic levels) to prevent a real man from bonding with his children and being a competent caregiver. Men who have testosterone toxicity aren't much use to anyone, except maybe as cannon fodder. http://www.oocities.org/musician_in_residence/testosterone.html
... Humanism (the baby communism) fails even on the smallest scale.There you go with "communism" again. Paranoia strikes deep. And you figure that Humanism is doomed because changing gender roles will lead to macho men spreading their seed more than men who take on some traditionally female roles, which will, in turn lead to the production of more macho men. 2 problems with this: 1) birth control is really easy these days 2) a macho man is not guaranteed to produce macho children.
No. Humanism, feminism, communism will always fail because they are incompatible with human nature.
Yours and George's perspective on this is better suited to a pre-industrial society with a small population of humans. Too bad for you that society is unlikely to regress that much in your lifetime.I don't know about George, but my perspective hasn't hindered me.
Oh, and in the actual world that exists today (not your fantasy of a world where all humans are driven exclusively by their levels of testosterone or androgen) there are all sorts of pairings of mates.There have always been various pairings of mates, but the traditional male-female sexual dynamic hasn't gone anywhere.
A high level of testosterone isn't sufficient of itself (unless it is at toxic levels) to prevent a real man from bonding with his children and being a competent caregiver.Never said that was the case.
Men who have testosterone toxicity aren't much use to anyone, except maybe as cannon fodder. http://www.oocities.org/musician_in_residence/testosterone.htmlThe guy from MASH? Why does his opinion matter?
Men are not biochemically suited for this behavior. Unless of course they're effeminate men, which means their women will leave them soon.Exactly right. All the guys I know whose wives have cheated on them are the ones who were the most eager to change dippers and iron their own shirts. Humanism (the baby communism) fails even on the smallest scale. Confirmation bias. And you obviously don't have a clue as to what humanism is. You've created a straw man argument, which means you have no argument. You can't argue any actual points, so you create something you think you can argue against. A cowardly tactic. Lois
Again you need to back up your comments with data which you have repeatedly failed to do.It's in the PDF I linked to earlier. It is you and the rest of the those who claim that employers discriminate against women just because they are women who need to back it back with evidence. Your study where the participants self report their numbers and where women are represented twice as much as men doesn't prove anything. You need to brush up on your math skills George. It doesn't matter whether there ar more men then women when you are averaging the numbers. The study was actually a pretty good one and I don;t understand your implication that one sex was more likely to lie about their income than the other. There is no evidence for that. As far as you PDF I also explained that its no up to us to read that 95 page document. If you think there is something in there that supports your argument site the page and the data. iam not going to do your homework for you
Men are not biochemically suited for this behavior. Unless of course they're effeminate men, which means their women will leave them soon.Exactly right. All the guys I know whose wives have cheated on them are the ones who were the most eager to change dippers and iron their own shirts. Humanism (the baby communism) fails even on the smallest scale. Confirmation bias. And you obviously don't have a clue as to what humanism is. You've created a straw man argument, which means you have no argument. You can't argue any actual points, so you create something you think you can argue against. A cowardly tactic. Lois You forgot to mention that George and Mid Atlantic have insulted every man whose wife has a successful career. My wife probably makes more money than both those pinheads combined. They've told me I suffer from low testosterone and my wife cheats on me. They obviously have no clue what they're asking about yet they yammer on as if they have some great insight into humanity. Problem is they are wrong. I have several friends whose wives are the principal breadwinners in the household. Not one of us has low testosterone. None of our wives has cheated on us. We are all comfortable with our roles and proud of our wives. Pinhead is too kind a word for George and MA, but I do not want to get kicked off these forums telling them what I really think about them. Yeah guys, I took this one personally.
Quite true, Darron. One is not allowed to use words like moronic asshole. :lol:
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You need to join the 21st Century, George. That worldview is outdated.So which world view is the zeitgeist du jour? Feminism? Thanks, but I'll pass. I think it is you who has a problem and should probably treat it with some testosterone supplements. The fact is that women who are not married and never had a child (IOW, those who choose a career over being a mom, or at least up to the point of becoming a mom) actually make more money than single men. The rest of them simply work less and choose lower-paying jobs. No mystery here. Go take that pill. Lets see your evidence that single women earn more than men across the board. You just can't pull statistics out of your behind, caLl, them "facts" and expect them to carry any weight. Show us multiple scientifically gathered statistics that show that single women as a class earn more than men. Lois
Men are not biochemically suited for this behavior. Unless of course they're effeminate men, which means their women will leave them soon.Exactly right. All the guys I know whose wife have cheated on them are the ones who were the most eager to change dippers and iron their own shirts. Humanism (the baby communism) fails even on the smallest scale.I've noticed that as well. Gender equality only works for those who lack a sex drive. I feel this especially, because almost everything my generation has been taught about male - female relations is BS. Self defeating BS propagated by the loser baby boomer generation. I'm lucky my childhood happened the way it did, so I was able to learn the reality of the situation before most of my peers. Do you mean BS such as that single women earn more than men? Is that the kind of self defeating BS you mean? Your childhood evidently made you a dupe but you've been too duped to see it. Lois
... Men are not biochemically suited for this behavior. Unless of course they're effeminate men, which means their women will leave them soon.Yours and George's perspective on this is better suited to a pre-industrial society with a small population of humans. Too bad for you that society is unlikely to regress that much in your lifetime. Oh, and in the actual world that exists today (not your fantasy of a world where all humans are driven exclusively by their levels of testosterone or androgen) there are all sorts of pairings of mates. A high level of testosterone isn't sufficient of itself (unless it is at toxic levels) to prevent a real man from bonding with his children and being a competent caregiver. Men who have testosterone toxicity aren't much use to anyone, except maybe as cannon fodder. http://www.oocities.org/musician_in_residence/testosterone.html Actually what MidAtlantic and George's perspective is better suited to is an uneducated, mentally compromised society. It's so much easier to "understand" things if you leave out all the complicated factors and run with raw emotion. Works every time. Strung out beggars on streetcorners use the same method.
Quite true, Darron. One is not allowed to use words like moronic asshole. :lol: OccamThat is still quite a bit more polite than I was thinking. :coolgrin:
Men are not biochemically suited for this behavior. Unless of course they're effeminate men, which means their women will leave them soon.Exactly right. All the guys I know whose wives have cheated on them are the ones who were the most eager to change dippers and iron their own shirts. Humanism (the baby communism) fails even on the smallest scale. Confirmation bias. And you obviously don't have a clue as to what humanism is. You've created a straw man argument, which means you have no argument. You can't argue any actual points, so you create something you think you can argue against. A cowardly tactic. Lois You forgot to mention that George and Mid Atlantic have insulted every man whose wife has a successful career. My wife probably makes more money than both those pinheads combined. They've told me I suffer from low testosterone and my wife cheats on me. They obviously have no clue what they're asking about yet they yammer on as if they have some great insight into humanity. Problem is they are wrong. I have several friends whose wives are the principal breadwinners in the household. Not one of us has low testosterone. None of our wives has cheated on us. We are all comfortable with our roles and proud of our wives. Pinhead is too kind a word for George and MA, but I do not want to get kicked off these forums telling them what I really think about them. Yeah guys, I took this one personally. If you took it that personally....maybe else something is going on there. Just saying, hoss!
No. Humanism, feminism, communism will always fail because they are incompatible with human nature.You generalize from a seed of truth to create a grand distorted worldview that is grossly untrue. You forget that humans have been uniquely provided by nature and cultural development with adaptability. And included in that adaptability is an ability to modulate some of our baser instincts (at least for some of us).