Choosing a 2014-2015 flu vaccine

Whether you believe the Richet allergy model or not, you may want to drink cocoa for a month after receiving a vaccination.
A diet enriched with cocoa prevents IgE synthesis in a rat allergy model.

Mriana, you are probably thinking of the VIS or Vaccine Information Statement. These are standard documents we are required to provide to patients before giving a vaccine. The VIS for the DTaP vaccine is available here for review (http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/vis/vis-statements/dtap.pdf) A full list of Vaccine Information Statements for other vaccines can be found here: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/vis/
If you look at the DTaP VIS, there are many references to allergic reactions. Clearly, the DTaP vaccines contain many allergens (casein, yeast, Polysorbate 80 etc.) otherwise an allergic reaction is not possible. As I have described before, it takes less allergen to cause sensitization (healthy person developing a new allergy) than it does to cause elicitation (an already allergic person having an allergic reaction to an allergen). Even though they have listed a 1 in a million chance of having a severe allergic reaction (elicitation), a number for the probability of DEVELOPING an allergy (sensitization) is conspicuously absent. The VIS also says: "These problems occur more often after the 4th and 5th doses of the DTaP series than after earlier doses. Sometimes the 4th or 5th dose of DTaP vaccine is followed by swelling of the entire arm or leg in which the shot was given, lasting 1–7 days (up to about 1 child in 30) " This makes sense in that one would expect that as more allergen and viral proteins are injected there is more and more sensitization. After 4th or the 5th doses, the probability of a reaction that involves an entire arm or leg is expected to be higher. Further, all DTaP contain aluminum based adjuvants. This boosts the immune response and increases the risk of healthy people developing an allergy to allergens present in the vaccine but still the VIS does not contain a warning of this possibility. This study shows there was NOT enough gelatin in DTaP to cause an allergic reaction. But that same amount was enough to cause healthy people to DEVELOP gelatin allergy. Nakayama T, Aizawa C, Kuno-Sakai H. A clinical analysis of gelatin allergy and determination of its causal relationship to the previous administration of gelatin-containing acellular pertussis vaccine combined with diphtheria and tetanus toxoids. J Allergy Clin Immunol 1999;103:321–5. And this study shows 1 out 10 people developed egg allergy from the flu vaccine but NONE of them had an allergic reaction. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2249232/pdf/epidinfect00008-0113.pdf Begs the question, why still no warning in the VIS when the problem has been known for decades?
And this study shows 1 out 10 people developed egg allergy from the flu vaccine but NONE of them had an allergic reaction. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2249232/pdf/epidinfect00008-0113.pdf
The thing is, some of the 1 out of 10, such as myself, already had the egg allergy. Because of this, I've never had a flu vaccine and every doctor I've talked to will not give me the flu shot because of it. I've been trying to explain this to you, but you still seem to have the idea that people would not have such an allergy if not for vaccines. It wasn't vaccines that caused any of my allergies and to think vaccines causes all such allergies is a misconception/misunderstanding of such statements. I think you not only misunderstand the statement, but are under a misconception that the shot caused the allergy. Not everyone who has an egg allergy has had the vaccine and the vaccine isn't necessarily the cause of the allergy. Despite that, you still attempt to insist that it was vaccines that caused my own egg allergy, when it wasn't, and when I attempt to explain it to you, you attempt to blame other vaccines that have nothing to do with egg allergies, much less the timing of my first reaction to eggs. Genetics was indeed, without a doubt, the source of my allergies and I guess the only way to prove that to you would be to have you go back in time and observe my development, which is an impossibility. You cannot blame vaccines for everything, because they do not cause every single allergy. They might cause a reaction in some people, but they are not the cause of allergies.
And this study shows 1 out 10 people developed egg allergy from the flu vaccine but NONE of them had an allergic reaction. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2249232/pdf/epidinfect00008-0113.pdf
The thing is, some of the 1 out of 10, such as myself, already had the egg allergy. Because of this, I've never had a flu vaccine and every doctor I've talked to will not give me the flu shot because of it. I've been trying to explain this to you, but you still seem to have the idea that people would not have such an allergy if not for vaccines. It wasn't vaccines that caused any of my allergies and to think vaccines causes all such allergies is a misconception/misunderstanding of such statements. I think you not only misunderstand the statement, but are under a misconception that the shot caused the allergy. Not everyone who has an egg allergy has had the vaccine and the vaccine isn't necessarily the cause of the allergy. Despite that, you still attempt to insist that it was vaccines that caused my own egg allergy, when it wasn't, and when I attempt to explain it to you, you attempt to blame other vaccines that have nothing to do with egg allergies, much less the timing of my first reaction to eggs. Genetics was indeed, without a doubt, the source of my allergies and I guess the only way to prove that to you would be to have you go back in time and observe my development, which is an impossibility. You cannot blame vaccines for everything, because they do not cause every single allergy. They might cause a reaction in some people, but they are not the cause of allergies. "The thing is, some of the 1 out of 10, such as myself, already had the egg allergy." Not correct. In that study 26 people had egg allergies after vaccination. 10 of them DID NOT have allergy before vaccination and developed egg allergy post-vaccination. That clearly shows cause and effect. Of the 16 the people who had mild allergies before vaccination, some of them showed stronger allergies after vaccination, moving up one or two RAST classes. I don't think I ever claimed that vaccines are the ONLY cause of food allergies. They could be a common cause. They are a very efficient way of sensitizing people. As I wrote before, that is why scientists use exactly this same method to induce food allergy in lab mice. They inject food proteins along with alum as an adjuvant to reliably produce food allergy in mice. You said you were vaccinated in the late 60s? It is difficult to find the complete contents of vaccines even now. I am not sure if one can be very sure about the content of vaccines in the 60s ... Even if you did not get your allergy from vaccines, it does not prove that vaccines do not cause food allergy. As I have shown, there are multiple studies clearly demonstrating that vaccines are certainly A cause, not the only cause.

I found something interesting,
Pharmacol Res. 2012 Jun;65(6):603-8. doi: 10.1016/j.phrs.2012.02.001. Epub 2012 Feb 10.
A diet enriched with cocoa prevents IgE synthesis in a rat allergy model.
Abril-Gil M1, Massot-Cladera M, Pérez-Cano FJ, Castellote C, Franch A, Castell M.
Author information
Abstract
Previous studies in young rats reported the impact of cocoa intake on healthy immune status and allow suggesting it may have a role in the prevention of some immune-mediated diseases. The aim of this study was to ascertain the effect of a cocoa diet in a model of allergy in young rats. Three-week-old Brown Norway rats were immunized by i.p. injection of ovalbumin (OVA) with alum as adjuvant and Bordetella pertussis toxin. During the next 4 weeks rats received either a cocoa diet (containing 0.2% polyphenols, w/w) or a standard diet. Animals fed a standard diet showed high concentrations of anti-OVA IgG1, IgG2a, IgG2b and high anti-OVA IgE titres, which is the antibody involved in allergic response. In contrast, animals fed a cocoa diet showed significantly lower concentrations of anti-OVA IgG1 and IgG2a antibodies. Interestingly, the cocoa diet prevented anti-OVA IgE synthesis and decreased total serum IgE concentration. Analysis of cytokine production in lymph node cells at the end of the study revealed that, in this compartment, the cocoa diet decreased the tumor necrosis factor (TNF)-α and the interleukin (IL)-10 secretion but not IL-4 production. In conclusion, a cocoa-enriched diet in young rats produces an immunomodulatory effect that prevents anti-allergen IgE synthesis, suggesting a potential role for cocoa flavonoids in the prevention or treatment of allergic diseases.
Copyright © 2012 Elsevier Ltd. All rights reserved.
PMID: 22342543 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
The whole article is here
diposit.ub.edu/dspace/bitstream/2445/33013/1/614291.pdf
Lois

And this study shows 1 out 10 people developed egg allergy from the flu vaccine but NONE of them had an allergic reaction. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2249232/pdf/epidinfect00008-0113.pdf
The thing is, some of the 1 out of 10, such as myself, already had the egg allergy. Because of this, I've never had a flu vaccine and every doctor I've talked to will not give me the flu shot because of it. I've been trying to explain this to you, but you still seem to have the idea that people would not have such an allergy if not for vaccines. It wasn't vaccines that caused any of my allergies and to think vaccines causes all such allergies is a misconception/misunderstanding of such statements. I think you not only misunderstand the statement, but are under a misconception that the shot caused the allergy. Not everyone who has an egg allergy has had the vaccine and the vaccine isn't necessarily the cause of the allergy. Despite that, you still attempt to insist that it was vaccines that caused my own egg allergy, when it wasn't, and when I attempt to explain it to you, you attempt to blame other vaccines that have nothing to do with egg allergies, much less the timing of my first reaction to eggs. Genetics was indeed, without a doubt, the source of my allergies and I guess the only way to prove that to you would be to have you go back in time and observe my development, which is an impossibility. You cannot blame vaccines for everything, because they do not cause every single allergy. They might cause a reaction in some people, but they are not the cause of allergies. "The thing is, some of the 1 out of 10, such as myself, already had the egg allergy." Not correct. In that study 26 people had egg allergies after vaccination. 10 of them DID NOT have allergy before vaccination and developed egg allergy post-vaccination. That clearly shows cause and effect. Of the 16 the people who had mild allergies before vaccination, some of them showed stronger allergies after vaccination, moving up one or two RAST classes. I don't think I ever claimed that vaccines are the ONLY cause of food allergies. They could be a common cause. They are a very efficient way of sensitizing people. As I wrote before, that is why scientists use exactly this same method to induce food allergy in lab mice. They inject food proteins along with alum as an adjuvant to reliably produce food allergy in mice. You said you were vaccinated in the late 60s? It is difficult to find the complete contents of vaccines even now. I am not sure if one can be very sure about the content of vaccines in the 60s ... Even if you did not get your allergy from vaccines, it does not prove that vaccines do not cause food allergy. As I have shown, there are multiple studies clearly demonstrating that vaccines are certainly A cause, not the only cause. You sound as though you want to blame food allergies on vaccines, but thing is, there were food allergies before we had all the vaccines we do now. My mother, born in 1944, is allergic to strawberries, as well as other things that I am allergic to also. She came home from the hospital, shortly after birth with Whooping Cough and managed to survive it, but there weren't the number of vaccines like there are today. Not to mention, many of my relatives get migraines, most often triggered by preservatives in food- ie hot dogs, luncheon meats, ham, etc. Again, their food sensitivities were not caused by vaccines, but rather genetics, so I can honestly say mine were not caused by vaccines too and I was well vaccinated and share the same allergies as the rest of my family born generations before me.
I found something interesting, Pharmacol Res. 2012 Jun;65(6):603-8. doi: 10.1016/j.phrs.2012.02.001. Epub 2012 Feb 10. A diet enriched with cocoa prevents IgE synthesis in a rat allergy model. Abril-Gil M1, Massot-Cladera M, Pérez-Cano FJ, Castellote C, Franch A, Castell M. Author information Abstract Previous studies in young rats reported the impact of cocoa intake on healthy immune status and allow suggesting it may have a role in the prevention of some immune-mediated diseases. The aim of this study was to ascertain the effect of a cocoa diet in a model of allergy in young rats. Three-week-old Brown Norway rats were immunized by i.p. injection of ovalbumin (OVA) with alum as adjuvant and Bordetella pertussis toxin. During the next 4 weeks rats received either a cocoa diet (containing 0.2% polyphenols, w/w) or a standard diet. Animals fed a standard diet showed high concentrations of anti-OVA IgG1, IgG2a, IgG2b and high anti-OVA IgE titres, which is the antibody involved in allergic response. In contrast, animals fed a cocoa diet showed significantly lower concentrations of anti-OVA IgG1 and IgG2a antibodies. Interestingly, the cocoa diet prevented anti-OVA IgE synthesis and decreased total serum IgE concentration. Analysis of cytokine production in lymph node cells at the end of the study revealed that, in this compartment, the cocoa diet decreased the tumor necrosis factor (TNF)-α and the interleukin (IL)-10 secretion but not IL-4 production. In conclusion, a cocoa-enriched diet in young rats produces an immunomodulatory effect that prevents anti-allergen IgE synthesis, suggesting a potential role for cocoa flavonoids in the prevention or treatment of allergic diseases. Copyright © 2012 Elsevier Ltd. All rights reserved. PMID: 22342543 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] The whole article is here diposit.ub.edu/dspace/bitstream/2445/33013/1/614291.pdf Lois
Good to see that you found it interesting too. I posted a link to this study a few days back (post #180 http://www.centerforinquiry.net/forums/viewreply/202750/). Obviously cocoa protecting against allergy is the matter that will interest most people. There is also something else very interesting in this study. Scientists experiment on rats because most of what is learned is applicable to humans. So let us look at the details of how egg allergy was induced in the rats. The rats were immunized with bordetella pertussis toxins with alum as an adjuvant along with egg protein as an allergen. In other words, the rats received a PERTUSSIS VACCINE. The human pertussis vaccine DTaP contains bordetella pertussis toxins with alum (aluminum phosphate) as an adjuvant along with allergens that include casein, various vegetable oils (Polysorbate 80), yeast etc. depending on the vaccine maker. What do you expect will happen to people receiving this vaccine? The mechanism used to induce food allergy in rats is so common and reliable that the authors just take it for granted. If this study is an indicator of what cocoa does to people, it is also equally an indicator of what allergen proteins in vaccines do to people. So I hope people will choose their vaccines very carefully and not forget to drink their cocoa for a month post-vaccination ...
And this study shows 1 out 10 people developed egg allergy from the flu vaccine but NONE of them had an allergic reaction. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2249232/pdf/epidinfect00008-0113.pdf
The thing is, some of the 1 out of 10, such as myself, already had the egg allergy. Because of this, I've never had a flu vaccine and every doctor I've talked to will not give me the flu shot because of it. I've been trying to explain this to you, but you still seem to have the idea that people would not have such an allergy if not for vaccines. It wasn't vaccines that caused any of my allergies and to think vaccines causes all such allergies is a misconception/misunderstanding of such statements. I think you not only misunderstand the statement, but are under a misconception that the shot caused the allergy. Not everyone who has an egg allergy has had the vaccine and the vaccine isn't necessarily the cause of the allergy. Despite that, you still attempt to insist that it was vaccines that caused my own egg allergy, when it wasn't, and when I attempt to explain it to you, you attempt to blame other vaccines that have nothing to do with egg allergies, much less the timing of my first reaction to eggs. Genetics was indeed, without a doubt, the source of my allergies and I guess the only way to prove that to you would be to have you go back in time and observe my development, which is an impossibility. You cannot blame vaccines for everything, because they do not cause every single allergy. They might cause a reaction in some people, but they are not the cause of allergies. "The thing is, some of the 1 out of 10, such as myself, already had the egg allergy." Not correct. In that study 26 people had egg allergies after vaccination. 10 of them DID NOT have allergy before vaccination and developed egg allergy post-vaccination. That clearly shows cause and effect. Of the 16 the people who had mild allergies before vaccination, some of them showed stronger allergies after vaccination, moving up one or two RAST classes. I don't think I ever claimed that vaccines are the ONLY cause of food allergies. They could be a common cause. They are a very efficient way of sensitizing people. As I wrote before, that is why scientists use exactly this same method to induce food allergy in lab mice. They inject food proteins along with alum as an adjuvant to reliably produce food allergy in mice. You said you were vaccinated in the late 60s? It is difficult to find the complete contents of vaccines even now. I am not sure if one can be very sure about the content of vaccines in the 60s ... Even if you did not get your allergy from vaccines, it does not prove that vaccines do not cause food allergy. As I have shown, there are multiple studies clearly demonstrating that vaccines are certainly A cause, not the only cause. You sound as though you want to blame food allergies on vaccines, but thing is, there were food allergies before we had all the vaccines we do now. My mother, born in 1944, is allergic to strawberries, as well as other things that I am allergic to also. She came home from the hospital, shortly after birth with Whooping Cough and managed to survive it, but there weren't the number of vaccines like there are today. Not to mention, many of my relatives get migraines, most often triggered by preservatives in food- ie hot dogs, luncheon meats, ham, etc. Again, their food sensitivities were not caused by vaccines, but rather genetics, so I can honestly say mine were not caused by vaccines too and I was well vaccinated and share the same allergies as the rest of my family born generations before me. You can't mix food intolerances with food allergies. Food allergies (Type I IgE mediated immediate type hypersensitivity) is not genetic. You can be genetically predisposed to developing it but you cannot be born with it. You need a sensitizing event like an insect bite or an injection. Maybe food intolerances are genetically transferred, I don't know. As I have stated before, vaccines are a cause of Type I IgE mediated immediate type hypersensitivity allergies but not the only cause. For example, ticks feed on cattle/deer and when they bite humans, they cause red meat allergy. If your mother lived near strawberry fields, insects that fed on strawberries could have bitten her giving her strawberry allergy. I am not just blaming food allergies on vaccines. I have provided clear evidence demonstrating that vaccines are A cause.
You can't mix food intolerances with food allergies. Food allergies (Type I IgE mediated immediate type hypersensitivity) is not genetic. You can be genetically predisposed to developing it but you cannot be born with it. You need a sensitizing event like an insect bite or an injection. Maybe food intolerances are genetically transferred, I don't know. As I have stated before, vaccines are a cause of Type I IgE mediated immediate type hypersensitivity allergies but not the only cause. For example, ticks feed on cattle/deer and when they bite humans, they cause red meat allergy. If your mother lived near strawberry fields, insects that fed on strawberries could have bitten her giving her strawberry allergy. I am not just blaming food allergies on vaccines. I have provided clear evidence demonstrating that vaccines are A cause.
I don't know if she grew up near a strawberry field or not. As far as I know she did not, but she's is also allergic to yellow jackets. One sting caused her to go to the ER when I was little, but the thing is, I still think your info is a bit mixed up and there is a definite genetic component to allergies.
You can't mix food intolerances with food allergies. Food allergies (Type I IgE mediated immediate type hypersensitivity) is not genetic. You can be genetically predisposed to developing it but you cannot be born with it. You need a sensitizing event like an insect bite or an injection. Maybe food intolerances are genetically transferred, I don't know. As I have stated before, vaccines are a cause of Type I IgE mediated immediate type hypersensitivity allergies but not the only cause. For example, ticks feed on cattle/deer and when they bite humans, they cause red meat allergy. If your mother lived near strawberry fields, insects that fed on strawberries could have bitten her giving her strawberry allergy. I am not just blaming food allergies on vaccines. I have provided clear evidence demonstrating that vaccines are A cause.
I don't know if she grew up near a strawberry field or not. As far as I know she did not, but she's is also allergic to yellow jackets. One sting caused her to go to the ER when I was little, but the thing is, I still think your info is a bit mixed up and there is a definite genetic component to allergies. If you are stung by an yellow jacket, it should not be surprising that you become sensitized and will have an allergic reaction on a subsequent sting. I agreed that you can be genetically predisposed to developing IgE but you cannot be born with a specific IgE mediated allergy as far as I know. If you find otherwise, please post the study.
I found something interesting, Pharmacol Res. 2012 Jun;65(6):603-8. doi: 10.1016/j.phrs.2012.02.001. Epub 2012 Feb 10. A diet enriched with cocoa prevents IgE synthesis in a rat allergy model. Abril-Gil M1, Massot-Cladera M, Pérez-Cano FJ, Castellote C, Franch A, Castell M. Author information Abstract Previous studies in young rats reported the impact of cocoa intake on healthy immune status and allow suggesting it may have a role in the prevention of some immune-mediated diseases. The aim of this study was to ascertain the effect of a cocoa diet in a model of allergy in young rats. Three-week-old Brown Norway rats were immunized by i.p. injection of ovalbumin (OVA) with alum as adjuvant and Bordetella pertussis toxin. During the next 4 weeks rats received either a cocoa diet (containing 0.2% polyphenols, w/w) or a standard diet. Animals fed a standard diet showed high concentrations of anti-OVA IgG1, IgG2a, IgG2b and high anti-OVA IgE titres, which is the antibody involved in allergic response. In contrast, animals fed a cocoa diet showed significantly lower concentrations of anti-OVA IgG1 and IgG2a antibodies. Interestingly, the cocoa diet prevented anti-OVA IgE synthesis and decreased total serum IgE concentration. Analysis of cytokine production in lymph node cells at the end of the study revealed that, in this compartment, the cocoa diet decreased the tumor necrosis factor (TNF)-α and the interleukin (IL)-10 secretion but not IL-4 production. In conclusion, a cocoa-enriched diet in young rats produces an immunomodulatory effect that prevents anti-allergen IgE synthesis, suggesting a potential role for cocoa flavonoids in the prevention or treatment of allergic diseases. Copyright © 2012 Elsevier Ltd. All rights reserved. PMID: 22342543 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] The whole article is here diposit.ub.edu/dspace/bitstream/2445/33013/1/614291.pdf Lois
Good to see that you found it interesting too. I posted a link to this study a few days back (post #180 http://www.centerforinquiry.net/forums/viewreply/202750/). Obviously cocoa protecting against allergy is the matter that will interest most people. There is also something else very interesting in this study. Scientists experiment on rats because most of what is learned is applicable to humans. So let us look at the details of how egg allergy was induced in the rats. The rats were immunized with bordetella pertussis toxins with alum as an adjuvant along with egg protein as an allergen. In other words, the rats received a PERTUSSIS VACCINE. The human pertussis vaccine DTaP contains bordetella pertussis toxins with alum (aluminum phosphate) as an adjuvant along with allergens that include casein, various vegetable oils (Polysorbate 80), yeast etc. depending on the vaccine maker. What do you expect will happen to people receiving this vaccine? The mechanism used to induce food allergy in rats is so common and reliable that the authors just take it for granted. If this study is an indicator of what cocoa does to people, it is also equally an indicator of what allergen proteins in vaccines do to people. So I hope people will choose their vaccines very carefully and not forget to drink their cocoa for a month post-vaccination ... It's possible that this is where I first saw it and forgot. I do a lot of research and also mindless surfing on the Internet and don't always keep track of where i have first seen things, so there's always a chance that I will send it back to the place I found it. Credit where credit is due. I found the article interesting. Thanks for posting it. Lois