Yeah, I agree with you.
I don’t know who gave you that warning, but I’d say ignore it, because as a mod, it seemed unwarranted.
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I don’t know who gave you that warning, but I’d say ignore it, because as a mod, it seemed unwarranted
That was the worst public insult I have ever experienced from anyone.
You know I am a “hard atheist” and have argued against Intelligent Design many times.
But instead of correcting his utterly “WRONG” statement, you are agreeing with a newbie who dares to label me with an “ad hominem from pure ignorance”.
If this is what I can expect from you , I am seriously considering quitting CFI altogether.
I am furious!!!
You didn’t have to say anything. You could have just kept your hands quiet, but now they are probably giving you a good once over and have noticed you’re not a mod anymore. If you said nothing, it would have taken them more time to notice.
If you going to get bent like this you could end up with a warning. Keep in mind, you obviously didn’t want to be a mod anymore, so throwing a fit about what I considered an unwarranted warning at the time your privileges were removed, is uncalled for, IMO. You obviously didn’t care to be a mod and now you want to continue the BS when were told your privileges were going to be removed. Seems to me you were just lashing out at the last minute, thus it disqualified your warning. And if you want to get bent, have a conniption, and storm off, that’s your right. However, if you stay, stop continuing the public display of the disagreements between the three of us.
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Don’t have one.
But to go back to the quote I posted it’s just a concept we made up, ideas and abstractions we apply to the world around us that don’t exist outside our heads.
Nothing is self evident, observation is one of the first things questioned by philosophers and even more so by science the more it’s studied. I mean we find out that what we see has already happened, we aren’t present, which is more than enough to question your observation.
Axioms aren’t derived from anything, they are positions that you just accept as true full stop. Otherwise there is no way you can build any system of knowledge. Axioms science uses is faith in observations and external reality, without that there is no science. The point of such things is that they are just taken to be true, if you derive it from something then it’s not an axiom.
When you drill all the way down in any system of knowledge or belief you end up with something you can’t justify, so you just have to take it on faith.
But the material world around us does exist.
Yes, it’s true all of our ideas are within our head, that’s the “mindscape” I’m always referring to.
It’s something your body and its experiences puts into your head.
Does that make sense to you?
Human Mindscape ~ Physical Reality divide, it’s as fundamental as it gets.
You inthedarkness, as I, are just one individual amongst huge herds of humans.
You are a material animal, on a material planet called Earth, the product of Earth’s processes.
All of us humans inhabit pretty much the same body, and internal & neural systems.
From your conception, your body has been interacting with the outside world, first simply the biology of the womb nurturing an oblivious egg. Then the egg starts and continues developing the body parts in an awesome choreography of unfolding. At some point that egg, turned fetus, becomes aware of the outside world via mom, and how the outside world interacts with its mom. Then it pops into the world and spends the rest of his life living and gaining experience.
Dark, do you believe our planet Earth is the product of Evolution, that is time and geology and biology?
Trust would be a more honest term -
Faith is all about believing you have a calling to believe something WITHOUT any demonstrated evidence.
That’s what faith is, science is something very different!
Nonsense you are mislead.
You forget about the evidence gathering, and global multi-generational scientific community of expert minds, dedicated to good-faith honest research, publishing and debating with honest facts & evidence and honest arguments.
Science is all about learning from our mistakes.
Dark, What do you have to offer beyond nihilism?
Is there anything beyond not believing anything for you?
Or how am I misunderstanding you?
Random anonymous quotes on the internet are not evidence.
Then why do we have two words? What’s the difference between faith and axiom?
So I agreed with him, big deal.
I never said I was the injured party. I also did not chide you in open forum. Too bad you brought it out into the open.
That is an assumption though, one that I also make as well. I don’t assume I am talking to phantoms or anything like that.
Even science has to start from a point of faith, belief in something without evidence, because that is what any belief system rests on.
All things I experience from a first person point of view, I cannot step outside my mind to check it.
They do illustrate alternatives to things though. In this case its a reference to linguistics and some thinkers that argue against the notions you do.
Side note and might not be related I think I am getting better at sharpening my thinking skills when it comes to BS, though I might need a second eye.
To me this read like a total strawman of relationships just to make his point, and ironically I find unconditional love the most inauthentic form of it (not that it exists). Because it wouldn’t matter what I did or who I was, which sounds to me like you don’t actually love me but some abstract notion of love you dreamed up in your head.
Sorry for the divergence just wanted to point this out.
Yes. Some people think things I don’t. That’s why we have this discussion forum, so we can learn from each other. To accomplish anything, it requires some methods, like logic and evidence.
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Well somethings you can’t have evidence for. Like when it comes to language we don’t discover words out there in the word but make them up, same with concepts, to navigate and order things.
ultimately, shit just chaotically happens without meaning or structure; to seek a meaning for existence is to approach the Void and be turned back into the world of naming
conventionally, we ascribe meaning and structure to our lives to experience them in a cohesive way
And some people cant deal with the fact that other people have a different opinion to theirs and cant let that be
How do you get to the store?
Why are you here Zed?
What’s wrong John…?..
Are you my therapist now?
There’s only one ship’s counselor. I’ll see about bringing her here for you, if you wish to talk to her.
One foot in front of the other. I asked this question about whether true randomness exists and the answer seems to be unknown.
What was the question? What makes randomness “true” randomness?