AI Bot answers about God

Do you always believe what an AI says? Do you always believe what a human says?
Do you never believe what an AI says? Do you never believe what a human says?

If there is a difference, can you explain why?
OOPs, you can answer in your new thread if you like.

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I’m thinking you might be missing the point phillybruce was trying to make.

Is there a difference between humans?
Are some humans more trustworthy than others?
Are some humans drawn to imaginative thinking that easily ignores physical evidence and facts?
Are some humans drawn to seek an objective level of understanding?
Are some humans capable of subsuming their own Egos (and hurt feelings) into their desire for objective understanding?

Guess what I’m saying is please be more specific - hit phillybruce with challenges that are answerable.

I admit to knowing very little about AI, still perhaps it’s due to many years of futilely battling climate science contrarian arguments, I do know the difference between a vacuous paragraph and one that contains original thinking. Of course, it’s only on a superficial level, such as reading spam comments that simply smell inhuman to me.

I think that’s why the AI quotes shared in the beginnings of this thread reminded me of Google search results more than anything.

Phillybruce, I’ve read a little about AI and it gets overwhelming in a hurry - I wouldn’t know how to seriously read up on AI without committing to a couple college courses.
Although I’d love to find some summaries of “how AI actually works” - please do share.

I did discover Anastasi In Tech recently and sat through this video that I found interesting so will probably get around to some of her others on AI (apparently she’s actually worked in the field).

Might you have any gems to share, and please do start a new thread since I’ve already scrambled Matioesperante thread beyond anything he was probably hoping for and a fresh focused thread would be fun.

The article takes 100% perfection as the standard by which to judge AI;
That is totally unfair. Are humans 100% right all the time?

It is true that both systems are based on “probability”. This is why Anil Seth posits that the human brain can only make a “best guess” just like an AI.

As to reliance on a machine that may break down, that is underestimating the diagnostic powers of the machine itself. The machine can fix itself because unlike humans AI has absolute knowledge of its own internal networks and homeostatic processes.

The latest COVID vaccinations were developed by AI in a few days along with all the details of the formula . When tested they did not require any tweaking at all, the first time around!

An AI can give out a print-out of its neural network and find any defect in a matter of minutes and affect repairs, or warn maintenance personnel of the problem.

ChatGPT can also write you a song or a poem, (a story ?) and even essays about whatever you like - wait till it gets it first music album entry in the charts!! The music will be better than Mozart!!! or Michael Jackson!!! The books its write will be more amazing than the best authors can write

And it can even write code / perfect efficient code at that as well no doubt eg.
ChatGPT - The Secret Weapon To Write An Excel VBA Code / Macro (+ How to Overcome Error Msg) - YouTube

Right now https://chat.openai.com/ is up to capacity so I can’t get any of these things lol

This and the others are kind of what I was getting at. We are more than a mix of all the stuff we’ve read. No one can sort out the entire nature/nurture of a lifetime.

Try this.

And this is 2 classical violinists trying to tell what piece is Human or AI created.

Yes I can explain why. “Why” is the entire point of my OP. It appears to me that people are looking at AIs as if they are authority’s in questions that involve deep reasoning. Your comment is an all or nothing fallacy. AI has a use in society. They are not a replacement for a human expert yet. As I explained in another reply to you, if they where, that would be earth shattering advancement and we would all know about it. Again, this is the CFI. We need to apply a critical thinking discipline to our thinking.

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I’m a huge fan of that channel to! Great stuff.

I think what you are running into is that AI is an umbrellas term for a wide variety of topics and technologies. I would find a technology that interests you and start reading up on how it works. E.g. Neural Networks. You might also pick a particular AI that you are interested in and read up on that. Most of the open source AI’s have a wealth of material available on how they work. A collage intro course on AI will be an overview of different AI technologies without going into to much depth. If you could find a Massive Open Online Course (MOOC), that would probably be fun for you.

Also, be aware, there is a kind of disappointment that people go through as they learn how this stuff works. They are expecting magic and under the hood they find math and algorithms. Once you get through that, its an interesting subject.

Let me know if I can help.

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[quote=“phillybruce, post:10, topic:10094”]
You are claiming that humans are no longer the most intelligent thing on the planet.

No I don’t. But you are not looking at the entire range of mental abilities.
I already mentioned that in the area of sensory awareness, GPT, being pure brain, does not have the experience of its environment other than it’s own electronic network. It lives in a virtual world.

But every organism has a survival advantage of some kind in its own environment.

Just like an eagle’s vision far outperforms human eyesight, or a bloodhound’s olfactory ability far outperforms humans. Or a bat can navigate in total darkness. None are as smart as humans but are better than humans at something. Those abilities are products of the brain combined with sensory abilities.

But in brute calculation power (a form of thought) AIs far outperform humans.
A computer beat the world champion Chess player and even more impressive an AI beat the world champion at GO, a game that cannot be played by brute calculation but requires intuitive game strategy.

But nothing can yet match our ability for abstract thought. AI still lacks sensory acuteness.

Ai becoming the best Go player in the world

But try chess, not only is it unbeatable, but in this game … the AI gives away - literally a bishop for free in move number 2 against the world champion and still wins comfortably imo - in return the AI gets to weaken the opponent’s pawn structure but a whole bishop in move 2 !!!

Stockfish 15.1 (4K Elo) Sacrificed His Bishop in the Opening | Stockfish vs Magnus | Fide magnus - YouTube

I would love to see the same game again but not take the bishop. - the world champion would still lose of course.

For chess, the AI actually giving away lessons for free - I’ve not subscribed to that channel yet

I am wondering about the complexity of the in game story

Here we go folks. Considering that we are dealing with a “learning creator” I can’t wait to see what scenarios the AI will come up with.

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That’s confusing in light of:

May 13, 2007 - Eustake

Short documentary about computer chess history up to the third millennium and especially about the 1997 chess match between Garry Kasparov World Chess Champion and IBM’s computer Deep Blue. The computer won the match 3.5 - 2.5 and Kasparov lost a chess match for the first time in his life.

May 20, 2020 - Chess.com

Computer Chess Engines have gotten stronger each year with current engines like Alphazero, Stockfish, Komodo, and Leela Chess Zero reaching new levels of perfection monthly! Check out how computer engines have developed in the last 30+ years, from weak machines, easily dominated by humans, to monsters!

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“GO” is 10x more difficult than chess. I love chess because of its visual properties as well as the variety of individual moves.
Personally, I have never had much interest in forms of checker type games.

But a classic GO-board has 324 squares and the game has more possible moves than there are atoms in the universe.

Is Go the hardest board game?

Image result for how big is Go board

Go, which has more permutations than there are atoms in the universe, is thought to be the most difficult board game in the world.
Google AI Takes Down Human Champ of World's Most Complex Board Game | The Takeaway | WNYC Studios.

I’m not sure its confusing.

Kasparov had his mind blown up when he lost the first game against Deep Blue. Kasparov was outplayed going into the endgame which computers were never supposed to be good at. Computers used to take free pawns but in that first game he lost, it didn’t take a free pawn on the edge of the board but it found a better move to end up taking off a more important pawn which was right in the centre of the board. That’s when Kasparov famously walked out.

This told Kasparov that from now on, the computer will seriously consider other better possibilities even when it seemed dead obvious what the next move should be.

Its a bit scary to think now that Deep Blue would get smashed today by any free chess app that you can download on your phone these days.

Wait until GPT become role-play game masters.
Talking about ways to script an adventure!

I just asked it - the AI can write out scripts already!!.. Here are three adventures its just written for me - the first one would be a classic, then I asked for one about space, then another about working in an office lol

if you were a game master, could you write a script an adventure :

Sure, I can write a script for a short adventure. Keep in mind that I am an AI and my creativity may be limited. Here’s an example of a short adventure that could take place in a fantasy RPG setting:


The Adventure: “The Lost Crown”

The players find themselves in the small village of Ravenswood, where they hear rumors of a powerful magical crown that has been lost in the nearby forest. The villagers are afraid to venture into the forest because of the dangerous creatures that live there, but the players are brave and decide to take on the quest.

The players enter the forest and soon encounter a group of goblins. The goblins tell the players that they have seen the crown and that it is being guarded by a powerful witch. The players must defeat the witch if they want to claim the crown.

The players continue deeper into the forest and eventually come across the witch’s lair. The witch, who is named Morgana, is powerful and has many dark magic spells at her disposal. The players must use all their skills and abilities to defeat her and claim the crown.

Once the witch is defeated, the players find the crown hidden in a chest in the back of the lair. They take the crown and return to the village where they are greeted as heroes. The villagers are overjoyed and thank the players for their bravery. The players are rewarded with gold and other treasures.


This is just an example of a short adventure, and can be modified and expanded upon depending on the players decisions and actions. Also, the adventure can be tailored to the players’ level, game system, and preferences.

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Please write me another to do with an adventure in space :

Sure, here’s an example of a short adventure that could take place in a science fiction RPG setting:


The Adventure: “The Alien artifact”

The players find themselves on a distant planet, where they are part of a team sent to investigate an ancient alien artifact. The artifact is believed to have powerful technology that could change the course of human civilization.

As soon as the players arrive at the artifact’s location, they are confronted by a group of hostile alien creatures. The players must use their weapons and abilities to fight off the aliens and protect the artifact.

Once the aliens are defeated, the players begin to explore the artifact. They find that it is a massive structure with many rooms and levels. As they explore, they discover that the artifact is a kind of a research facility, filled with advanced technology and information about the ancient alien civilization.

As they continue to explore, the players come across a room with a strange device that appears to be a form of teleportation. They activate the device and find themselves transported to a different part of the planet.

There they find another group of aliens, this time peaceful and friendly, who tell the players that the artifact was built by their ancestors as a way to preserve their knowledge and culture. They also reveal that the hostile aliens the players had encountered earlier were a rogue faction that had turned against their own kind.

The players must decide whether to keep the knowledge and technology they have found for themselves or to share it with the peaceful aliens and humanity.


Again, this is just an example of a short adventure, and can be modified and expanded upon depending on the players decisions and actions. Also, the adventure can be tailored to the players’ level, game system, and preferences.

Please write me another one about working in an office :

Sure, here’s an example of a short adventure that could take place in a modern RPG setting, in an office environment:


The Adventure: “The Corporate Sabotage”

The players find themselves working in a large corporation, where they are part of a team working on an important project. The project is a new product that is expected to revolutionize the industry, and the corporation’s future depends on its success.

As the players work on the project, they begin to notice strange things happening. Equipment is malfunctioning, documents are disappearing, and there are delays and setbacks that seem to be caused by sabotage.

The players soon discover that someone inside the corporation is trying to sabotage the project in order to gain an advantage for a rival company. They must use their skills and abilities to uncover the culprit and put a stop to the sabotage before it’s too late.

The players must gather evidence and interview their colleagues, trying to find out who is behind the sabotage. They find out that there are several suspects, each with their own motives. They must use their critical thinking and communication skills to decipher the clues and find the real saboteur.

Once they have identified the saboteur, the players must decide how to confront them. They can try to convince them to stop the sabotage, or they can go to the management and reveal their findings.

In the end, the players successfully stop the sabotage, and the project is completed on time. The corporation is saved, and the players are hailed as heroes.


Again, this is just an example of a short adventure, and can be modified and expanded upon depending on the players decisions and actions. Also, the adventure can be tailored to the players’ level, game system, and preferences.

And then I asked the AI if it could be the game-master:

Are you able to be the game master?

As an AI language model, I am not able to physically participate in a role-playing game, but I can certainly assist a game master (GM) in creating and running an adventure. I can generate NPCs (non-player characters) dialogs, describe locations, and create encounters for the players, for example. I can also help a GM with ideas for how to develop the story and how to react to the players’ actions and decisions.

As a GM, my main function would be to facilitate the game by creating and controlling the game world, and by acting as the “referee” who makes decisions about the rules and the outcome of the players’ actions. I can also provide different scenarios, and help players in making decisions and taking actions according to their characters abilities and goals.

It is important to note that the role of a GM is a complex one, and requires creativity, flexibility, and good communication skills to be successful. If you’re interested in being a GM, you should try to get experience by running or playing in a few games before taking on the role yourself.

I am very very impressed !!!

But i am wondering how detailed could the script be.

Could the AI write a novel ?

Oh yes.