8 Hours from Death

The Roswell Incident Part 6
World War 2 was over and everyone in America was looking forward to peace and prosperity. Well, almost everyone.
Powerful officers who headed the United States Army Air Force were scheming behind closed doors. They wanted their independence from the Army after they believed they’d proved their worthiness during 4 years of war. And maybe they did deserve their independence, but did they resort to scare tactics?
Case in point – an esteemed general named George C. Kenney stepped out of the back rooms and up to a microphone long enough to address a group of veterans. Subsequently, The Washington Post reported his comments in the following story on 17 June 1947.
Kenney Sees Only 8 Hours War Warning
Knoxville, Tenn., June 16 (INS).—Gen. George C. Kenney, commanding general of the strategic air command, warned tonight that the United States will have only eight hours to prepare to defend itself in the event of a future war.
Kenney, veteran of air war in the Pacific during World War II, pleaded for adequate national defense measures immediately in an address here before a convention of the Veterans of Foreign Wars.
He stressed “the current weakness of the United States as a military power by pointing out that two years ago the air forces could throw 1,000 B-29 bombers into a single air strike, while on May 16, 1947, we could put less than 150 B-29 bombers over New York and Washington during a maneuver."
Kenney declared: “Only a state of preparedness to repel attack can prevent our being attacked… a defenseless nation is always the nation most subject to attack.
“That attack has been made easier, more deadly and harder to defend against the tremendous impetus given by World War II to scientific research and development.”
Kenney warned that there will be no time to develop and produce planes and other equipment after we are attacked, adding: “Remember that every airplane we used in World War II was already in production on December 7, 1941. Even under the stress and war, we were unable to develop a new airplane into operation nearly four years later before the Japanese finally quit."

General Kenney declared “delay can be fatal… the bombs are only eight hours away from you.”
This story is military fear-mongering at its finest. Did you notice the second last paragraph? When I first skimmed it, I thought it meant they didn’t build a single new plane after December 7, 1941. But it actually reads that no new airplanes were developed, built, tested, and put into production. That’s not too surprising even by today’s standards, but did Kenney say it to deceive and scare the public?
And, to the best of my knowledge, the first foreign attack on US soil happened February 26, 1993 (nearly 46 years later), when an explosion destroyed the parking basement beneath Trade Tower One in New York. But even that failed to trigger the all-out war Kenney suggested.
Fast-Forward 3 Weeks – The Roswell Incident
Washington politicians must have wondered what the hell the Air Force was doing. If Major Marcel did recover a flying saucer on 08 July 1947], politicians probably wondered what kind of morons would’ve issued a press release that alerted and redirected Russian spies to steal the super advanced technology. Alternately, if Major Marcel retrieved a spent weather balloon and if senior officers at Roswell Army Air Field confused that debris with a flying saucer and then issued a flying saucer press release, the politicians would’ve wondered what kind of morons were running the Air Force.
Either way, issuing the press release was moronic. However, President Truman signed the deal] to separate the Air Force from the Army on 26 July 1947, only 18 short days after the Air Force embarrassed themselves.
Was President Truman Involved?
I believe so and I’ve been looking for clues in the Truman Library. Recently I skimmed his 1947 diary entries] but there were none between July 6, 1947 and July 21st. I’d hoped this gap was something interesting but long gaps between his diary entries weren’t uncommon.
Then I did find a clue. First, White House archives indicate President Truman met with New Mexico Senator and fellow Democrat Carl Hatch] on 09 July 1947 at 10:30 am, a short-notice meeting arranged on 07 July. Coincidence? Knowing Truman’s desire to separate the Air Force, it’s conceivable he collaborated in Roswell’s flying saucer incident and may have apprised Hatch to some degree.
Truman understood the growing communist crisis in post-war Berlin], and he understood the need for military air supremacy (it was the only practical means of bombing long-distance targets) in the new atomic era. Nuclear armed ICBM’s and submarine-launched Polaris missiles were still 12 and 13 years away respectively.
And Truman’s administration had proposed and lobbied vigorously for their ‘Unification Bill’ which outlined legislation for a separate Air Force. Truman believed he could make the Air Force stronger for less money if he could separate it from the Army.
From there, I contend Truman and very senior Air Force officers in Washington manipulated or worked with powerful Democrats who agreed with their long sought goal of independence from Army control to better protect the USA.
Would the Air Force Deliberately Scare People?
Powerful nations are built on warfare against other nations. And the various power structures within dominant nations, a military force for instance, win public support by promoting the fact or perhaps the illusion that hostile forces lie in wait. Between armed conflicts, the military and groups with military interests struggle to prove their worth, struggle to justify their continued existence or growth. They often release, perhaps even anonymously leak, information of a threat only they can handle.
Enemies for the Military are Like Sins for Evangelists
They’re notoriously Machiavellian… claim we’re under constant threat from enemies only they have the vision or the wisdom or the ‘gift’ to identify. They’re careful not to lie more than necessary, and they’ll speak half-truths to justify their existence.
If the Roswell flying saucer press release was an Air Force lie, then I suggest they intended to create an alien threat because they had no direct Earthly enemy in 1947. And if the flying saucer trick worked once, why not twice? To keep fear running high, the Air Force devised a clever way to keep flying saucers on people’s minds.
Project Sign (1948), Project Grudge (1949), and Project Bluebook (1952)
The Air Force undertook these projects] to collect, collate, evaluate and distribute data to interested government agencies and contractors of sightings and phenomena in the atmosphere that threatened national security.
The Air Force said the projects were intended to explain UFO’s—ufologists claim the Air Force used these projects to cover-up actual UFO’s and flying saucers. But are either of these purposes true?
Dog and Pony Show
‘Sign’ stated UFO’s were likely of extraterrestrial origin, but apparently someone important rejected this opinion and terminated ‘Sign’. In contrast, Project Grudge operated under stringent intelligence procedures to arrive at the desired opinion. In other words, it seemed they wouldn’t be doing everything they could to identify UFO’s.
‘Blue Book’ came full-circle and reverted back to the liberal concepts of ‘Sign’. Generally regarded as having offered the most ufologist-friendly-unexplained (or lame) sightings of the 3, ‘Blue Book’ ended in January 1970.
To Summarize…
I believe Air Force Command kept the UFO illusion going with unexplained-conclusions and lame excuses or denials designed to create skepticism, to make it look like the military had no answers for an overwhelming number of flying saucers invading our airspace. One way to make people believe something is to tell them they shouldn’t believe it, and give flawed reasons.
NOTE: Brigadier Roger Ramey, the man who held the press conference in Texas] in 1947 and publicly humiliated Major Marcel, later became an Air Force UFO spokesman. I guess he was qualified, having been part of Blanchard’s phony flying saucer.
What’s that Blip?
I know zilch about radar, but I’ve always wondered if an expert or experts could somehow rig radar equipment to create artificial signals that might mimic our perceptions of a flying saucer. If so, that could make a control room full of radar people believe they’d encountered a flying saucer—and they’d be credible witnesses for the press and the public afterward.
Scare Tactics
The more afraid we are, the more we want a strong military. And the fear of Russians and flying saucers in the late 1940’s was good news for the new United States Air Force determined to make itself bigger and more important than the Army and the Navy.

Why did you title this “8 hours from death”? Was it just a cheap way to trick people into reading it? I was almost set to start taking you seriously until you said the Apollo project was a hoax. :frowning:

I said I believe the Apollo program may have been a hoax, that I have evidence to back up my claim.

I said I believe the Apollo program may have been a hoax, that I have evidence to back up my claim.
Ok, Trot out your evidence. Cap't Jack

I also said I’d make it public if I publish my book.

I also said I'd make it public if I publish my book.
Elucidate. I sat at the TV and watched all of the the liftoffs. How exactly was a hoax of that magnitude perpetrated? There were way too many people involved to be able to keep that a secret from the American public for long. Present your evidence. No way am I paying money for your 'explanation'.

… paying money for your ‘explanation’ - what are you talking about?

... paying money for your ‘explanation’ - what are you talking about?
I won't be purchasing your book to get the elusive 'explanation'.
I also said I'd make it public if I publish my book.
I've gotta agree with Asanta; most of us here would not buy your book for explanations. Could you give a quick overview of the proof you have, that the moon landings were faked? A little taste, please! :-)

A good overview of the evidence that the trips to the moon were in fact hoaxes is here].

A good overview of the evidence that the trips to the moon were in fact hoaxes is here].
I hope you're joking.
A good overview of the evidence that the trips to the moon were in fact hoaxes is here].
I hope you're joking. Guess... :coolsmile:
I also said I'd make it public if I publish my book.
Gary, re. this claim and the one HERE]: ours is a forum for discussion and inquiry, not for drumming up potential interest in a future book. If you have evidence to put up for discussion, please do so. If not, this kind of strategy becomes a form of spamming or trolling, which are against the rules.
A good overview of the evidence that the trips to the moon were in fact hoaxes is here.
Although this has been done to death here's a counter: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/07/photogalleries/apollo-moon-landing-hoax-pictures/index.html Just for starters as there's much more to corroborate the event including first hand accounts and official documents. Evidence trumps belief. Cap't Jack
I also said I'd make it public if I publish my book.
<span style="color:blue]Gary, re. this claim and the one Understood, Doug. I won't mention the subject again until I'm ready to support it.

Thevillageatheist,
My link refers to a mockumentary]… It is a very good one!
Didn’t expect somebody to seriously think I believe this stuff… I still have my cut outs from the newspapers those days. It was a great time for an 8-year old boy interested in astronomy. Or maybe it was the cause of me being interested in astronomy?

Thevillageatheist, My link refers to a mockumentary... It is a very good one! Didn’t expect somebody to seriously think I believe this stuff… I still have my cut outs from the newspapers those days. It was a great time for an 8-year old boy interested in astronomy. Or maybe it was the cause of me being interested in astronomy?
Sorry GdB but I was aiming the site at Gary. I used your post as a reference to the hoax. And BTW, it was just as fascinating to a 20 year old young man! It was one of those "where were you when ..." moments I will never forget. and I didn't think for a moment that you bought into that cover up BS. Cap't Jack

How does this conspiracy theorist explain the laser reflector sitting up there on the moon, then?

I also said I’d make it public if I publish my book.

<span style="color:blue]Gary, re. this claim and the one
He’s got the evidence but
youtube.com/watch?v=3_iQZiVD_zA
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PS. Man CFI cyber guru’s have gotten tough on outside links. Everything I want to share they consider spam :-/
Besides, what’s wrong with a little spam…
well guess some folks don’t like it…

youtube.com/watch?v=g8huXkSaL7o
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sorry no linkage gotta cut’n paste :ahhh:

PS. see: “Why the Moon Landings Weren’t Faked”
under CFI - Pseudoscience and The Paranormal board
centerforinquiry.net/forums/viewthread/15470/
yipes that’s tough, they are even rejecting a link to a CFI thread. :ohh:

I also said I'd make it public if I publish my book.
<span style="color:blue]Gary, re. this claim and the one Thanks for saying that. It's exactly what I was thinking. He throws out a provocative statement but refuses to follow through. Typical troll.