This is not a debate if you are telling me what I think and not taking a stand on the issue being debated.
The laptop is real and not Russian disinformation.
Can you prove it?
If not, then I am done with you and your “beliefs”… 
All doctors should be alarmist when it comes to health issues. I have been following Dr. Campbell for years now. Mainly for unexplained deaths and protein strings in the veins.
The Pew Charitable Trusts
https://www.pewtrusts.org › issue-briefs › 2022/12
Dec 5, 2022 — In 2020, the national general fertility rate was down 15.9% from its average over the decade ending in 2010, with 10 states experiencing …
U.S. Births in 2023 Fell to Lowest in Decades
Time Magazine https://time.com › U.S. › Health Care
Apr 25, 2024 — Total births for the year fell 2% to 3.59 million, according to preliminary data released Thursday from the U.S. National Center for Health …
Above is talk about falling birth rates.
Because of the lockdowns, the birth rate was expected to rise. Then Dr. Campbell showed a new pathway being worked on. It may be next year before the we get anymore data. The facts are the CDC has all the data needed to clear this up. They are not doing anything which looks bad.
Yes.
The laptop and some of its contents played a visible role in federal prosecutors’ case against the president’s son, who was charged with lying on a firearm application in 2018 by not disclosing his drug use. A prosecutor briefly held up the laptop before the jury in Delaware, and an F.B.I. agent later testified that messages and photos on it and in personal data that Mr. Biden had saved in cloud computing servers had made his drug use clear.
If it was not real. Then Biden’s attorneys would have never allowed it to be use as evidence agaist Hunter.
First, we didn’t have a vaccine for COVID in 2020, so you can’t blame the COVID vaccine for that.
Well, there is such a thing as birth control and with the Repugs denying women to health care, such as abortion, I’m not surprised more women are using birth control, such as IUDs, the pill, and more. So again, you can’t blame the vaccine for all of that. Women just don’t want to be forced to have babies and if they are raped, get pregnant from the rape, they aren’t allowed an abortion for that even. So… birth control is a good option and now, Repugs want to take that away.
You cannot blame COVID vaccines on the fact women do not want to be baby factories. If women don’t want children, the birth rate will go down, but it’s not because of a vaccine.
Logical fallacy. You can’t draw a conclusion out of someone not answering your question. Maybe, instead of meaning they are avoiding you, it means the question is bad, worthless, leading, and/or unproductive.
Maybe the have something better to do.
I agree. The data is what the data is. I am not debating the issue. Just want to lay out what facts we have. With what it costs the taxpayers to run these government departments. We should not have to search for facts.
To me the issue of birth control was brought on by the Democrats. People don’t care if someone wants an abortion. What people don’t want is to pay for other peoples medical bills when they can’t afford to pay for their own. They sometimes feel like they would be better off by stop working and letting the government pay for all their life necessaries.
Health use to be a State controlled issue. People also don’t like big governments when they are paying taxes and fees on everything. The push to get taxpayer coverage on abortion backfired when the general public responded.
Be honest, it is about free medical, not about the babies.
And I am not blaming it on vaccines. I just want to see the data. It should be available to taxpayers. Why am I forced to go out of the country to get data? That is the issue.
Maybe. Let’s talk facts and not theories. Is the Question. “Do you believe the laptop is Russian misinformation?” a bad, worthless, leading, and/or unproductive question?
It is the key to the debate. Fill me in on how you have a debate without answers of ideas.
This isn’t a debate. It’s a free flowing forum. How do you have a free flow if someone is making their own rules and making demands?
That’s rhetorical. You don’t.
A source can be right about one thing and wrong about another. I don’t like Biden and didn’t vote in 2020, but I never believed the election was stolen. None of the so-called proof of the election being stolen has amounted to anything, so what else is there?
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If you aren’t equating the two, then why post it after what Campbell said was nothing more than alarmist talk?
then why post it after what Campbell said was nothing more than alarmist talk?
The issue here is that I must go outside of the US to get data. And I use the fact that I am following the sperm problem as an example of one of the items that the US will not release data on. The subject matter is access to US health data from the government. It is not just me. House congressmen will ask for data and the departments will take years to release the data. I am getting the picture that data that they feel is negative to the Democrat Party gets buried. It sure looking political to me. American health should not be a political issue.
To answer your questions.
Campbell is not someone to discard. He has over 3M followers that include many people in political office and many doctors. He has written a medical journal on health. He is very careful about how he states facts and possible facts due to the banding of sites like his from the internet. He did not say it was alarmist talk. He said it could be and he wants the governments to release more information that they have. The data he sited was from Denmark. His method in New Zeland and Australia was to get political backing which will get news coverage that will get departments to open up the data. In England they brought up his items in Parliament. What is happening is bringing up health issues failures by the government is not a subject that many political members want to get involved with.
My guess would be that the governments indemnified the vaccine makers and gave them billion-dollar deals. Like our billion-dollar military contracts. The government does not like to talk about any problems they have with the companies. This week Kansas filed a lawsuit against Pfizer for misleading vaccine claims. And the ninth district court has ruled that the vaccine is not really a vaccine.
That’s like saying Jesus Christ isn’t someone to discard because he has 3 Billion followers. PLEASE! That said, I do subscribe to him and take him with a grain of salt. He’s not my only source of information and I suspect he has many followers like myself. My view on the COVID vaccine is not political. It’s health and lives of people and that last thing we need is alarmists like Campbell, but there he is and yet I do listen to his videos, still taking them with a grain of salt and not as gospel.
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“It’s not because they are many to be wrong that they are right."
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No you don’t. You found some data outside the US and you think it’s worth looking at, that it contradicts other data, that the US is hiding something. It’s not. You found it. It wasn’t in a secret vault.
What does the data tell us? Was the study valid? Is the source credible? Those are proper questions, not the country it’s from.
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I goggled that and couldn’t find anything on this “new pathway,” in fact most hits had to do with a 1992 movie, that and then arguments about John Campbells qualification, or lack there of. They say he’s a nurse, not a doctor. That’s curious.
LadyHonoriaDedlock Mon 06-Mar-23 21:01:02
It’s probably worth mentioning that John Campbell PhD is not a medical doctor. He holds a nursing diploma and indeed had some experience as an A&E nurse many years ago, but for most of his career he trained nurses at the University of Cumbria and elsewhere. He’s also written or co-written a couple of books on nursing practice. His PhD thesis at the University of Bolton was on the use of online materials in the training of nurses.
There’s nothing wrong with that, of course, but the BMA might well be taking an interest in his emphasis on the “Dr” part implying that he speaks as an expert on medical matters, particularly vaccines and immunology, fields.
Campbell uses cherry-picked research abstracts and non-peer-reviewed articles and social media postings to make his claims in his videos. You can see them critically debunked here
but to save time you might like to note the key takeaway from that article from two months ago:
“Multiple peer-reviewed published studies have shown that the benefits of COVID-19 vaccination outweigh its risks. Benefits from vaccination take longer to appear compared to harms, which usually appear within the first six weeks following vaccination. Consequently, studies that aim to reliably compare the risks and benefits of vaccination require time to obtain a complete picture.”
I was caught off guard by claims of Campbell’s apparently un-nuanced rejection of face masks to help stop the spread of COVID.
That is a true statement. Now, people follow Jesus for several reasons. I follow Jesus for the judicial system, the moral base teachings and the tribalism gatherings because of a belief Jesus represents the good in human kind . I have no belief in the Pauline base Christianity. Which I personally view as being Roman designed for use of past Hellenistic-Jewish branch of Jewish religion to be a empire religion. If you have no use or find no good out of Jesus Christ, I have no problem with that. To each his own. Find what works for you. Campbell works for me as a source of keeping up with the data on the Covid.
Yesterday Campbell did a talk about Evidence based communication. Which I would rate as great. And he covers what I am talking about. Getting the data.
Ok, let’s debate what you think I am doing. For example. I want to know about protein strings in the US. What I found is that the subject was brought into US spotlight by data being raised from the EU. But has so far died out in the US due to lack of data being released. There was a push for the data here. But none released. Protein strings are a leading contender for the cause of unexplained deaths. One would think government would want to research the issue. And I expect they have. Where is the data?
Dr. Campbell yesterday’s release on You tube should answer a lot of your questions.
Evidence based communication.
The pathway is simple. Give the people the data and tell the truth.
Campbell says it would be faster here in America if we collected data to begin with. That is why the sperm data came from Denmark. They collect the medical data so they can tell the public what is going on health wise in Denmark. As every country should do. South Africa is also good at collecting data from what I have read. Why can’t we?
You just told me where it is. Then you say things like “there was a push”, without naming names or giving me any idea how you came up with that. I don’t think you understand how debates work