Who is “God” ?

It evolved from simple people, much it for reasons they didn’t understand. But, that’s another thread.

The answer to “who is god” is always in your brain. It also depends on your awareness of and ability to use the human genome. If you are religious, the answer to "who is god is in your brain, the god you pray to.

Thank you, Pointpath, well said :+1:t2:

Though it seems ‘mind’ might be the better term, the brain-body-physical-interface,

Well okay they were simple people,
but those simple family units, and tribes, also contained individuals who were simple - but still some of these simple individuals were by nature more curious, asked more questions so arrived at more answers, individuals who thought a little deeper than most the others. Simple people listen to kin who have new ideas and solutions and who can convey that. Wave function collapse from a macroscopic humanistic philosophical perspective.
:wink:

So it is a wave function called God that collapses into a physical set of particles?
Then we have the conceptual wave function of a FSM (Flying Spaghetti Monster) that also collapses in my brain into a visual and emotional experience.
Does that make the FSM true and me a Pastafarian?

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|Texts|The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, The Loose Canon, the Holy Book of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster|
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Flying Spaghetti Monster - Wikipedia

It’s not a good sign, if you missed the note of humor in there.
But, I still love ya.

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Yes, many religions, including Judaism, started with animism and then moved to anthropomorphism, like we see today.

In theory then, there should be no reason why I asked the questions that you are responding to, But your statement was:

Notice the relativity-centric references that I have been pointing out? Consider my starting point to always be emphasizing the aspect of ‘advaita’ (not two). In case it isn’t on you radar.

An no, I don’t.
Biology-centric I could compute, but this relativity-centric still isn’t computing.
I mean, I appreciate that everything is relative to everything else, which is why search for “Truth” with ‘certainty’ is a folly.

I label myself an Earth Centrist, because Earth is my touchstone with reality and all I know builds around that foundation, it’s central to all I know and believe.

But relativity-centric? It conjures confusion and chaos for me

The term Advaita (literally “non-secondness”, but usually rendered as “nondualism”, and often equated with monism) refers to the idea that Brahman alone is ultimately real, while the transient phenomenal world is an illusory appearance (maya) of Brahman (wiki).

nondualism, monism, or dualism, wave-function collapse, its all word salads.
How about a picture?

Do you grant that Space and time are not well understood without reference to their actual context as a continuum?

And then there is the role of zero in the equation 0+1=1…?

Beyond that I’m tired of your arguments being based on summations like “hippy dippy” and “word salad”.

So, adieu…I no longer care what answer you come up with regarding the above questions,

The elegant solution is to say “There is Only God”. But, I’ve been told many times that it isn’t allowed because “God” has baggage.

It’s only humans who say it isn’t allowed. Humans define a god and it is other humans who go around saying, “No, that’s wrong. You can’t do that.” No one really knows if there is a god and if there is one, no one knows what it is. It’s much like the Tao.

Tao Te Ching – Verse 1 – The tao that can be told is not the eternal Tao The name that can be named is not the eternal Name.

Another translation, by Derek Lin ( Tao Te Ching Translation – Derek Lin ) is:

The Tao that can be spoken is not the eternal Tao
The name that can be named is not the eternal name

So no matter what we say here or how we define it, that’s not it. It’s much like the Indian “Neti Neti” or Not this Not that ( https://mindowl.org/neti-neti-meditation/ ). So… if one says God isn’t allowed “baggage”, then that’s not it either.

Or here is another way of saying it is not in the sky or the sea or whatever, but in everything and including the universe, from the Gospel of Thomas:

https://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/thomas.htm

  1. Jesus said, “If those who lead you say, ‘See, the Kingdom is
    in the sky,’ then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they
    say to you, ‘It is in the sea,’ then the fish will precede you.
    Rather, the Kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you.
    When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and
    you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living
    Father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty
    and it is you who are that poverty.”

This supports, IMHO, what I said about it being in us, the earth, and the universe as a whole. It is in everything. So who are you are anyone else to say that is wrong that IT (whatever it is) runs through everything and is in everything within and including the universe? The Big Bang is both the beginning and end.

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Yep, in the Fibonacci sequence; 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, …

Jesus in the octad in Gnosism and Numerology. Not sure where I read that but I think it was in “Jesus Christ, Sun of God” by David Fideler.

Oh but it’s got nothing to do with your inability to explain?

Excuse me.

And the Tao that can be named is the mother of the ten thousand things.

Wuji (without ridgepole)

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Not sure why you didn’t realize I was backing you up.

Not sure why you don’t realize why we didn’t realize you were backing us up.

I had the fun of discovering the periodicity of the Fibonacci serquence playing with a spreadsheet.

Only later learned that Joseph -Louis Lagrange called it Pisano perodicity.

The patterns are different depending on what base is used but repeat infinitely.

The sound of one hand clapping falling on deaf ears…?

IDK. I try not to put too much blame on others when they don’t understand me. It doesn’t help bridge the communication gap.

Do you disagree with the observation that the “biblical God” has baggage or that the bible is manmade and not “revelation”?