Thanks everybody!
Some thoughts so far.
@Timb
》Because they are creepy.《
That seems totally obvious, doesn't it? The creepy thing about cults, though, is they never seem creepy to those who join them.
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@citizenschallengev3
》83ish ... I never imagined how that mindset was going to take over this country. Silly happy hippy that I was.《
You had the gift of prophesy!!
》I’m not searching for someone to provide thee answers for me.《
This seems super key in avoiding cults.
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@lausten
》There were plenty of opportunities in the 80s and that coincided with those vulnerable college years for me. 《
As deeply as I was influenced by 1980s Evangelicalism in college, it's interesting to note I never actually JOINED Campus Crusade or Navigators because I didn't like the PEOPLE.
》But, early on, they usually have a mission that many of us would agree with, something about being inclusive, like Jim Jones《
Studying up on the original Peoples Temple freaked me out a bit -- I'd have found their beliefs really compelling, earlier in my life. And objectively, Jones got a lot of good stuff done in the beginning.
But “inclusivity” is also something that made Jones different. Most cults focus more on EXclusivity, on “us” vs “them,” on protection from an enemy (even if they have to create one).
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@thatoneguy
》The biggest risk factor for somebody joining a cult is a lack of strong social ties, by far.《
I wonder if it's more a disruption of social ties, even in those who do have them. I've heard lots of stories of people raised in big, supportive families, with strong networks of friends ... who move away for college and get immediately sucked in. They can't handle being alone. Lifetime "loners" don't seem attracted to cults because they're not attracted to ANY groups of people.
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@3point14rat
》No future cultist here... I’m immune to cults! 《
Be careful! The experts would say this makes you more susceptible, not less! ;)
》For some reason I can’t not think about what I hear.
... my brain automatically tries to find a fault or loophole or other mistake in it.《
Yes! This! Me too! (Now, anyway. I don't think it was always the case.) I am constantly checking my bias, and others' bias.
I have to think this is another important factor in avoiding cults…recognizing there’s always a chance that someone else is wrong, or that you are.
At least today we have Google. When you meet a person or hear about a group, you can at least find out what others have said about them. And yet … we still have cults.
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@widdershins
》I’ve actually considered starting a cult...《
Long story short: My ex was a pastor. He was brilliant, charismatic, and a malignant narcissist. Our church always stayed very small, despite our efforts to grow.
I think he was “missing” two ingredients: he wasn’t interested in money or material success, and he wasn’t apocalyptic. I think if he’d had more greed or urgency, he would have been a very successful cult leader.