Which is exactly what I said. So why are you trying to explain to me, what I said?
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I am happy when we are in agreement⌠
Only if one doesnât have dyscalculia does it work well.
Oh Iâm not talking about that. That is a conscious activity.
All your homeostatic functions are mathematical regulators of your internal
electro-chemical system balance that keeps you alive every second of the day.
One of the oldest mobile organisms on earth, the insect, mastered the mathematics of aeronautics billions of years before birds came along.
You do not need to be consciously preoccupied with mathematical calculation. It would be very distracting and the brain has learned to be âselectiveâ of what it needs to concentrate on.
The rest of the system can be dedicated to autonomous maintaining control of bio-chemical processes.
What? How do numbers keep one alive?
Youâre talking to a person who wasnât Dx with dyscalculia until she was a non-traditional college student, trying to pass Algebra. I worked hard for the solid D after 4 times of taking the course. For me it was the equivalent of the As I got in my Psychology major and I took swing courses in Psychology (grad course that upper underclasspersons could take). The only reason they didnât discover it until then, according to Missouri State, is that back in the 60s and 70s they didnât recognize it like they did dyslexia.
Now that I understand, as long as the numbers arenât in there and I have to solve for a letter. Iâve said all my life that numbers and letter do not go together.
Numbers are not the point. Numbers are symbols. What they represent is generic âvaluesâ the properties that make patterns distinct from one another.
Example: A Lemur counts by size of quantity without counting. It is cognizing âmoreâ from âlessâ. It can recognize quantity as fast as any human. There is a wealth of experimental confirmation.
Walking is a mathematica exercise. Itâs a controlled fall forward and instantly maintaining balance. Those are all mathematical functions of the brain and neural system.
Have some chores to do. Will get back later.
Insects didnât master math. Youâre using these words in ways that distort their meaning.
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So did the stick figures of our ancestors.
I donât use math to walk, dance, or do tai chi. I use my muscles, kinetics. As far as measuring goes, I do the same with cooking- a pinch of this, a bit of that, a dollop of that. Not that I donât sometimes us a measuring cup, but for most things I donât and I rarely use salt.
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They mastered flight and that is applied mathematics. The insect does not need to know any of this. Natural selection took care of this billions of years ago.
Insect Aerodynamics
Contrary to what you may expect, insects, in general, donât flap their wings. Instead, they rotate them in an oval fore-to-aft arc (explaining the helicopter analogy).
Many insects also flip their wings over at the end of each stroke so the wing is angled to generate lift moving both fore and aft. The angle of attack of the wing is crazy high, right at the stall point, which generates a structure of whirling air called a leading edge vortex.
This is apparently much like our wing tip vortices, but these little tornadoes line the entire leading edge of the wing, and their rapid motion creates a flowing Bernoulli-style low pressure above the wing.
In a standard fixed airfoil, this vortex would rapidly separate from the wing, but the moving action of the bug wing keeps the vortex in place.
Additionally, the criss-cross applesauce nature of the wings in motion also engages a property called wake capture, in which the wing recaptures a percentage of the energy of the previous strokeâs vortex. The wing design of some insects, notably mosquitoes, also allows for a similar vortex on the trailing edge of the wing, for double the lift.
Here we have a philosophical impasse.
Many believe math is an intellectual tool.
You believe the math in your head is the essence of everything.
I believe the mathematical nature of the universe is an inevitable outcome of any system that can develop the way our cosmos has, must by necessity be internally consistent and that this consistency is why math is such a fantastic tool.
The other, turns that on itâs head, as though the math we invented in our heads, is the essence of the universe that created us, and which is actually way beyond our petty self-serving natures to fully accurately comprehend.
This brings us right back to what I mean with that Abrahamic mindset and its hallmark of a supreme Self-Absorption that permeates so many. You believe your mind should be able to grasp the answer to everything. I believe thatâs a fools journey that misleads many, and that has enabled us to ignore the harsh existential realities we should be facing and confronting.
I donât believe in âTruth.â
I believe the best people can do, is convey their experience as honesty as possible.
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Here we have a philosophical impasse.
Why must you see generic mathematical functions as a human invention?
Humans âdiscoveredâ the mathematical nature of the universe and âsymbolizedâ the values and functions into scientific language, a tool. We did not invent the functions.
We invented a symbolic language to describe universal mathematical functions.
I donât understand why that fact should be so controversial.
And if humans were to disappear, the universe would function in a mathematical manner just as does now. Except, there would be no humans to observe it and describe it in a symbolic language, such as Algebra. Note that algebra describes mathematical values via alphabetical letters. No numbers, but assign a value to the letter and we get equations.
Many believe math is an intellectual tool.
Yes, human symbolic maths are intellectual tools. But what do we do with the tools?
What is the concept of universal maths founded on? It is the way specific values have been observed to interact and can be represented with human symbolic mathematics.
What is a Function?
A function relates an input to an output.
Input, Relationship, Output
We will see many ways to think about functions, but there are always three main parts:
- The input
- The relationship
- The output
I believe the mathematical nature of the universe is an inevitable outcome of any system that can develop the way our cosmos has, must by necessity be internally consistent and that this consistency is why math is such a fantastic tool.
The other, turns that on itâs head, as though the math we invented in our heads, is the essence of the universe that created us, and which is actually way beyond our petty self-serving natures to fully accurately comprehend.
This brings us right back to what I mean with that Abrahamic mindset and its hallmark of a supreme Self-Absorption that permeates so many. You believe your mind should be able to grasp the answer to everything. I believe thatâs a fools journey that misleads many, and that has enabled us to ignore the harsh existential realities we should be facing and confronting.
I donât believe in âTruth.â
I believe the best people can do, is convey their experience as honesty as possible.
There is such a thing as âobjective truthâ. Our experience of truth is relative from the observerâs POV.
Well, I need to prep for winter. Must take a few days off. Be well, everyone.!
Of course you do. You just donât realize it.
Connect Walking with Mathematics
Examining walking strides, rates, and calories burned are just some of the ways to connect physical education with math.
Those functions happen even if you are not aware of it.
Talk later.
Thanks, and you be well!
If bugs mastered flight, then water mastered serking a level plane, and magma mastered getting pushed to the surface.
There are no numbers to my walking, except wishful thinking of 34, 24, 36 and I havenât been that in years.
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De Gaulle said that old age is a wreckageâŚ
I begin to appreciate that. I learned to control my weight with a balanced diet program ( no advertising here), but i feel the effects of age by many ways.
It can be described with math. We teach computers to walk using math. But people donât use math to walk.
Definition of using
take, hold, or deploy (something) as a means of accomplishing a purpose or achieving a result; employ.
We donât teach children math first so we can then teach them to walk. We are arenât exrecising our math skills while walking. If we had to stop and do the calculations, weâd never get very far. In some Zen sense, things are what they are, and there are functions that determine everything that goes into walking. But thatâs not the language you use Write.
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Donât get the wrong impression. I am not overweight, just a few pounds more than I wish to be. If you spent most of your adult life around 95-100 lbs and then put on 15-20 lbs after menopause, how do you think youâd feel? Of course, you have to be 4â 11" to understand that better, but I am hardly overweight. Youâre so great at math, you do the faulty BMI crap. BTW, Iâm also a vegetarian, who eats a lot of veggies, so thereâs no need to preach at me about a healthy diet? Then again, you also have to factor in Hashimotoâs too. Thereâs your math problem for the day. Bet you canât mathematically figure in all of that. Bet you canât do the math past the faulty BMI crap, because there is no math for menopause and Hashimotoâs weight gain, despite a vegetarian diet. You canât solve for X in this case.
Being Morgan and no other, i donât give a dam about the equation you propose.
And if i have hurt you, i beg your pardon, i did not mean you were overweight and, any way, i donât judge people from their weight.
i been overweight, my value was not diminished, i am no more, my value has not increased. I have lost weight only for medical reasons.
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Oh Lausten, thatâs a false equivelancy. A bug is a living thing that interacts with and is influenced by its environment.
When it flies it uses aerodynamic principles. It does not know that but it knows how to use these mathematical functions.
Magma just eats everything it comes in contact with and water is a fluid that tries to find mathematical balance in its distribution.
btw. Water can exist in more than one state, depending on the molecule distribution patterns. Water is a mathematical/physical shapeshifter⌠