Sure and when we hear about the making of some favorite songs, it’s surprising how often “deep” lyrics where simply a result of randomly finding a word or phrase that sounded right for that particular piece of music.
I grew up with classical music playing in our home all the time, I like it, marvel at it sometimes, got connected to it because my Dad actually played in Chicago symphony orchestra (cello - his upright base was for jazz) and we got to attend some concert hall performances. Then I became a teenager and found rock’n roll. Never got obsessive the way some friends do, but I sure can enjoyed it, and it can (right time and place) seep into my backbone and I turn into a dancer and cross the line into music as deeply moving spiritual experience - a holy sacrament even.
But the lyrics are very important to me, and I’ve had long discussion with a close musician friend about repetitive lyrics, he’s at least gotten me to the point of accepting that it can make for good music and that it’s ‘ok’ but I still want a good song to tell a good story.
And no matter how many people love the tempo, repeating the same catchy line endlessly drive me up the wall, like is that the best you can do. I’d rather listen to classics like “Deadman’s Curve” to experience the art of matching lyrics to catchy music and story telling.
But like in thedarkness points out, it’s a matter of personal taste, which probably ties into early (before we matriculated into our own independent agents) experiences.
Of course, I agree that tastes vary. But I was addressing the quality of composition, the harmonious flow of soundwaves that resonate with your own physical rhythms. I am sure a head banger loves his incessant drum beats, but that is not art. That is more at a simpler primitive level.
It already has been, you just aren’t paying attention.
It is art.
Demonstrably false. You sound like one of “those” people who think art has to meet some criteria when it really doesn’t.
Wrong, so…so so wrong. That is art whether you accept it or not. The “harmonious flow of sound waves” is also subjective, as evidenced by folks who don’t like that stuff.
Of course it does. In context of Art as the “fine arts”;
The word “fine” does not so much denote the quality of the artwork in question, but the purity of the discipline according to traditional European canons.[7] Except in the case of architecture, where a practical utility was accepted, this definition originally excluded the “useful” applied or decorative arts, and the products of what were regarded as crafts. In contemporary practice, these distinctions and restrictions have become essentially meaningless, as the concept or intention of the artist is given primacy, regardless of the means through which it is expressed.[8]
He has 711 posts. Most of them are attempts to understand some of the worst examples of philosophy and psychology, or descriptions of everything he’s tried but “they” failed him, then there’s all the posts that say he already answered whatever question you asked and/or proved you wrong.
Oh so the exercise of rewriting and explaining it better than you did the last time doesn’t have any place in your world either?
Okay, but to me that’s the sign of a poser.
Someone who has something worth sharing, and knows what the are about has a self interest in improving what/how they are explaining themselves to others.
such a good-faith player can outline their position as many times as needed.
Looks like he still has a lot of work ahead of him, if he’s ever going to refine whatever is going on, to his own satisfaction, or to other’s comprehension.
Surely, you don’t think “that’s wrong” is sufficient for developing any fundament understanding of one’s self?
We are simply providing his journey with the companionship he’s asking for with all of his posts.
Lausten you always seem to have some side remarks regarding my responses to inthedark, are you implying I should ignore him.
Graphic art, traditional category of fine arts, including any form of visual artistic expression (e.g., painting, drawing, photography, printmaking), usually produced on flat surfaces. Design in the graphic arts often includes typography but also encompasses original drawings, plans, and patterns for the decorative arts (e.g., furniture, tapestry, ceramics), interiors, and architecture.
Yes, all forms of expression can be a “fine Art”, depending on the originality, skill, and execution of the work.
An “emoji” is not a “fine Art”, by its very simpicity and variety. They are “doodles” , shorthand for “emotional expressions”. They are used for commercial purposes.
Emoji art is in demand by both customers and businesses. People are looking for emoji to use in their emails, on their websites, and even on t-shirts. Businesses want them to help with advertising and marketing. The History of Emoji Art - Arts Painter
Wait, has inthedark been branded a troll?
I do believe I’ve been respectful, and constructive, even if he rejects it, which is fair game for mentioning in itself. I don’t have the feeling that anyone in this long thread has been nasty or hurtful, and certainly not by intention. So I’m confused at how you read some of these exchanges.
That makes it worse. The words you choose, specific, targeted words about a person’s intelligence, demeanor, and personality, those are not respectful. Those three notes above are from your moderator, I would think about them. If you don’t like them, open a thread in the issues section, as the rules clearly state and I know you know.
Apparently you have missed my posts where I express my suspicions that in thedarkness is not who he says he is. He has a pattern of not bringing up his family or other history unless it supports some argument he has about how his situation is special. I’ve compared his words to titomachina and snowcity, direct copies of phrases. Not to mention the obvious intractable circular illogical refusal to use reason. Oh, and try not responding to him, he stops. Notice that he never goes over and talks about current events or anything else. It’s like he’s programmed to stay within the threads he starts. He rarely even argues that he is a real person, something every troll I have accused of being a bot has done (if memory serves).
The ego-trip is yours, my friend.
Too bad, because you are leading your life in a state of denial, whereas it could be led in harmony, along with all other life that has found their comfort niche.
You can projet your doubts around you, but you have no clue about what other people experience. And your accusations are a defense mechanism that you have invented to protet your own fragile ego.
You want a loyal friend?
Get a dog . It will reward you with unconditional love.
I say this in the spirit of good-will and sincere hope you will make an effort to adapt to what could be a rewarding existence for your own sake.
For the record, my suggestions weren’t about magically fixing anything.
They were suggestions to trying some different things, just for the sake of doing it.
I’ve never been a great schemer or engager, so tend to melt into the background to observe and experience. It’s like my love for geology wasn’t trigger by decision to learn this or that. It developed slowly from simply observing things that made no sense and finding patterns, then slowly formulating questions that I could work on finding the information to resolve.
Guess you could call it a passive approach, but with an active intellect sponging up what I could. Hope that makes some sense.
I’ve found in my case, sometime it’s best to simply let life do what it does, also be prepared and don’t squander gifts and people the universe places within your reach.
*Inthedark, on another tangent, do you feel attacked or demeaned by any words I shared with you? It’s not been my intention and I’m interested in what you think? I also apologize to you if I have, you are exasperating, but I kinda like you, so set me straight on that.
All criticism regarding art is more or less just the ego of the person making it. Art and music is whatever people make it to be which is why you can’t really critique it.
Except it’s not really that based on your replies. This just sounds more like you wanting to be right, and I know because I do the same thing.
There is more to a pet than just “unconditional love”, it’s a huge responsibility that changes your life and not something I want right now. We literally have overrun shelters of these animals because people either didn’t care or underestimated the responsibility and time investment.
Like…I really wonder if you consider some of the consequences and scope of what you suggest.
