Dimitrios Trimijopulos" date="1450444096",
Write4U said,,
Dimitrios, in the history of hominids, ask yourself what came first: Thunderstorms or Gods that made thunderstorms?
A simple question and the answer is obvious: Thunderstorms came first, the rest is hominid imagination based on "fight or flight" instinct.
Also, in deism many large animals were depicted, Bulls with enormous horns, Elephants with large tusks, other animals (dragons) with enormous teeth and claws, Demons (Tulpas). Anything beyond our control was and is believed (assumed) to be controlled by greater, unseen but motivated, powers, to be worshipped and appeased (sacrifice of living things) such as lambs, goats, doves, and on occasion humans (especially virgins).
Giants did actually exist long before man came along, look at paleontology, but the were not hominids and able to mate with humans,, They usually ate them and that's where the concept of blood sacrifice came from.
Those are your Titans or Giants, but of course they became extinct long before hominids appeared. But the fossils of dinosaurs gave birth to the *concept* of Giants (Titans) and Gods.
You insist on pretending to be the expert in a field of knowledge you are entirely ignorant about. Sorry, but your ideas cannot be taken into consideration.
And why should I accept your hypothesis, because you base your argument on the historical inaccuracy of scriptures (hoaxes). So far you have not proved anything why people believe in the supernatural.
You again know the above by means of the inspiration presented to you by the holy ghost!!
According to your theory the ancients saw the bones of large animals and immediately exclaimed: “These are the remains of the Giants who gave birth to the gods who are now sitting on the clouds and send down to us the lightning and the thunder"
On the contrary, that is YOUR position. My position is that there are no gods only mathematical functions and all of mythology is wrong, and products of imagination..
You keep talking about the evolution of the Hoax.Why don't you just say it is a Hoax and prove it scientifically?
My problem with you lies in the fact that regardless of science, these memes of Giants, Titans, Gods, and Spirits continue to exist, without modification. And, of course, in view of the millenia old meme of all mythologyt is impossible to modify the fundamental assumption (imagining) of *intentional* supernatural beings, who SUPPOSEDLY created us in their image.
Modern people believe, as you say above, that supernatural beings created us in their image.
Well, religious people do, don't they? What is your point? I am wrong in making that objective observation? Does that make me an agnostic?
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. – Aristotle
Ancient people said that the lords raped some primitive women and from the hybrids born they kept only those who came out in the lords’ image: us modern people.
NO, nooooo, I won't let you get away with that. You are again shifting terms to suit your argument again. The origial quote you used was "god's image", not "lord's image, which would be just the powerful and privileged", just powerful humans who took what they wanted. Which is my position. But your problem is that you do't see the hierarchical order of powerful people. Plain old power politics.
You prejudice is fogging you mind and cannot see anything beyond the theological nonsense you are fed in your entire life.
Wrong again, I was brought up Atheist and to me the entire history of giants, titans, gods and other mythological figures are from ignorance of the natral world. It is YOUR prejudice that stands in the way of reason.
You have to listen to the words of the ancients before pronouncing judgment.
Listening to ancient mythology wil reveal a true picture of the way it happened, does not proveanything about the mythology itself. It's all made up .
You have to make a list of what it was said about Giants and decide whether the characteristics attributed to Giants describe some large animals or an extinct race of Homo sapiens. As long as you have not done that, what you assert is just noise. But you see, I have investigated that, and it is entirely natural for primitive man to assume the existence of Giants, Titans, or gods. If you know nothing of paleontology, finding a dinosaur thigh bone as tall as a human, it is entirely reasonable that primitive man believed in the existence of human Giants (Titans).
I prefer to listen to scientists such as paleontologists who provide proof of their theories, such as carbon dating and DNA.
No one has ever found a 6 foot thigh bone with human DNA, and therfore could not have come into the daughters of man.
You are the one talking nonsense. And as I said once before you have absolutely no idea of what I know and do not know.
In fact, you are a contrarian who offends agnostics instead of seriously discussing the evolution of the universe the earh and its living creatures to give an agnostic a sense of the way evolution works, thereby encouraging them to investigate further. Instead you dismiss agnostics as ignorant fools. Behold Dimitrios, our latest prophet. Al you create is divisiveness. Just look at this discussion between confirmed atheists.
btw, most agnostics were brought up in the religious tradition but do not accept Scripture as Thruth and question their religion.
Now you come along and insult these people as "ignorant fools".
One thing is abundantly clear, you know nothing about the human mind and the psychology of memes, Tulpas.
But if you are not interested in what I have to say, why should I be interested in what you have to say. Your hubris is abundantly clear. If that is your way of combating the spiritual belief systems, you are going in the wrong direction, my friend and fellow atheist. You just want to historically alter the Hoax as if that would turn the Hoax into Truth. Nice try, but no cigar.