Should we just give up the debate?

I often post to create a reference. In this case, I will be using it right away from a different thread. This is a discussion of how debating belief with believers is not just frustrating, it can help the religious. Drew, with a lot of experience, is considering how we frame these debates. He examines just what the “marketplace of ideas” is and notes that it ignores human emotional motivation. It’s not a question of whether we are rational or emotional, it’s a question of how we forward a movement toward a more enlightened future given who we are.

The key point to me is when he says, the marketplace is an ideal, it’s not the world we live in. I think many of my other posts are in line with this, it’s just always nice to hear it stated succinctly.

In the first minute, he references a recent video of his, where he talks about the frustration of trying to talk with believers publicly. In that one, which is tough to get through, he relates his experience of near despair for the work that he does, but at 31 minutes in, he says we shouldn’t give up. He says, “people change because of human connection and real-life experiences.” Some of those experiences we can have more or less on our own and some happen in conversations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89-LYo0KsWc