Seculiarism and Death.

Despite all the efforts at downplaying the significance of death and the dismissal of my attempt to examine this phenomenon, the alarm caused by the Covid pandemic has wreaked havoc to the national economy. And it’s all because of death.

Death is scary and a big deal only when it is staring at you in the face. And the John Hopkins University is shoving it in all our faces daily with it Covid death update currently at 74,844. You can die if you don’t wash your hands. You can die if I don’t wear a mask. You can die if I get closer than 6 feet of you. You can die if there are more than ten people with you. You can die if schools reopen.

If only we would inquire into and understand death, we wouldn’t be so scared.

This latest post makes no more sense than the one you stated with. You constantly say you some answer or another then don’t deliver

There have been hundreds, if not thousands, of people who have been declared dead by medical people and later came back to life.
I find this claim very doubtful. Do you seriously expect us to believe that there have been thousands of people who have been declared dead by medical people and later came back to life? Came back when? After they've been wrapped in a shroud, placed inside a coffin, and buried under six feet of dirt? Opps - too late then. Maybe we should start burying people with their cellphones.

Death, in the medical sense, is no great mystery. Although the process of dying may be protracted and unruly, the final result, I submit, is physicaly unmistakeable. It is only at this point that a death certificate is issued. Only then can the deceased be properly spoken of as being “declared dead.” Show us properly vetted evidence for life after this kind of death. Don’t give us personal testimony or anecdotal evidence, it doesn’t count.

I find this claim very doubtful. Do you seriously expect us to believe that there have been thousands of people who have been declared dead by medical people and later came back to life?
I don't know who made this claim. At any rate, seems like it's a claim about the death of the body. This topic is not about the death of the body. It's about the death of you, the person who is afraid of Covid 19 and standing in the way of reopening the economy so that other people can get on with their lives.
It was Bob who said the thing about people coming back to life.
I could give him the benefit of the doubt and think he is a little confused about "declared dead" and very loose with "later". But anyway, death of the body, me, whatever, doesn't change my thoughts on trading off old people for an economy. Especially an economy that creates children dying in Africa every few seconds, mountaintops being blown off causing death in the towns below, and air that isn't breathable.
sree said; standing in the way of reopening the economy so that other people can get on with their lives.
You mean standing the way of the viruses so that they can get on with their non-lives? You know that we are fighting zombies, don't you?

Good point Write. It is like we are in a version of “The Walking Dead”. Except the zombies (aka, “walkers”) are invisible.

To make matters worse, some of our fellow (so far) survivors are all for just pretending that there are no invisible zombies, or at least not enough to be concerned about.

So they inevitably help spread the ranks of the invisible zombies. Which makes things worse for all of us.

I could give him the benefit of the doubt and think he is a little confused about “declared dead” and very loose with “later”.
Bob is not confused, medical science is. Death, even for the body, is not as definite a certainty as taxes.
But anyway, death of the body, me, whatever, doesn’t change my thoughts on trading off old people for an economy.
There is more than one way for people to fade away like last winter's snow. Being old and unhealthy are conditions we have to deal with. The snow has to go, one way or another. No one is trading off old people. Salmon season don't stop just because some can't make it upstream.
Especially an economy that creates children dying in Africa every few seconds, mountaintops being blown off causing death in the towns below, and air that isn’t breathable.
It's noble to care about all those things. Unless each of us have a $100 billion, it best to focus on getting our back-breaking small businesses re-opened sowe can feed the old people and kids in our own families.

You still don’t get it.

The economy is screwed because of C-19. If we don’t deal with that correctly, letting more old people die off, isn’t going to bring the economy back.

Plus it’s not just the old and sickly that are dying and suffering before their time.

Our US death total will be over 100 thousand, in a couple of weeks. If we just helter skelter try to get everyone doing what we did before, then we’ll be talking multiples of 100K before we’re done.

Hmm. Helter Skelter would be a good name for T rump’s pandemic plan from the get-go. “An absolutely chaotic disaster” someone nice has called it.

Plus it’s not just the old and sickly that are dying and suffering before their time.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a-nurse-without-an-n95-mask-raced-in-to-treat-a-code-blue-patient-she-died-14-days-later/ar-BB13ROGF?ocid=spartanntp

Brave, self-sacrificing healthcare workers are dying, too. If we are not careful, many more of them will be lost this year.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/10/new-york-mystery-coronavirus-illness-three-children-die

And, now it appears that children are being affected by a severe syndrome that appears to be related to COVID-19.