Pure Science vs Political Science

My viewpoint. On this site, getting close to maybe two decades ago I was debating the 1988 gaslighting of scientific data concerning fire management of Yellowstone Park. Hearings had been held to show the people of Wyoming the science of fire management by highly educated scientists, a resistance of the science was heard from the Wyoming population. Government’s science showed that the fire program was good for the park and all the animals in the park.

That government program was thrown out after it burnt down a large portion of the park and caused havoc for the animals. A full recovery will take a century.

That same problem of fuel management is showing up in the LA fires controlled by environmental regulations.

The common factor in both disasters is political science controlling the science outcome over pure science.

I see the same issues with climate change.

Our intelligence agencies spend a vast amount of funds on political science to be able to control governments around the world. Political science came to be in about the same period as pure science.

The term for this dominance of one group over another is called “hegemony”. Hegemony is taught in schools like Harvard and Georgia Tech.

CIA hegemony projects?

The shadow agency: Uncovering the CIA covert actions …

CIA and Guatemala Assassination Proposals 1952-1954

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Hegemony and Empire

HEGEMONY AND THE TRIPARTITE STATE

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The Threat to American Hegemony Is Real

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The groups in hegemony are “allocentrism” and “idiocentrism”. Along with individualism and collectivism.

The word “hegemony” itself comes from the Greek word “hēgemonia,” which means “leadership” or “dominance.” In ancient Greece, hegemony described the situation where one city-state held significant political and military power over other city-states, often through alliances or coercion.

Modern interpretation:

While the term originated in ancient Greece, the concept of hegemony has been expanded in modern political theory, particularly by Marxist scholar Antonio Gramsci, to encompass broader notions of cultural and ideological dominance beyond just military power.

What do people think about hegemony being used to control Climate Change?

The making of hegemonic knowledge in climate governance

Hegemony in International Policy: The Climate Change Regime -Oxford Academic.

Defending hegemony: From climate change mitigation to …

The role of major powers Climate governance in an … discussion is theoretically framed accordingly to an international system under a conservative hegemony,

Will the Fight for Hegemony Survive Climate Change?

Evolutions in hegemonic discourses of climate change

Hegemonic stories in environmental advocacy testimonials

Analyzing the elements of counter-hegemonic climate …

Is hegemony pure science?

AI - No, hegemony is not considered “pure science” because it is primarily a concept within the social sciences, particularly political science and sociology, focusing on power dynamics and cultural influence, which inherently involve subjective interpretations and analysis of complex social phenomena, rather than strictly measurable data like in natural sciences; although it can be studied through empirical methods, the core concept of hegemony is inherently theoretical and qualitative.

Is the IPCC hegemony or pure science?

Exploring the impact of the IPCC Assessment Reports on …

For instance, it has been claimed that the IPCC exercises some sort of “epistemological hegemony” on the issue of global warming …

Epistemological hegemony is the dominance of one way of thinking or knowing over others. It can also refer to the subordination of other ways of knowing.

In essence, epistemic hegemony is the situation in which the notions of hegemonic dominance have ingrained themselves into the collective episteme and thus the social construction of knowledge itself. In other words, what is considered proper “Knowledge”, and “Common sense” is hegemonically determined.

20/20 hindsight. Now, if you’d been on here in 1986 arguing for changes then you’d have something

Now we get to Mike Gish Gallop stage - which to be clear is an invitation to provide factual corrections and links to sources the honestly curious people could use for some constructive self education.

How many years have you been studying wild fires and managing wild lands?

Are you Mike Yohe capable of recognizing let alone acknowledging your own lack of understanding and bias, that is founded on your own rock solid political philosophy of, shall we say Reagonomics evolved into MAGA trumpsterism and such? Endless growth, Profits over people, Greed is good mentality? Power is better than sex!

You like soundbites and distractions, and always implying the worst in others, especially the experts, who ironically know way the heck more about a specific topic than you or I.

CenterOfTheWest.org/2020/09/25/points-west-yellowstone-fires-1988.

In his A Fire History of America, historian Stephen Pyne wrote that the enduring narrative of the Big Blowup wildfire of August 1910 (a deadly forest fire across northeast Washington state, the panhandle of Idaho, and western Montana) made it a meaningful event, but 1988 “left the interpretation of the fires—so vast they just had to mean something—unresolved.”

I searched for resolution during a week studying the 1988 print media collection in the McCracken Research Library at the Buffalo Bill Center for the West in Cody, Wyoming. I saw how some media outlets—especially regional ones—accurately portrayed the evolution of ecological understanding that led to a shift in fire management philosophy, the so-called “let-burn” policy. I saw how other media outlets gave equal time to non-scientists who doubted both this philosophy and the government’s ability to implement it effectively. In general, media coverage of the fires’ science was better than I expected.

But what if the controversy wasn’t really about science? In the language of print media coverage, I found a surprising indicator of cultural importance …

The Story Behind the Yellowstone Fires of 1988 | Retro Report | The New York Times

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