Nah, he gets a lot of help for such deliberate liars such as Anthony Watts the cherry picking weather man, Morano the moron, Mr. Satellite fraudsters such as Christy and Spencer, and so on and so forth, bet he’s even into the Lord's word as final judgement
Science by slander and deception is their stock and trade.
just say’n
CC, I will just save myself the time and assume that you will bad mouth 5 of the 7 papers. Let’s just stay on subject for the next decade as the political agenda your pushing plays out.Can I call you a jack ass?
Learning is about sharing information.
So why aren’t you into sharing information?
Is it perhaps you’re tired of having “your sources” exposed as works of propaganda rather than sober science?
You buddy boy are the politically motivated propagandist in this discussion.
So why aren’t you into sharing information?
I didn’t scroll back to page 5 because that’s too much effort for a Mike post. Pretty funny that he just gave you a number, then when you asked the data, he just admitted you would find something wrong with it. Mike has been doing that for years. I picture a garage full of boxes with old magazines stuffed in them and his own handwritten notes here and there. Nothing valuable of course, quantity, no quality.
Player. No, it is not my data. I follow the people, business and governments that need to know what is going on. For example, if you are a reinsurance company and have $30B of second stage hurricane insurance exposure. You are going to want to know what the earth is going to do when it comes to hurricanes. If you are a government and you are told that the sea level is going up 20 feet in twelve years. You need to act now. There must be a billion dollars of building and construction bonds sold daily that would be affected by weather. These bonds may cover from one to twenty years and have a liability that expands for a much longer period of time.
Put yourself in their shoes. Do you think that their business actions are telling us that they believe that the catastrophic predictions are more political or scientific based? Are they offering more products based upon Mann’s pathway or are they following Curry’s pathway? Follow the money. Mann’s pathway has always followed the money supplied by the government because of the fear and dooms day predictions. That’s the taxpayer’s money. Curry’s pathway is hard earned business money.
J Curry’s remarks. Forecasts in late May are driven by the needs of the reinsurance industry. Circulation patterns of relevance to Atlantic hurricanes generally are in place by the end of June. In a few months, we will know which forecasting group has read the tea leaves correctly.
Curry’s Funding sources has included NSF, NASA, NOAA, DOD and DOE. Recent government contracts for CFAN include a DOE contract. In the private sector and other non-governmental organizations include energy and power companies, reinsurance companies, financial companies, other weather service providers, NGOs, development banks and government agencies.
You got political driven taxpayers grants pathway of climate science and the hard-core business dollar pathway of climate science.
Knowledge is just comparison of data. Wisdom is understanding that knowledge. It is the wisdom that we need to be watching and following right now. Do you think AOC has that wisdom?
Lausten, I went through that, get the data to me with you Lausten years ago. It is just total dishonesty on your part. You have no where to go with the debate. So, you just send me on a task and in your mind, you have won the debate. When I get the data. You never answer or even read it. If I ask for data from you. I never get it. Do you read all of CC’s data dumps?
That’s another Contrarian Tactic. Attack and label, never examine the items in question.
Mike calls them data dumps. Mike why must you cloak that in such dripping contempt? What do you fear?
Perhaps, they are Data Dumps. What terrifies you is that they are serious, authoritative data dumps, occasionally articles about serious authoritative studies that are quoted and linked to. After all we are such a bunch of non-experts kicking around what the experts are sharing with us.
Yes Mike, I’m weirdly crazy obsessed with sharing serious information - (under the happy-illusion that people actually want to learn about their world and care about truth and honesty. I think I want to continue although every day drives the point of its utter futility a little deeper. Guess, we’re down to Xian’s dilemma and I choose the journey, having given up on the destination.) - to help people get a grip on the reality of our life supporting biosphere and the climate engine that drives it. All our MikeYohe has is, name calling, dishonest categorizations, focusing on people’s opinions, rather than focusing on what the geophysics is telling us - and avoidance, oh jesus are they good at avoidance and sowing confusion. Pretty slimy goals in my book.
He’s also displays an endless faith in corporations that have become more powerful than governments, who are filled with Directors and Executives who believe increasing their Me First power and their bonus packages is all life is about. You go mikie. Oh yeah that’s my politics showing - but none of that reduces the reality that scientists have learned about, and can explain, in exquisite detail to anyone curious, and intellectually spiritually, honest enough to want learn.
Mike Yohe: I never get it.That's pretty accurate.
And I understand why, it’s because you are the one who’s hung up on the politics and winning arguments, rather than constructively learning.
Me, I’m hung up on understanding this physical planet Earth and the life support system we depend on. But you wouldn’t know about that sort of jazz.
Do you read all of CC’s data dumps?Don't see how that's relevant.
When I get the data. You never answer or even read it. If I ask for data from you. I never get it.I'm sure that's true in your mind. But that's my whole point. Things go in your head and get mixed around in ways that none of us understand.
Really!