Misogyny, Extremism, and Gun Violence 1.13.2022

Sounds very specious. Violence and misogyny have always existed, and men are objectively more respectful of women today than they were in the 50’s. Not to mention far less masculine. Even Boomers who grew up on the old John Wayne style culture weren’t that masculine.

If you had read further in what I said, that’s what I said.

I’m way behind on this thread. My internet is crap right now, but, what sets incels apart is they blame women for not dating them. They say women want bad relationships, and they are the good guys, that women are dumb because they don’t see how good they (the incels) are.

Some of them then justify violence from that

Read the book, you’ll see what I mean. The author quotes quite a bit from the actual books and whatnot the evangelicals wrote and it’s amazing, for example, to paraphrase, ‘women, you are to be totally subservient to men, including and especially as far as sex goes’. These books and articles and classes were extremely popular evidently. Advice like this was popular: Your husband works hard, he doesn’t need you nagging him, instead wear something sexy, something different every day he comes home from work. That kind of thing. I have a feeling alot of it was sort of like the Fifty Shades of Grey of its day - socially acceptable soft porn.

It’s curious how easily you speak for women.
Now I’m curious, how much experience as a woman do you have?

I’ve been around enough women to know they don’t like porn.

I don’t doubt the book goes into that stuff, but I disagree that kind of attitude has made today’s men more aggressive. Evangelicals don’t even strike me as particularly manly.

You nailed it, but they commit a very small percentage of overall gun violence.

He’s obviously not been around enough women.

State your source, please.

There are no stats on what exactly motivates gun violence. But the majority is related to gang activity.

And while some like to equate mass shootings with misogyny, these make up a small percentage of all gun violence. Nor do most mass shooters show evidence of being driven by misogyny.

You yourself claimed porn is misogynistic. Most women will agree or just find it boring.

And then you go on to claim to know these stats?

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Then do not claim that there are stats if there are no stats and do not claim that the majority is related to gang activity if there are no stats on gun violence against women. Unless you can show the stats do not claim there are or state something you can’t back up.

Yes, I did and yes most women would agree. My question is, how much women’s literature, women’s history, women’s movement, and reading of women’s mags, like MS magazine, have you read? Do you even understand what the ERA, the women’s movement is about? It’s not just about being able to get an abortion if we want/need to get one. It also has nothing to do with “bra burning”. Bra burning never actually happened.

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I don’t know much about the women’s movement, but it seemed to have been more about “dry” issues like careers, money etc than sexual behavior. I think the feminists – maybe not all – were trying to change the cultural attitudes about women and sex but not many women cared about those things. But pretty much all women cared about improving domestic abuse laws, family planning options, protection for single moms and so on.

Violence specifically against women is well documented. We know it’s not a big part of gun violence.

Not seeing the misogyny here.

Of course you’re not seeing it, because they aren’t showing it in what he’s posting, but it is there in the Oath Keepers. The Oath Keepers have been planning a takeover of government for a long time. Once they takeover, the rights of women and minorities will be gone. That’s part of their plan because in their religious beliefs, only they are pure and only they should govern and control.

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