If the lense is insufficiency, then one will always find insufficiency.
Socialist and communist like to do that, in order capitalize on fear and resentment, and gain power.
That’s not my lense.
The current system depends on poor people. You can’t have yachts that carry smaller yachts if you don’t have children working themselves to death on the other side of the world.
The automatization, fueled by liberalism, greatly improved the working conditions of workers.
Sorry, must have said “If the lense is insufficiency, then one will always find insufficiency and only see insufficiencies”.
Yes, of many workers. Both of my grandfathers benefitted from the auto industry, transforming my family tree from generations of suffering into the modern world.
But that doesn’t make the conditions of half the world disappear. We have changed from kings and serfs to billionaires and chronic poverty. You can measure the improvements and claim some prosperity but you can’t claim to have created a system that solves the problem of a lack of prosperity.
Well, because it takes some time, right? It has already went extreeemely fast, on the scale of thousands of years of stagnation.
And I may ask: what are the systems of those poor countries? Are there liberal or illiberal?
So, you’re going to presume that the reason they are poor is because of their political systems?
Well, that might be an important factor, right?
Oh, no, you are not going to throw the leninist “imperialist” thing (Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism)?
I’m not going to make that conclusion a-priori. Do you have a point to make? Why is it an important factor? Give an example. And don’t presume what I’m going to throw at you, please.
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Have you been to the mountains in West Virginia or the shacks on southside of Detroit?
How can a political system (liberal or illiberal) not have an influence on the economy?
No, I have been only in SF.
But surely you know about those places. And what is this question about how political systems influence economies? Isn’t that what you’ve been talking about?
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It’s had hundreds of years. Alternatives keep getting presented, and shown to make a difference and capitalists keep saying, “don’t worry, all boats will eventually float”
Why some countries are poor ? The question would be worth its own topic.
How can there not be a god? Ridiculous question, right?
I don’t get it. And it appears to be rhetorical, as if someone suggested political choices don’t affect economies.
I’m saying (clumsily?) tell me how the economy is affected, Not just that it must be. I might agree with one example but I don’t know from the question exactly what I’m responding to.
You’re not seriously asking that ridiculous question on this forum are you? You do know you’ll probably get more “there is no god” statements than you will the lame “there is a god”. Of course anyone who says there is one has the burden of proof.
Yeah I know. I was agreeing with you that Lozenge’s question was weird. Written word is hard.