If you were wrong about everything you believed true, would you want to know?

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I’m sure this question had been asked many times in the past in many various ways, but it had been a question that I had to come to grips with about myself. I found it my nature to be attracted to those whose ideas aligned with mine and even went so far as to solidify my beliefs on the basis that others understood/agreed with my line of thinking. I hit my 30’s, and for some reason which I could never recall, I questioned my beliefs in whether a God existed or not. The idea of an omniscient/omnipotent/ immortal spoiled child made no sense to me so I fell back to the beliefs of my birth. I became an Atheist. If everything I believed to be true was wrong, would I want to know? For me, it was an easy yes.

Truth > Belief

I made the mistake of asking my brother of 8 years greater than my own who happens to be a Catholic this very question. He took into consideration of my question but didn’t have an answer only to respond “I’ll have to get back to you on that.” It’s been some 15 years and I still haven’t got an answer from him. The reason I argue for mistake is that maybe he didn’t need to have the question asked. Of my other four siblings, he has been the most caring and moral, so my shaking his beliefs was more of a reflection of my own ego, than his moment of self-doubt.

What your answer is in regard to the question is no longer of consequence to me. It’s not a question you tell other of yourself but of the one you ask yourself. My question to the forum is if there is a better way to ask this question? I’d be happy to shred, destroy, attack, and humiliate anyone who disagrees with it.

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If you were wrong about everything you believed true, would you want to know?
That seems a well worded straightforward question, don't think it needs any tweaking.

Getting a constructive answer out of it, is another matter.

My question to the forum is if there is a better way to ask this question?

I’d be happy to shred, destroy, attack, and humiliate anyone who disagrees with it.


What are you wanting? To shred, destroy attack and humiliate someone?

 

Are you aware that some people learn to question themselves and their beliefs from early on in their lives.

In fact, I always thought self skepticism was a way of life for most scientifically minded people. We grown up asking questions, searching for evidence and arriving at answers, and then improving on those answers with further questions born out of new insights.

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That seems a well worded straightforward question, don’t think it needs any tweaking.

Getting a constructive answer out of it, is another matter.


Good point. There was really nothing open-ended about the post leaving much for outside input.

What are you wanting? To shred, destroy attack and humiliate someone?
Yeah, I figured this was a bit much. I was being absurd knowing full well that people might take it seriously.
Are you aware that some people learn to question themselves and their beliefs from early on in their lives.
This by no means was me, but I respect those who have done it.
In fact, I always thought self skepticism was a way of life for most scientifically minded people. We grown up asking questions, searching for evidence and arriving at answers, and then improving on those answers with further questions born out of new insights.
As much as we disagree, I couldn't agree with you more here. Schools should teach more about critical thinking, and how to be scientifically minded so that kids can grow up to be discerning adults who easily recognize facts, from opinion. Media articles both left and right are more divisive than ever creating highly misleading, inflammatory NEWS just so people click on their websites. If the world were to burn, the media would have a field day. Teach kids how not to get manipulated by these things, and we won't end up with a tribalistic society, but as it stands, I think we're on a downward spiral.
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As an example someone who’s world view is based on American exceptionalism?

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I hit my 30’s, and for some reason which I could never recall, I questioned my beliefs in whether a God existed or not. The idea of an omniscient/omnipotent/ immortal spoiled child made no sense to me so I fell back to the beliefs of my birth. I became an Atheist. If everything I believed to be true was wrong, would I want to know? For me, it was an easy yes.
I consider myself agnostic. Willing to admit if at some time I am standing before the pearly gates I'll say "Holy $@!+ You Are real!"

As for the first part, I’d ask - What took you so long? ?

 

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Willing to admit if at some time I am standing before the pearly gates I’ll say “Holy $@!+ You Are real!”
It's funny that. You know, I can relate to the notion, but need to go back to my 20s self. What if I'm wrong, what are the odds? With time and a focus on learning about evolution, my body, and this Earth, and the human species, all that fretting about religious imagery dissipated like so much fog on sunny morning. The idea of an after life, heaven, St. Peter, etc. feels as real to me as memories of My Favorite Martian.

I mean, I’ve uncovered the gem within the Holy Bible, it’s Jesus’s Passion.

Saint Jesus and his Passion, the suffering, self-doubt, self-recognition, the dying on the cross of our own creation, the resurrection, the renewal and hope. It’s that lesson plan and guide for how to behave, think, and survive trying times. That’s why the Bible has transcended and become the number one religion for generations of western minded go-getters.) Jesus’s story is magical to our inner living spirit, people need something like that, different cultures and life styles produce different stories, but something, anything, that can offer us transcending hope in hopeless times.

Then clever people learn how to bottle it and get rich off of the unthinking masses, and the rest is history…

 

From my perspective the most important fundamental reality to reconcile oneself with is the fact of our minds being the product of the Physical Reality of our bodies, the biology, the evolution history, the stuff that is right here inside of us. No need to dream about distant infinities, when there’s an inner infinity, right here behind your bellybutton and inside of you that’s you need to get to know. That physical mammalian creature that you are has a body/brain, that’s created a self-reflecting mind, like none other in the universe.

The rest flows from there.

 

 

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[quote=“mitch70, post:1, topic:8063”]
What your answer is in regard to the question is no longer of consequence to me. It’s not a question you tell other of yourself but of the one you ask yourself. My question to the forum is if there is a better way to ask this question? I’d be happy to shred, destroy, attack, and humiliate anyone who disagrees with it.
What an odd way to pose a question. Tell me what yo think but I will ignore anything you say does not make for constructive exchange.

Care to rethink that rejectionist attitude ? You might even learn something new.
No one is demanding that you must change your mind.

This forum especially is trying to promote constructive debate and freedom of expression.
There is no need for “destructive discourse”. That can only be destructive.

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“If the truth makes you uncomfortable, blame the lies that made you comfortable.”

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Mitch/DJ was silenced a long time ago. He pretty much requested it