Have you heard of a herd of moving moss balls?

@ timb

Electronic artificial computers use binary coding at micro level. Why should the brain not be an electro-chemical organic computer based on processing of qubits of coded values at micro scale? If we consider the entire neural network then micro processes become macro processes. How does a beehive acquire a hive mind? Hameroff, as a expert in anesthesia clearly demonstrates the only biological machinery of the macrotubule, which is common to all living things, is an efficient information processing platform.

If we assume that consciousness is an result of evolutionary processes, it woud follow that it was a refinement of simple sensory reactive behavior, such already can be found in single celled organisms.

If it is an evolved ability it has to be organic in nature. If that true, microtubules are the only data processing organelles that could qualify as a platform for a form of hive mind to emerge from the neural network. IMO, the notion that the neural network gives rise to an emergent consciousness is already mainstream thinking. We were not able to observe it at nano-scales, until fairly recently.

In fact it is Hameroff who read Penrose’s book on quantum processes and came up with the idea that microtubules were the obvious candidate.

I believe that the MT network offers a range of evolutionary refinements and more than likely form the platform for higher consciousness.

As you said, we know we are conscious, it’s a “hard fact”. There must be an organic mechanism that makes this hard fact possible…:slight_smile:

Write: "Electronic artificial computers use binary coding at micro level. Why should the brain not be an electro-chemical organic computer based on processing of qubits of coded values at micro scale?...

…we know we are conscious, it’s a “hard fact”. There must be an organic mechanism that makes this hard fact possible…:)"


Yes, and I am proud of you for trying to figure out the micro level organic mechanism for how our neurological system actually functions. What I will typically rail against, however is the assertion, or even the implication that there is some difficult problem of explaining consciousness that is insurmountable.

Hence, I always reply to such that there is, already, a quite reasonable macro explanation, that explains what consciousness is. And I insist that the claim that seeing red somehow makes consciousness inexplicable, is bogus.

As to how the micro becomes the macro, I leave that to your more sophisticated thinking processes.

 

Ahhh…lol

It’s that little coil that dynamically controls its own self-assembly what intrigues me. And the potential implications may be far ranging.

It’s those "questions"about as yet undefined science that intrigue me…“what if”???

 

p.s watch this outstanding video of electron miscroscope filming of microtubular behaviors. This is at microscale and absolutely fascinating.

Motility is the key to survival

A little visual of microtubule assisted “mitosis”

Note the fractal function which eventually build complex bio-chemical patterns.