Lois:
Thatoneguy, In what way, exactly are Muslims different from Westerners? Please be specific.
Player: is there an end times on the Koran?
Islamic Apocalypse: 6 Things You Should Know
Patrick D wrote
Final word: A sa first year undergraduate, my tutor asked the group to go away, and over the next week to find a universally accepted definition of the word ‘race’. , Guess wot? Nobody found one. My idealistic tutor then asserted “On this planet there is only one race of people; the human race”
Lois: He was right. If you or I or anyone on this forum were indoctrinated into the Islamic faith, we’d be just like all other Muslims and we’d think and act the way they do—and vice versa.
Lois: He was right. If you or I or anyone on this forum were indoctrinated into the Islamic faith, we’d be just like all other Muslims and we’d think and act the way they do—and vice versa.
Just so.
A life observation is that for most people, their religious, moral/ethical and political beliefs are an accident of birth.–Even if they rebel as teens, the form of their rebellion and choices available remain an accident of birth. I’m beginning to think there is no such thing as an individual in the abstract sense.
It is also my observation that few people ever really think consciously about their beliefs or world view; those things are simply the natural order to them. I guess one reason there are so few atheists compared with the number of believers.
Socrates claimed that “the unexamined life is not worth living.”(said at his trial for corrupting youth) Not sure I agree. I lean more towards “if ignorance is bliss, t’is folly to be wise”–If I had my druthers, I’d druther be stupid and happy than smart and miserable. Of course, smart and happy is my ideal. BUT, no level of mental acuity can guarantee one’s existential state as far as I can tell…—
Patrick D., maybe. However I consider myself to be smart and happy (as happy as it’s possible to be in this hellish world). I’m glad that I don’t feel a need to find false comfort in a theistic religion. I find enough comfort in rational thinking. Once I broke away from religion, I never wanted to go back to self-delusion.
It’s true that people, by and large, stay with the religion they were indoctrinated into. If that were not the case, people would be leaving their religion in droves. We know this does not happen. Those who move out from their birth religion represent a very small minority. Most who do go from the false comforts of one religion to the false comforts of another one. another. Only a few go from religion to atheism. It’s very difficult for most people to give up the false comforts of religion.
Lois
“Only a few go from religion to atheism. It’s very difficult for most people to give up the false comforts of religion”
Whats the justification for this claim??
What am I supposed to be justifying? It’s a true statement. If you deny it, present your rebuttal.
How did you determine its true?
That’s for you to figure out. Hint: it takes common sense, which you may well be lacking. Tough luck.
You cant explain. Just another empty assertion
Player wrote:
You cant explain. Just another empty assertion
Must be. You are obviously the world expert in empty assertions.
L
How did you account for the other possibilities?
Such as?
Really? You cant think of any? How about those that are culturally religious but otherwise secular?
What about all those who fear coming out as atheist would mean isolation from family and friends?
Player: What about all those who fear coming out as atheist would mean isolation from family and friends?
When did fear ever do anything positive? If fear of isolation is your only reason for not thinking logically, you’re in derp trouble.
If everyone allowed fear to run their lives and thoughts, you’d be a caveman, at best, howling at the moon.
thats not the question