Not that I am advocating for this, but hemp makes incredibly good pellets
Of course, the problem with burning carbon rich fuel is exactly the same for hemp as for wood.
Burning any of these type pellets releases enormous quantities of carbon into the atmosphere.
What we want is to conserve the carbon sequestration by Tree forests and Industrial Hemp forests. Grow the hemp for cash crop, and trees for aesthetic beauty, wildlife preservation, and local special purposes.
And I wonder how much pollution is produced in manufacturing and transporting those pellets.
But as long as those energy companies can claim a “Biofuels” credit, it’s not on them… 
I hear you babe. I’ve always wondered about solutions that are more complicated than the problem trying to be rectified.
Which forces change. That’s it purpose
I was one of the 12,000 people registered to enter the site of the Vogtle Nuclear Plant during construction of units 1 and 2. The energy consumed by all those people going to and from the site and the manufacture, transportation and installation of all the materials required to build the plant was more (so I have heard) than will ever be produced by the plant.
All human activity is always a net loss game. Basic thermodynamics tells us that activity never breaks even. You just can’t get more out of a system than you put in to it. Perpetual motion doesn’t happen.
The only way to control climate change without a degradation of lifestyle is to control population. The world’s population has tripled in my lifetime. Unless we do something it will triple again in the lifetime of some reading this.
We cannot triple food production, clean water availability, energy production, cities, airports, roads and railroads, and everything else we need and want without losing something else. The planet is a finite resource. They’re not making more land and we’re already short on fresh water.
If the rest of you don’t control population climate won’t be an issue; civilization as you know it won’t survive. I will be dead in a few years so it won’t impact me that much, but I feel really sorry for your grandchildren and their grandchildren. I chose not to have kids, and I’m glad; I’m not responsible for the population problem.
To I believe
But you don’t believe
That doesn’t counter the " it’s all because of world population level" bull
It counters that cynical example of your grotesque attempt at racial humor.
No. Mine speaks to global inequality
Like a fat kid in Africa?
I agree in principle, but the statistic you cite is not strictly true.
The exponential law determines a doubling time (DT) of 70 years from just 1 % steady growth. This is a very important factoid and can be used for everything that has a steady growth rate.
1% p/yr = 70 yr DT
2% p/yr = 35 yr DT
7% p/yr = 10 yr DT
etc.
The population growth rate in the past 70 years has been slowing
form doubling every 35 years (@2% p/yr) to about 70 years (@1% p/yr)
Today the world population is 7.674 billion @ 1.05 % growth rate = DT of 66.67 years. (70/1.05)
Hanging your hat on there needs to be a reduction in population is not only unrealistic as a solution to AGW in the time scale for action but it also puts you in bed with the eugenics psychopaths
You are the one who is making psychopathic jokes on the blight of African children who are starving and dying by the thousands.
I am merely citing facts, a commodity you are unfamiliar with.
I make no recommendations. I have stated my position in regards to AGW.
You just make meaningless noise, as if being anti-war is a special moral POV, that sets you apart from the crowd. Perhaps it does from your crowd.
The report on climate change cited above is completely accurate in it’s pessimistic assessment of what the future holds. We have already fallen over the cliff but we haven’t hit the ground yet. Some of us have noticed that we no longer have our feet on the ground and the world looks like it’s been turned sideways while others assure us there’s really nothing to worry about. Still others who can see it’s a long way to the bottom figure “I don’t care I’ll likely die before I hit the ground so it won’t affect me, so it’s somebody else’s problem.”
The above report describes the problem in succinct and realistic terms. I voted for Joe Biden but how can we expect him or his administration to bring the radical and beneficial change needed to deal with this crisis when he’s wedded to the old ways of doing things. Exhibit A is as stated above his request to oil producing nations to increase supply of the very product and activity that brought us to this dangerous point in our history. I voted for Joe and given the same choice would do so again but Joe Biden is yesterdays man. He simply doesn’t have the drive or the imagination to do what’s needed. We need a president (because only a president can command the national conversation that jolts us out of our complacency) who isn’t afraid of bringing this vital issue to the forefront of national attention. This is not likely to happen any time soon and by the time it does happen it will be to late. The earth itself will take care of this problem and it will do so through a sustained global cataclysm. It’s just to late. We’ve blundered over the precipice.
The great dilemma lies in the choices that are available.
What we consider good and healthy, compounds the problem of overpopulation.
What we consider bad and unhealthy, relieves the problem overpopulation
Dr Barlett calls this the greatest dilemma facing mankind.
“The greatest dilemma lies in the choices that are available”
I have no idea what that sentence means in the context of averting a climate catastrophe. There is only one choice that I see us having. That is whether we are going to pull back from the brink or not. That’s all. That’s the choice. There is no other choice because there is no other choice that ranks in consequence with the climate crisis. We are talking about nearly doubling the carbon dioxide levels planet wide within the span of 150 years. To think this won’t produce an unstable and very lengthy period of turbulent and unfavorable weather is simply unrealistic.
Though it’s likely we’ll fail in turning back the climate juggernaut now in motion, we at the least will be seen by our progeny as caring enough to try.
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W4U said: The greatest dilemma lies in the choices that are available”
I have no idea what that sentence means in the context of averting a climate catastrophe.
Yes, that lacked clarity. I posted that in relation to overpopulation being the main cause for man-made climate change. As long as human species are on the increase, the man-made pollution problem will increase.
The list shows the terrible truths. What we consider to be good, increases the problem.
What we consider to be bad decreases the problem.
Thoreau’s world is no longer attainable.
What were Thoreau’s reasons for moving to the woods?
To live a simple life, to avoid the complications of every day life, to live deliberately, and to be in nature** .May 2, 2021
Those days are gone. We are in the middle of the 6th (Anthropocene) extinction event.
This is primarily due to overpopulation. The greatest dilemma mankind will ever face. (Bartlett)
Anthropocene
The Anthropocene is a proposed geological epoch dating from the commencement of significant human impact on Earth’s geology and ecosystems, including, but not limited to, anthropogenic climate change.
The problem is that even if we don’t do anything, Nature itself will eventually take care of the problem. The natural “cleansing” (pandemic) is already taking place.
Yes W4U, you’re right about overpopulation. This world was never meant to carry 7, 8, or 9 thousand million humans, but this imbalance will be short-lived. The 21st century will prove to be the century of plagues. An optimal number of human beings shouldn’t exceed one billion planet wide but it’s too late for that. Nature will impose her own limits.
It’s not a simple switch of On or Off.
Even if everyone agreed the SHHTF, there will be different ideas and agendas as to how to deal with it - aka this thread - Should we ONLY try to fix it? Should we ALSO prepare for the consequences?
WHAT is the correct fix?
It is not a simple answer.
