whom I didn’t ask any questions, on renewables -- MPCWhen you ask questions in a group forum, anyone in the group can respond. That's how internet forums work. You made unsubstantiated claims, then demanded substantiation for my responses. This is boring.
Hmmmm let me see. Nuclear power vs do nothing???? Thinking thinking thinkingIt takes from 7 to 10 years to build one nuclear plant and you speak of time to act?
No, the time for thinking is over … Plant Hemp!!!… You can start tomorrow.
In addition to Hemp based agriculture, the only viable electricity generation is from naturally occurring dynamic resources.
Solar power, Wind Power, Hydro power, Tidal power are all inexhaustible sources of clean non-polluting power.
Why are we even thinking of any pollution causing method of artificial power generation like nuclear, oil, coal, wood. It is ridiculous to even consider those expensive, inefficient, dirty methods for power generation. We never seem to learn anything from experience and blindly follow the stupid philosophy of “strength through exhaustion”, a self-defeating parasitic practice .
Use Natures dynamics to generate energy. Nature never built a single power plant and yet it has provided trillions and trillions of MWH , just for the tapping.
Solar power: 982,957,706,825 Solar energy striking Earth today (MWh) !!!
Wind power: Global total wind power potential could account for as much as 123 petawatt-hours (PWh) of electricity annually [corresponding to annually averaged power production of 14 terawatts (TW)] equal to 7 times the total current global consumption of electricity.
Hydro power: Hydropower accounts for 52 percent of the nation’s renewable electricity generation and 7 percent of total electricity generation.
Tidal power: The total energy contained in tides worldwide is 3,000 gigawatts (GW; billion watts)!!!
None of these resources produce any harmful residues and if used wisely could have minimum impact on the environment.
W4u, on a fundamental level I agree with your suggestions. It’s just the ‘window of opportunity’ thing that tosses my realistic hope down the potty.
Write4u
Cc has completely given up. With all the lectures about how bad things are and how we know that it is all true you might as well be having the conversation with the most far right anti science flat earth climate change is a hoax screamer
W4u, on a fundamental level I agree with your suggestions. It’s just the ‘window of opportunity’ thing that tosses my realistic hope down the potty.I know, any solution that requires the construction of global technological networks is problematic. But that's where Hemp is such a marvelous start. It can be implemented immediately.
The beneficial ecological properties of Hemp make it a prime candidate for ecofriendly agriculture. 1 acre of Hemp sequesters as much CO2 as 20 acres of trees. This is due to the enormous growth rate of Hemp and the CO2 required to sustain that growth. Hemp has a +3 month planting and harvesting cycle, and due to its restorative soil properties makes it an ideal supplementary crop for other crops.
There are millions of acres suitable for Hemp planting, employing little labor to maintain but require abundant labor for harvesting and processing Hemp products.
There are established worldwide markets for the industrial Hemp products.
All by all, changing over to a Hemp based agriculture requires very little technological adjustments. It is just another cash crop. It is the incredible variety of industrial uses that will generate a whole new Hemp based manufacturing sector, providing tens of thousands of relatively easy manufacturing jobs.
Today, in Canada they are sowing Hemp!
Hemp Industry Development
In September 2018, the federal government announced an investment of $330,550 CAD (approximately $250,000 USD) for the Canadian Hemp Trade Alliance (CHTA) to develop industry-wide grading standards so that Canadian hemp products could be recognized globally for their quality and consistency. The CHTA is a national organization representing industrial hemp growers and promotinghemp and hemp products globally. Established in 2003, the Alliance represents those involved in Canada’s hemp industry, including farmers, processors, food manufacturers and researchers.
CHTA’s website includes information on growing hemp, as well as on various hemp-based products: - Food, such as hemp seed, hemp oil and hemp protein in the form of flour or powders - Clothing - Cosmetics - Industrial productshttps://apps.fas.usda.gov/newgainapi/api/report/downloadreportbyfilename?filename=Industrial%20Hemp%20Production%20Trade%20and%20Regulation_Ottawa_Canada_8-26-2019.pdf
What is preventing the US from becoming a leading manufacturer of industrial Hemp goods?. Could it be resistance from the oil-based industries?
Cc has completely given up.Why are you so one dimensional? How have I given up? I'm engaged with my community and my family, I continue to grapple with the fundamental questions people have been asking themselves for ever. I even struggle to explain myself.
My assessment of the State of Earth’s biosphere and its global heat and moisture distribution machine is based on lots and lots of real world evidence and knowledge. I’d love to be wrong.
You could learn a lot about Earth’s future from understanding her past changes and their consequences.
You scream SOLUTION, SOLUTION, SOLUTION.
Then offer a two word answer Nuclear Energy. But, we’re discussing real life in 2021, not a Hollywood movie that’s beamed us back to the '80. Where are the resources coming from, where is the time coming from? What about extreme weather and droughts and the increasing destruction they are inflicting?
With all the lectures about how bad things are and how we know that it is all true you might as well be having the conversation with the most far right anti science flat earth climate change is a hoax screamerNo Tex, enough with the hysteria, you are gushing malicious stupid slander intent on distracting. You can say such things because you keep yourself profoundly ignorant when it comes to what's being observed on this planet and what scientists know it means for our future.
26 July 2021 State of the climate: 2021 sees widespread climate extremes despite a cool startwww_ncdc_noaa_gov/sotc/
www_carbonbrief_org/state-of-the-climate-2021-sees-widespread-climate-extremes-despite-a-cool-start
Turning me and others into the enemies doesn’t do anything to change the facts on the ground.
IMO, a Capitalist economy does not allow large industrial investments in new industries as long as the worst polluters are exempt from EPA regulation and penalties that would make continued offenses no longer profitable.
The point is that continued polluting practices should not be tolerated.
If there is an existential crisis, then treat any offender as an existential threat!
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Because when asked to make a contribution about what we need to do, what we should do to make the world a place as liveable as can be given the threat for our children
YOU THROW YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR AND SAY IM AFRAID ITS ALL TOO LATE.
You don’t offer anything in this space. You complain a nuclear yet offer no alternative.
yet offer no alternative.OMG, will you ever stop saying this? This is an obsession.
Climate change action should be everyone’s obsession
Climate change action should be everyone’s obsessionGood timing. I was just dialing this up:
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And what claims are they @lausten? Nobody has substantiated any claim about nuclear risk. Nobody. The boredom you project is inevitable.
And @write4u, the full solar cycle is virtuous is it? Why are Germany’s emissions up by a quarter again?
Nobody has substantiated any claim about nuclear risk.Come on Martin, take off the blinders and do a little homework.
Nobody, not even you, has substantiated any claim about nuclear powers ability to save our energy habits either!
You haven’t even tried to educate us.
Science by Rhetoric is bull poopie.
And what claims are they @lausten? Nobody has substantiated any claim about nuclear risk. -- MPCGoogling and cutting and pasting would be the boring thing I'm talking about. That kind of hyperbole is not dialog.
Martin writes: Nobody has substantiated any claim about nuclear risk. Nobody.
Come on, be serious, have you ever tried looking?
NUCLEAR POWER AND CLIMATE: WHY NUKES CAN’T SAVE THE PLANET
TOO MANY REACTORS; NOT ENOUGH CARBON REDUCTIONS
TOO MUCH MONEY
TOO MUCH TIME
TOO MUCH WASTE
TOO LITTLE SAFETY
TOO MUCH PLUTONIUM
NUKES EMIT CARBON TOO!
NOT SUITED FOR WARMING CLIMATES
CAN”T TAKE US TO THE MALL
google: Nuclear Information and Resource Service
Thorium Fuel – No Panacea for Nuclear Power
Thorium “fuel” has been proposed as an alternative to uranium fuel in nuclear reactors. There are not “thorium reactors,” but rather proposals to use thorium as a “fuel” in different types of reactors, including existing light-water reactors and various fast breeder reactor designs.
Thorium, which refers to thorium-232, is a radioactive metal that is about three times more abundant than uranium in the natural environment. Large known deposits are in Australia, India, and Norway. Some of the largest reserves are found in Idaho in the U.S. The primary U.S. company advocating for thorium fuel is “Thorium Power”. [[1]](https: // ieer_org/resource/energy-issues/thorium-fuel-panacea-nuclear-power/#note-755-1) Contrary to the claims made or implied by thorium proponents, however, thorium doesn’t solve the proliferation, waste, safety, or cost problems of nuclear power, and it still faces major technical hurdles for commercialization.
[Download the fact sheet]
Conclusions
There is little doubt that nuclear energy will remain an important part of the global energy mix, but it is not the panacea that many advocates are selling. To begin with, a nuclear renaissance will take too long to have more than a negligible impact on carbon dioxide emissions that threaten significant climate change in the next decade. Further, the petroleum-dominated transportation sector, which accounts for 25 percent of world carbon dioxide emissions, offers few footholds now for nuclear energy substitution. (By contrast, oil only accounted for 5 percent of the global electricity mix in 2001.) In the distant future, perhaps nuclear energy may help offset transportation emissions through the production of hydrogen. …
https:// www_armscontrol.org/act/2007-05/features/risks-realities-“new-nuclear-energy-revival”
Nuclear power no panacea for poor nations - IAEA
By Louis Charbonneau
https:// www_reuters_com/article/idINIndia-36177520081027… While nuclear power plants can bring many benefits, they are expensive to build, and require strict adherence to safety and security requirements, ElBaradei said.
“There’s a lot of over-expectation,” he said. “We think everybody has the right to use it but there are certain parameters you have to fulfill.” …
Neither can twiddling your thumbs
Oh that’s precious coming from you Tex.
You don’t even work at having an adult conversation.
PS. if wishing were horses then beggars would ride.
Twiddling thumbs pretty much sums up your contribution here
Come on Tex, can you ever be honest? That’s your own insular twisted tunnel vision perception at work.
Back to AGW, (I’ve come to wonder if you even know what that means?) Have you ever heard of the concept of a window of opportunity?
An Essay Concerning our Weather
Mike Keefe drew a cartoon in the Denver Post that perfectly portrays a prevailing attitude toward our rogue weather. The cartoonist shows a man pointing at a calendar and yelling at the thunder clouds (or God?): “What? You having trouble with the small print? The calendar says it’s spring, dammit!” It makes me wonder who’s really having trouble with the small print.
When was the last time any of us has truly reflected on what drives our weather? Our atmosphere is the product of more than four billion years of ongoing evolution - geologic as well as biologic. It’s a tenuous veil of gases that lays upon the surface of our planet, like the finest silk upon your skin. This veil has a most interesting structure, which I want to describe.
Our atmosphere is composed almost totally of nitrogen and oxygen. Interwoven into this medium is a gossamerthin admixture of everything else: thousands of different compounds which can be grouped into almost 200 distinct families. Combined, these compounds make up less than one percent of our atmosphere’s volume. Most of this volume is made up of inert compounds and noble gases, so called because they don’t react with their surroundings very much, if at all. Within this matrix of nonreactive molecules is another, yet thinner community of reactive compounds. By volume, these reactive elements consist of around 0.036 percent or 360 parts per million parts of the sky.
This is where the action is. These chemicals are always reacting with each other: they combine, split up, mutate, affect neighboring molecules, change characteristics - and they do this at nonstop hypervelocities. This is the scaffolding over which energy, moisture, and heat perform their weather ballet.
Back to the small print in our current weather story. What’s new is that, over the past 100-plus years, humanity has been injecting a third category of ingredients: humanmade and human-generated. By volume, this new genre consists mainly of substances already present in the atmosphere, only now they’re being unleashed in unfathomable quantities; they belong to the reactive families.
Then there are the exotic varietals. Creations of science and industry, they make up a small but usually highly reactive percentage. Most of these compounds are totally new to the atmosphere. All told, society has been injecting millions upon millions upon millions of tons of these gases and particulates into our atmosphere at an ever-increasing rate, so much so that the very composition of our atmosphere - the weave of our atmospheric veil - has been significantly altered.
This is of interest because our atmosphere is in actuality a heat engine. Its matrix of gaseous and particulate components are the valves and pistons. This engine is driven by the sun’s energetic rays. The result is our weather: the global distribution of energy, heat, and moisture. The small print is that each compound we’ve introduced interacts with the sun’s energy according to its own unique thermo-hygroscopic-chemical profile. It seems that recent weather fluctuations are nothing more than a physical reflection of how we treat our biosphere.
Remember all those silly environmentalists whining about pollution, global warming, and all that? It isn’t all delusions! Scientists have been discovering and recording these changes since the end of World War II. For the past 30 years, satellites have been visually recording the stains, rips, and acid burns that we are inflicting upon the veil of our atmosphere. The increasingly sophisticated information they gather continues to have ominous implications for the future as well as the present.
Why be surprised when weather continues to become more chaotic? Admittedly, no one can accurately predict how weather will change. But who can deny that it will continue to change, and at an accelerated rate? Maybe we’re the ones who should be reading the small print: humanity’s usage of this Earth, Gaia, is like any other economic agreement. Sooner or later you have to pay the piper; sooner or later you pay the consequences. We can kid ourselves, but we can’t fool Mother Nature.
Peter Miesler is a freelance writer from Denver, Colorado. This cartoon originally appeared in the May 26, 1995, Denver Post and is reprinted with permission. This article appears in the Nov/Dec 1995 Humanist magazine
