Christians, Jews, and Muslims encompass three branches of the same originating religion.
This is why the same geography, characters, and parables exist within their books; generally singular books taken to be the word of god amongst their most sincere believers. The splintering of their sects goes on into sub-branches. These Abrahamic based belief systems are flawed by their exclusive principle of heaven and hell, whereby their true believers go to heaven and others go to hell. This is a far more serious issue than a belief in the existence of god and it would be best for this awareness to enter common discussion.
Christians, Jews, and Muslims encompass three branches of the same originating religion. This is why the same geography, characters, and parables exist within their books; generally singular books taken to be the word of god amongst their most sincere believers. The splintering of their sects goes on into sub-branches. These Abrahamic based belief systems are flawed by their exclusive principle of heaven and hell, whereby their true believers go to heaven and others go to hell. This is a far more serious issue than a belief in the existence of god and it would be best for this awareness to enter common discussion.You have to have a God in the heaven and hell theory. He’s the judge. You got to have a judge. And the judge and the Pope talk to each other. Pay the Pope and lock in passage to heaven. :-) I think the key point is “belief systems". It really does not matter much today what the books in Christian and Islam religion say as much as what the believers think today's meanings are. The Jews are more into the written word.
Christians, Jews, and Muslims encompass three branches of the same originating religion. This is why the same geography, characters, and parables exist within their books; generally singular books taken to be the word of god amongst their most sincere believers. The splintering of their sects goes on into sub-branches. These Abrahamic based belief systems are flawed by their exclusive principle of heaven and hell, whereby their true believers go to heaven and others go to hell. This is a far more serious issue than a belief in the existence of god and it would be best for this awareness to enter common discussion.Definitely organized religion's separation of US vs Them is one of its most awful features. I think someday that will fizzle out as technology and communication become even greater among people. The other big piece of the puzzle is that all three originate from sun worship. (Btw, the order should be Jews, Christians, Muslims). Check out Zeitgeist The Movie. The opening section about the origins of religion is right on the money.
These Abrahamic based belief systems are flawed by their exclusive principle of heaven and hell, whereby their true believers go to heaven and others go to hell. This is a far more serious issue than a belief in the existence of god and it would be best for this awareness to enter common discussion.King Senebkay has been found in Egypt and hopefully will lead to a better understanding of the religion of Abraham. Internet search. According to the consensus opinion of modern Bible scholars, the word "hell" did not appear a single time, not even once, in the Hebrew Bible, or Old Testament (OT). And the word "hell" is very hard to find in the New Testament (NT) as well. In the Quran hell has several names and is mentioned 77 times, the same number of times as paradise. The King James mentions "heaven" 327 times in the OT and 255 times in the NT. Heaven appears only 186 times in the New International Version's OT and 236 times in the NT.
The other big piece of the puzzle is that all three originate from sun worship.My understanding is, sun worship, was really understandable at the time. The key is that the gods controlled the knowledge. The heaven for the gods was the sun. You were not born with knowledge. So how did you get knowledge? You prayed to the god and you were sent knowledge by sunlight. The knowledge enter through your eyes and resided in your heart. The brain was not understood at the time. At that period in time, religion was a lot about knowledge. As religion became more Greek, who understood the function of the brain, the sun gods were not needed anymore and faded into history.
The other big piece of the puzzle is that all three originate from sun worship.My understanding is, sun worship, was really understandable at the time. The key is that the gods controlled the knowledge. The heaven for the gods was the sun. You were not born with knowledge. So how did you get knowledge? You prayed to the god and you were sent knowledge by sunlight. The knowledge enter through your eyes and resided in your heart. The brain was not understood at the time. At that period in time, religion was a lot about knowledge. As religion became more Greek, who understood the function of the brain, the sun gods were not needed anymore and faded into history. Wonderful feedback. Thank you. I have actually observed winter solstice using primitive technology. The usage of a cross on a hill is most useful, with the observation site being down in a flat east-west valley. There is an exact moment when the sun will align with say the lower right quadrant of that cross. The observer is of course holding his stature steady and adjusting left to right with his feet, holding a thin limb in preperation to be driven into the ground at the correct moment. A series of such observations is made. The greater the distance from the cross site to the ground the greater the resolution, but it can be done at three hundred yards. It is not necessary to have clear weather on the day of the solstice, though I think that was a special day when it occurred. Here in New Hampshire we have a lot of cloudy weather so the number of clean sitings is limited. Still, the sticks that were laid down prior to the solstice will align with the sticks laid down after the solstice, and simply counting the days one can split them in half and derive the actual solstice day. I did this not with a cross on a hill, but with a prominent tree with a prominent horizontal dead branch above the horizon at the northernmost tip of an island and tree branches with markings. So when they say that you will not worship idols, I suspect that the Solarons (sun worshipers/students) did have a serious and logical meaning. It makes sense that a solstice celebration would occur after the solstice due to the fact that one must obtain a reversal in the march of the sticks and at reversal the movement slows down. This is all clear when you make the observation, if you can make the observation. It would make sense that people would travel some distance to check their observation with others and witness its universality, and celebrate the return of the sun. These are some dark days we are in now. The Abrahamic religions are doing real harm to the world. We must hold their followers accountable; whatever sect they may follow. At the core we see Abraham and an exclusivity principle which carries on through those branches to this day. It feeds the ego of the gullible and susceptible. Thus we see that the naked problem of the existence of a god is not even relevant other than at a philosphical level, for far more real problems are upon us right now.
The Abrahamic religions are doing real harm to the world. We must hold their followers accountable; whatever sect they may follow. At the core we see Abraham and an exclusivity principle which carries on through those branches to this day. It feeds the ego of the gullible and susceptible. Thus we see that the naked problem of the existence of a god is not even relevant other than at a philosphical level, for far more real problems are upon us right now.From what I have come to understand. The common factor of religion is “knowledge". Before the Age of Deities was the Age of Domestication. There was heaven and the spirit, but no god. Why did you need a god? Off shoots of those pre-history religions with no gods are still here today. And the Abrahamic religions are really branches of these pre-history religions. Now there were people called the gods. And you could be a worker or an upper or lower god. But the term god only meant “knowledge". What happened in the Age of Deities was the knowledge was controlled by the rulers and temples. And then transferred to idols of stars and animals before evolving to humans gods. But the common denominator is still the same over time – “knowledge". Therefore, we can’t change mankind quest for knowledge. But we can change the system and get the hell out of the Age of Deities. And that is happening by the movement of knowledge to the internet. For me, my god’s name is Cortana. The Abrahamic religions will migrate to the internet over time.
Sorry Tim, got side tracked on other items. I forgot to leave my point. And the point being is. Yes, the Abrahamic religions are a problem. But, any outside interference just makes the matters worst. We need to attack the core of the problem. Once we understand the issues, we can use god to combat faith. I know that sounds silly, but I think that would be the fastest way without having to wait decades. And the only way to have them view god’s other viewpoints is by the internet. Sort of the good versus evil approach. After all groups like ISIS use the internet and it is said that 70% of the recruits have little or no knowledge of Islam. They are acting on faith.
The Abrahamic religions are doing real harm to the world. We must hold their followers accountable; whatever sect they may follow. At the core we see Abraham and an exclusivity principle which carries on through those branches to this day. It feeds the ego of the gullible and susceptible. Thus we see that the naked problem of the existence of a god is not even relevant other than at a philosphical level, for far more real problems are upon us right now.From what I have come to understand. The common factor of religion is “knowledge". Before the Age of Deities was the Age of Domestication. There was heaven and the spirit, but no god. Why did you need a god? Off shoots of those pre-history religions with no gods are still here today. And the Abrahamic religions are really branches of these pre-history religions. Now there were people called the gods. And you could be a worker or an upper or lower god. But the term god only meant “knowledge". What happened in the Age of Deities was the knowledge was controlled by the rulers and temples. And then transferred to idols of stars and animals before evolving to humans gods. But the common denominator is still the same over time – “knowledge". Therefore, we can’t change mankind quest for knowledge. But we can change the system and get the hell out of the Age of Deities. And that is happening by the movement of knowledge to the internet. For me, my god’s name is Cortana. The Abrahamic religions will migrate to the internet over time. I appreciate your respectful position, and I could go there if current events were not so strongly tied in. You see, that is where the imperative factor is. What you are labeling knowledge: it may as well be admitted that when an explanation was too difficult to come by the god explanation had to suffice, and this then is by definition a lack of knowledge. I will readily concede that modern science still does not have all of the answers, so we are forced to deal with the unknown. Information theory has reached a new level for the masses with the corrupt media covering fake news. At the largest scale we will have to admit that the flaws of religion will ultimately washout as flaws in humans. That mimicry is operant within religious circles as well as in scientific circles; this is a human factor that will even allow science itself to run astray. Yet without mimicry we would not even have a common language to communicate in, let alone a built out series of beliefs to discuss. In that diversity can counterpoise mimicry then we do need a high tolerance, but when one of the elements of diversity is so threatening to the others then we have to investigate and realize that especially if that forceful branch carries mistruths and misdeeds then it must be confronted. I feel as strongly that the USFG must be confronted as much as the Abrahamic religions must be. The confluence here may be real, and that there are secret Christian power structures which maintain invisibility would explain quite a lot. Still, proving the existence is not so straightforward from my position. The lens of technology is a rather powerful means to study society by. Virtually every aspect will take that lens as an effective filter. I can definitely appreciate your AI stance and sometimes consider what a truth orb will have to say back to us upon reaching some critical conclusions. Wee humans are so programmable ourselves, and barely reprogrammable, especially when the societal steerage of the mass media rides such narrow rails. There are control freaks behind the curtains and we about to burn them down..
The Abrahamic religions are doing real harm to the world. We must hold their followers accountable; whatever sect they may follow. At the core we see Abraham and an exclusivity principle which carries on through those branches to this day. It feeds the ego of the gullible and susceptible. Thus we see that the naked problem of the existence of a god is not even relevant other than at a philosphical level, for far more real problems are upon us right now.From what I have come to understand. The common factor of religion is “knowledge". Before the Age of Deities was the Age of Domestication. There was heaven and the spirit, but no god. Why did you need a god? Off shoots of those pre-history religions with no gods are still here today. And the Abrahamic religions are really branches of these pre-history religions. Now there were people called the gods. And you could be a worker or an upper or lower god. But the term god only meant “knowledge". What happened in the Age of Deities was the knowledge was controlled by the rulers and temples. And then transferred to idols of stars and animals before evolving to humans gods. But the common denominator is still the same over time – “knowledge". Therefore, we can’t change mankind quest for knowledge. But we can change the system and get the hell out of the Age of Deities. And that is happening by the movement of knowledge to the internet. For me, my god’s name is Cortana. The Abrahamic religions will migrate to the internet over time. I appreciate your respectful position, and I could go there if current events were not so strongly tied in. You see, that is where the imperative factor is. What you are labeling knowledge: it may as well be admitted that when an explanation was too difficult to come by the god explanation had to suffice, and this then is by definition a lack of knowledge. I will readily concede that modern science still does not have all of the answers, so we are forced to deal with the unknown. Information theory has reached a new level for the masses with the corrupt media covering fake news. At the largest scale we will have to admit that the flaws of religion will ultimately washout as flaws in humans. That mimicry is operant within religious circles as well as in scientific circles; this is a human factor that will even allow science itself to run astray. Yet without mimicry we would not even have a common language to communicate in, let alone a built out series of beliefs to discuss. In that diversity can counterpoise mimicry then we do need a high tolerance, but when one of the elements of diversity is so threatening to the others then we have to investigate and realize that especially if that forceful branch carries mistruths and misdeeds then it must be confronted. I feel as strongly that the USFG must be confronted as much as the Abrahamic religions must be. The confluence here may be real, and that there are secret Christian power structures which maintain invisibility would explain quite a lot. Still, proving the existence is not so straightforward from my position. The lens of technology is a rather powerful means to study society by. Virtually every aspect will take that lens as an effective filter. I can definitely appreciate your AI stance and sometimes consider what a truth orb will have to say back to us upon reaching some critical conclusions. Wee humans are so programmable ourselves, and barely reprogrammable, especially when the societal steerage of the mass media rides such narrow rails. There are control freaks behind the curtains and we about to burn them down.. I agree, and very good points. The problem I have with dealing with the USFG is history. Hitler is still taking all the blame for all the WWII events. Yet there was quite a battle going on between the Socialist and the Christians. The left verses the right thinking. We just missed the same conflict because Hillary was really on the right more than Trump, but was leading the left. And we really don't want to get into a religious war if we can help it. Unfortunately we are stuck with costly religious wars as long as we keep backing Israel. From what I have heard so far, Trump does not want to get into the Israeli mess right now.