“Order out of Chaos”
and
“Chaos Theory”
…are two different things
Just saying
Sorry to burst your bubble ma’am but you have wasted your time, Catholicism is not Christianity, regardless of how you may feel about it ?
https://www.soulwinning.info/fr/lutheran/deception.htm
Here’s a snippet, make sure to read the whole thing they address a whole lot more than just worshipping Mary:
Martin Luther (1483-1546) was a religious fraud, a heretic heretic concerning the faith. Tragically, this man who has been dead for 467 years is still deceiving churchgoers with his damnable heresies, leading them away from the truth.
Luther is widely recognized as the father of The Reformation, which received significant notoriety in 1522 when Mr. Luther nailed his 95 Thesis(challenging the sale of indulgences) to the Roman Catholic church in Germany. The Reformation was a religious movement of the 16th century that began as an attempt to reform the Roman Catholic Church and resulted in the creation of Protestant churches.
Martin Luther may have come out of Catholicism, but Catholicism did NOT come out of Martin Luther. The Lutheran religion is nothing more than a spin-off of Roman Catholicism, as you will see from Luther’s own heretical statements. I am NOT trying to be judgmental or unkind, I am simply EXPOSING the damnable heresies of Martin Luther. As such I must also expose the Lutheran religion (a fake church) because they idolize and follow Mr. Luther. Tragically, there are hundreds-of-millions of people being led into Hell by the Lutheran religion. There is no debating that the “Lutheran” church is grounded in Martin Luther’s errant beliefs.
Remember, religion wants to fit us with glasses but the Lord wants to open our eyes.
Mary Worship
Though not to the idolatrous extent that the Catholics idolize Mary, the Lutherans follow in the same adulterous steps of Roman Catholicism. The photo to the right is one depiction of the Lutheran Mary. Though the halo around Mary’s head is missing, it is still disconcerting (and unbiblical) for anyone to recognize her at all. Mary is no more to be praised than any other godly mother. In a poem titled “Swept Up In Joy” by David Miller, a Lutheran Minister, he says the following:
I tried to pray through my distress as the choir sang of Mary: “Hail favored one, the Lord is with thee.” But my thoughts connected only with my anxiety.
“Hail favored one?” Excuse me, but where in the Bible are we ever commanded to recognize Mary at all? Jesus never even hinted for anyone to praise Mary. This is a MANMADE TRADITION, and it came out of the religious whore of Catholicism.
WOW right? ?
Chaotic systems allow for the spontaneous formation of patterns. The function is called “self organization”.
Self-organization, also called (in the social sciences) spontaneous order, is a process where some form of overall order arises from local interactions between parts of an initially disordered system. The process can be spontaneous when sufficient energy is available, not needing control by any external agent. It is often triggered by random fluctuations, amplified by positive feedback. The resulting organization is wholly decentralized, distributed over all the components of the system. As such, the organization is typically robust and able to survive or self-repair substantial perturbation. Chaos theory discusses self-organization in terms of islands of predictability in a sea of chaotic unpredictability.Self-organization occurs in many physical, chemical, biological, robotic, and cognitive systems. Examples of self-organization include crystallization, thermal convection of fluids, chemical oscillation, animal swarming, neural circuits, and artificial neural networks.
<p style=“padding-left: 40px;”>Self “organization” and spontaneous “order” are neither “self” nor “spontaneous” creation which are actually the non existing legs your super solid theory stands on, stop plagiarizing to justify totally void theories</p>
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https://www.soulwinning.info/Wow is right... I recognize that very well. That was written by Jack Hyles. That site is affiliated with him.
Apparently, you don’t know who Jack Hyles was.
He was, literally, a psychopath. He and his son beat and molested hundreds.
In fact, a personal friend of mine knew the family and was among the victims.
Wow. Wow.
Hyles’ daughter apologizes for ‘nefarious actions’ of church
Hundreds of sex abuse allegations found in fundamental Baptist churches across U.S.
https://www.star-telegram.com/living/religion/article222576310.html
Sexual Abuse And The Jack Hyles Rule: If You Didn’t See It, It Didn’t Happen
Testimonies From Former Jack Hyles Followers
http://jbeard.users.rapidnet.com/bdm/exposes/hyles/testim.htm
Let Us Prey: Big Trouble at First Baptist Church
By the way, @420SOS, if you believe Jack on that, then you better believe all this too.
Seriously, ALL the other Christians think HE’S a heretic:
I think you said before that the priests who abuse kids can’t be real Christians, so Hyles isn’t a real Christian either… guess you are outta luck! Enjoy hell ?
420SOS said,Self “organization” and spontaneous “order” are neither “self” nor “spontaneous” creation which are actually the non existing legs your super solid theory stands on, stop plagiarizing to justify totally void theories.
Well you need only look up in the sky and see the self-organized patterns of galaxies, solar systems, and on earth the emergence of intelligent life.
Put a bunch of Hydrogen and Oxygen atoms together and they will self-organize into a fluid pattern named “water”.
Tell me what is void about this;
and this:
You are using it to explain creation when it’s actually reorganization, VOID
The only thing we know is that the potential for the BB existed prior to the actual event. We have no evidence or knowledge of any reorganization of pre-existing orders.
The result of the BB was chaos.
Therefore any order that may have existed prior to the BB was destroyed by the BB.
No re-organization, just chemical self-organization from the very subtle to gross expression in reality in accordance to relative mathematical values and functions. Via the Evolutionary and Natural Selective processes.
Yes T, you are right he is rightfully considered a heretic but that doesn’t mean he didn’t expose truths either, would you consider a nicer atheist’s word? But then again they are technically heretic right?
Yes wiener was biased but again, and that book pushes it but it also exposes Luther’s character which didn’t correspond with scripture and doesn’t to this day.
Hey, I said I’m a sinner, and by no means I’m righteous al,let alone holy, i might go to hell but you definitely have a reservation with your name on it, I’m not happy nor laughing about it, I really don’t want it to happen to anybody but many of us will probably end up there because of deaf ears and blind eyes
Write, who created the alleged order there’s no proof of and that BB destroyed?
VOID
Write, who created the alleged order there’s no proof of and that BB destroyed?VOID
How do you reorganize a VOID?
429SOS said,You are using it to explain creation when it’s actually reorganization, VOID
You put something in it?
How neat
Lausten we’ve heard you guys say the and same thing overover and over again too, it’s a doctrine all over the world, and that Christian imposition in schools doesn’t happen everywhere nor nearly as much. So you probably oppose transgenders reading stories to preschoolers or teaching sexual diversity to children too right?, and yes, whoever doesn’t turn to Christianity and repent from their sins, according to the Bible will perish, I’m not glad about that in the last bit but there is definitely a hell and unfortunately many will end up there, says the Bible, don’t shoot the messengerNo I don't oppose transgenders reading to preschoolers. I do know lots of Christians who oppose transgenders however, which is one of the reasons I pay attention to Christians. Not your special version of Christianity however. We're all so lucky to have met you, with your pot smoking not-Catholic not-Protestant but still burn in hell version of Christianity. I'm sure you have discovered the "right" version. And it only took 2,000 years!
You oppose imposition of Christianity but you don’t oppose the imposition of transgenders reading to little children in school? Pffff hajajajajajahahahhahajajajajajajjajhahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahajah
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Oh, now I see why you asked that. I oppose the IMPOSITION of Christianity and I would oppose it if transgenders went into a school and taught kids that they should become transgenders and if they didn’t they would burn in hell. Do you see the difference?
I don’t oppose Christians reading stories to children. However, if they said that a little train engine had really existed and had real thoughts about what it could do, yes, I would oppose that too. Do you see the difference?
What if if I refuse my child to be exposed to them? In any way? I have to put up with in the name of tolerance and acceptance? please
? Your logic keeps getting better and better.
"would you consider a nicer atheist’s word?"A) You're right -- Peter Wiener was an atheist. He hated Luther for the exact same reason I do.
Luther was a shitty person. And a Protestantism AND Nazism exist because of him. That was my point.
So…You are using someone who agrees with my point to make your point… er, my point … huh?
B) Tentmaker Ministries is a Christian Universalist group. They don’t believe anyone goes to hell.
In fact, one of the books available on that website, “Christ Triumphant,” I own … I ordered it from that very website, back when I was a Christian, probably 12 years or so. The point of that book is that Christ’s death on the cross saves ALL people, even atheists who don’t accept Jesus as their savior.
So … you are using a book by an atheist, on a Universalist website … to warn me that I am going to hell.
Even through a smoky blue haze you should be able to see how ridiculous this is!!! ?
Not surprised that you are having difficulty with an idea like tolerance. We are growing out of our tribal past, but still have many remnants of it affecting our culture. I doubt you’ll be able to explain yourself, but just saying something like “in the name of” tolerance shows you don’t understand it. Why is acceptance bad?
The question of children is a complicated one. We accept that a parent has a lot of rights when raising their children. There are limits to that though. You can’t teach them to kill people for instance, and you have to feed them properly. So, I can only recommend that you expose your children to much reality as you are comfortable with, introducing it as they can handle it.
As far as “imposing” transgenderism…
Sigh.
This will be lost on @420SOS, but just in case someone else is reading…
Imposing a religion is a thing. The reason why the law forbids teachers from leading prayers of any religion in public school is because the point of religion is conversion.
Laws requiring trans kids to be able to use the bathroom of their gender identity, and efforts to teach kids what transgender IS, are NOT efforts at conversion. OMG, OMG, no.
Being LGBT is not something you “choose.” The people who wrote scriptures 2,000-5,000 didn’t know this. We know it now.
Allowing trans kids to BE the gender they actually ARE “imposes” nothing on kids.
Hey, Phil. Re kids and bathrooms and transgender, would you take literally less than 2 minutes to look at something very short I wrote to explain this issue?
Teresa Bryan Peneguy’s answer to:
“Let’s say you are the mother or father of a child. Let’s say the child is a girl. Are you okay with a transgender woman walking into the bathroom with your child?”
(You seem to have a problem identifying genders; you told me to be a real man.)