But, but, there could be a god, right?

Ross Douthat asks Sam Harris why the idea of a god is not a conclusion that could be drawn from the evidence of the universe existing and all that we experience? He asks it in a reasonable manner.

https://youtu.be/bjoe-DPhMWU?t=1068

Sam’s answer starts at 18:55

https://youtu.be/bjoe-DPhMWU?t=1131

It’s one of the most succinct yet thorough answers to that question that I’ve heard.

They had earlier discussed consciousness and Sam repeats it’s something we can be certain of, because we experience it, but that doesn’t give us any proof of anything we might think about the cosmos. His point is, just “the lights being on” is where our suffering and happiness comes from, and that forms morality and ethics.

He states the limits of what we know or can know, and maybe “the universe is stranger than we can think”, a quote from JBS Haldane. That allows for the idea that the universe could have been created by an intelligence that we can’t fathom, but it does not indicate that that sort of mind, wrote the Bible, or any other scripture.

Ross tries to find an opening but Sam notes that the human mind has improved on the scriptures we have, so this universe-creating being should have been able to do better. Ross falls back on the New Testament as an inspiring text. It gets a little silly after that.

If you haven’t had a chance, I recommend digging into Bart Ehrman’s books, especially Misquoting Jesus. Once he learned how the bible came about, he lost his religion, going from a real Moody Bible thumper to who he is today. Point being, once you learn the history of how the bible came about, you realize it’s all just one big made up book based on scraps of scraps of scraps, and any talk of Jesus and Christianity are really just fiction. Useful fiction obviously for Christians, but fiction none the less. Add to that that the ultimate source material/ideas really are just rewrites of all kinds of god/messiah ideas that were floating around in the culture of the times. See Zeitgeist the movie for example.

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