Anyone heard of Frederic Brown?

I came across a post about a short story of his called Sentence but it’s more this quote that got me thinking:

““When you look out of a window, when you look at anything, you know what you’re seeing? Yourself. A thing can only look beautiful or romantic or inspiring only if the beauty or romance or inspiration is inside you.”

Which I don’t know if I entirely agree with, and sometimes such things generate those feelings that weren’t there. Then again one could say they awaken what was sleeping, who knows…

“In all the universe only the human race has ever reached a high level of intelligence without reaching a high level of sanity. We are unique.”
― Fredric Brown, Letter to a Phoenix

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It’s more the first quote about what you see being yourself. Though to me that would then beg the question of where that came from

Hmmm, and how do you think I would respond to that?

beg the question of where that came from

Funny you should ask. I know how I’d answer that. :man_raising_hand:

Considering Things Science Can Explain About Consciousness

“Consider that momentous invention some four billion years ago of the Krebs cycle — here on Earth, when geology and chemistry learned how to harness electricity, thereby giving birth to the Krebs cycle, which in turn gave birth to biology. There you’ll find the difference between a rock and a living creature.”

“Without deeply, personally appreciating the Pageant of Evolution, trying to ask and answer these deep existential questions is like playing basketball in zero gravity.”

Dr. Mark Solms makes it clear: Modern science shows us that our mind is best understood as a reflection of your body communicating with itself.”

And yet that is not an answer to the question or the quote.

Your senses scan the scene,
your body, brain process that scene for pertinent information,
makes decisions, and engages action or not.

Weave all the window dressing you want, the answers are still in evolution, and the reality of your physical body brain. Each according to their kind.

Sure, only if you can recognize and process the pertinent data.

It’s like a hundred people plus other creatures can be looking at the same scene, yet each will be present to a specific range of impressions. The fly will see something different that person or mouse, etc.
According their respective needs, and expectations.

Each to their kind.

It’s not a mystery.

Instead of a science fiction author, why not try to absorb what a real scientist has to say about this whole emptiness thing, at the heart a body mind thing, that has you so distracted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meUtWtY00H8

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Prof. Mark Solms, a neuroscientist and psychoanalyst, discusses his groundbreaking work on consciousness, challenging conventional cortex-centric views and emphasizing the role of brainstem structures in generating consciousness and affect.

That’s not really what I think he means, I think he means we project onto reality.

Our actions can project onto reality.

Our senses take in reality, and process that reality through our specific filters and lens, (that would be, body plan, and specific situation)

I think that’s what he’s talking about there, our specific filters and lens.

We project our thoughts onto other thoughts.
We cannot project our thoughts onto physical reality.

Unless of course we do that through our physical body, or extensions thereof.
But that’s a different discussion.

Why On Earth Are You Even Aware? :wink:

Isn’t that what we are doing though?

What do you by “project”? There is the psychological definition of that or the physical definition, as in a projection of light onto a surface. We can’t do that physical projection of our thoughts.

It’s not necessarily physical so much as we project onto the world with our concepts and ideas and I think that’s what he means.

Yes. Probably right. That’s what I would call psychological projection. What I’ve never been able to get to with you is that we can recognize that. By listening to others around us, by reflecting on our lives, we understand how our thoughts are overlaying what’s ”out there”. Then we can grow from that experience.