A witch is in town

...I would like to see an age restriction put on indoctrination to religion, say 17, like a movie with adult themes, religious tomes should have an age appropriate warning label and not be sold without ID. Whatever punishments there are for introducing your children to porn should also be charged for any adult themed gore ridden, misogynistic obsessed material. I know that's extreme and not likely to happen but when you think about the horrendous stories in the bible, that shit is not PG. (sorry, got a little off topic with my rant :(...) MzLee ps... get your hands off my HP! ;-P
HP? But as to your previous point, I think I have said something similar in the past. I really hate child abuse. And I, too, consider some religious indoctrination to be such. (e.g., Believe or burn in hellfire for eternity.) Plus, I don't care for the idea of children being lied to. Of course, many religious persons don't realize that they are lying to children when they try to fill their heads and hearts with superstitious ideas. HP = Harry Potter books. :)
... By the way, in one you are mistaken when it comes to Wicca. We know that things are not real, we can only imagine that they were real, so as to achieve a particular result. An example: If I am applying for a job, and I believe not to be taken, I will not set. But if I radiate that one must necessarily take me because I'm the only right person for the job, increase my chances of getting the job. Magic, this word that we all know, comes from the word IMAGINATION, which means "to imagine something figuratively". And that makes Wicca.
Well, that's good to know. I think that imagining, as perfectly, and realistically, as possible, something that you want to be, so as to promote its actualization, is a great skill. But in the context of a religion, i.e., Wicca, the inference seems to me to be, that this is a supernatural phenomenon. It is not supernatural, it is, rather, a natural ability that some persons are able to develop.
... By the way, in one you are mistaken when it comes to Wicca. We know that things are not real, we can only imagine that they were real, so as to achieve a particular result. An example: If I am applying for a job, and I believe not to be taken, I will not set. But if I radiate that one must necessarily take me because I'm the only right person for the job, increase my chances of getting the job. Magic, this word that we all know, comes from the word IMAGINATION, which means "to imagine something figuratively". And that makes Wicca.
Well, that's good to know. I think that imagining, as perfectly, and realistically, as possible, something that you want to be, so as to promote its actualization, is a great skill. But in the context of a religion, i.e., Wicca, the inference seems to me to be, that this is a supernatural phenomenon. It is not supernatural, it is, rather, a natural ability that some persons are able to develop. Any scientific research on that?
... By the way, in one you are mistaken when it comes to Wicca. We know that things are not real, we can only imagine that they were real, so as to achieve a particular result. An example: If I am applying for a job, and I believe not to be taken, I will not set. But if I radiate that one must necessarily take me because I'm the only right person for the job, increase my chances of getting the job. Magic, this word that we all know, comes from the word IMAGINATION, which means "to imagine something figuratively". And that makes Wicca.
Well, that's good to know. I think that imagining, as perfectly, and realistically, as possible, something that you want to be, so as to promote its actualization, is a great skill. But in the context of a religion, i.e., Wicca, the inference seems to me to be, that this is a supernatural phenomenon. It is not supernatural, it is, rather, a natural ability that some persons are able to develop. Any scientific research on that? Are you asking me; or are you asking Lois? If you ask me, it's all been explained by psychology. Say you "self-fulfilling prophecy" or "autosuggestion" something? We Wicca use the same principle. It has nothing to do with the supernatural or real magic. Although, I find the idea exciting; on a broom flying through the night; to bring or with a magic wand, the men to their senses (sometimes are the real idiots in what they do).
... I think that imagining, as perfectly, and realistically, as possible, something that you want to be, so as to promote its actualization, is a great skill...
Any scientific research on that? When a primary variable involves covert events, it is not readily amenable to empirical research. But that being said one can find studies in imagery's effect on performance in studies such as this one focusing on sports performance: http://cardinalscholar.bsu.edu/bitstream/123456789/193355/1/AbdinJ_2010-3_BODY.pdf But, honestly, I was speaking more from my personal theoretical paradigm, in which I consider covert events, such as imagining, to be behavior that follows the established rules of behavior, just as overt behavior has been proven to do. So, if one accepts that stance, then one would expect that practicing covertly would have similar or supportive effects, as do practicing overtly. (It is a commonly accepted truism that "practice makes perfect".) Also, most people accept the idea that planning to do something, tends to result in a better outcome than doing something without planning. Imagining the details of how you will go about doing something, seems to me to be a form of planning. Also, there is the matter of one's confidence (or emotional states) that might have an impact on performance. It could be that mental rehearsal, done frequently enough, could increase one's confidence and decrease anxiety in the actual performance .
Also, there is the matter of one's confidence (or emotional states) that might have an impact on performance. It could be that mental rehearsal, done frequently enough, could increase one's confidence and decrease anxiety in the actual performance .
I want to tell you a little story; which happened in 2008. A woman came to me. She had heartbreak. She loved a work colleague, and felt too ugly. So I now had the task to strengthen her self-confidence. I did this with two things. First, I have asked her to take a special bath, then to dry herself only briefly, and put in front of a mirror where she should write down on two sheets of paper her positive and negative characteristics. This she saw that she looked better and felt as if she had thought of herself. After her self-confidence was strengthened, I could go to her lovesickness. Thanks to a special ritual in which she was present, she realized that she could not force anything. Now on the work she beamed beauty and self-confidence, and, not surprisingly; her work colleague fell in love with her. Until now (2014) are both married and have two children. So, psychology with a little "magick" help her to reach her goal.

It wasn’t magic. It was common knowledge psychology. Baths can be relaxing and when a person is relaxed they write a list of positive and negatives. That example doesn’t make you a witch either. However, if it’s true that “witch” means “wise one” as a Wiccan friend of mine says it means, then you maybe wise about the human condition and what might be helpful to some people, but not the “hocus pocus toil and boil” potion concocting stereotype.

IMO, superstitious (magical) thinking is a naturally occurring phenomenon in early human development. And I think that many persons, even some, otherwise, extraordinarily intelligent ones, never develop, completely, beyond the level of superstitious/magical thinking. So, it seems to me that, a healer, of any sort, might find it useful, at times to communicate with their clients on their client’s level, in this regard.

IMO, superstitious (magical) thinking is a naturally occurring phenomenon in early human development. And I think that many persons, even some, otherwise, extraordinarily intelligent ones, never develop, completely, beyond the level of superstitious/magical thinking. So, it seems to me that, a healer, of any sort, might find it useful, at times to communicate with their clients on their client's level, in this regard.
I think there is more danger in that than usefulness and I'm not sure how useful it might be, anyway. It isn't a matter of communicating on the client's level, it's telling outright lies. A little like a legitimate physician telling a patient that it's OK to use alternative medicine instead of evidence based medicine or to not vaccinate their children in the guise of "communicating on their level." Lois

Myths are strong motivators for people.
Most advertisement is based on creating myths.
So if Wicca works the way Witch describes, so what? She did put ‘Magick’ between quotes, didn’t she?
Compare it also with relaxation exercises: ‘Imagine your body is X’. They work, even if you perfectly well know that your body is not really ‘X’.

Myths are strong motivators for people. Most advertisement is based on creating myths. So if Wicca works the way Witch describes, so what? She did put 'Magick' between quotes, didn't she? Compare it also with relaxation exercises: 'Imagine your body is X'. They work, even if you perfectly well know that your body is not really 'X'.
That's right and when rational people fall into the trap of accepting or promoting myths, no matter what the rationale, we are doomed. Lois
It wasn't magic. It was common knowledge psychology. Baths can be relaxing and when a person is relaxed they write a list of positive and negatives. That example doesn't make you a witch either. However, if it's true that "witch" means "wise one" as a Wiccan friend of mine says it means, then you maybe wise about the human condition and what might be helpful to some people, but not the "hocus pocus toil and boil" potion concocting stereotype.
Of course there was no real magic! Our foremothers were also rarely used real magic. They knew how I work well with herbs and their effects on body and psyche. And they knew a lot about humans. If I would have also brew a "love potion", but I would never do, because their effects are unpredictable. I'd rather play it safe. After all, one of our "witches law" says that we must inflict no harm to anyone. And a love potion which can bring not love, but sexual madness through to rape is not safe, and prepares more harm than good.
Myths are strong motivators for people. Most advertisement is based on creating myths. So if Wicca works the way Witch describes, so what? She did put 'Magick' between quotes, didn't she? Compare it also with relaxation exercises: 'Imagine your body is X'. They work, even if you perfectly well know that your body is not really 'X'.
That's right and when rational people fall into the trap of accepting or promoting myths, no matter what the rationale, we are doomed. Lois Lois, I was able to help the woman. She had never again contacted me because of "magical tool/help". And that was also good. Because, and here there is a risk you may become dependent on them, when you do not decide for yourself; but in every decision, asked a fortune teller, an astrologer, or a witch, and loses a lot of money. By the way, rituals help us to focus on the essentials, and to focus this. If I take a bath, I tune to the ritual. It is a form/sort/kind of auto-suggestion.
Myths are strong motivators for people. Most advertisement is based on creating myths. So if Wicca works the way Witch describes, so what? She did put 'Magick' between quotes, didn't she? Compare it also with relaxation exercises: 'Imagine your body is X'. They work, even if you perfectly well know that your body is not really 'X'.
That's right and when rational people fall into the trap of accepting or promoting myths, no matter what the rationale, we are doomed. Lois I don't think so, Lois. We have to operate in a world where a great many people (who are otherwise rational) operate according to superstitions/religious beliefs/or are myth-based in their worldview. This may seem delusional to us, but we are certainly not doomed because these alternate worldviews exist or will continue to exist, unless the alternate worldviews are allowed to motivate others to extinguish our particular worldview. Meanwhile, I think that it is more important to help others regardless of their particular current worldview, than to imagine that we can somehow stamp out superstitious worldviews by steadfastly refusing to ever communicate with others on their level. And, also, I think that one can appreciate the underlying positive messages of some myth, while still recognizing that it is based in fiction. In my view, some people are simply not ready (and some may never be) to take on a worldview that is completely reality based. Are you suggesting that persons in helping roles should be less potentially effective, with those persons, in the name of promoting our worldview? If so, I disagree.
Myths are strong motivators for people. Most advertisement is based on creating myths. So if Wicca works the way Witch describes, so what? She did put 'Magick' between quotes, didn't she? Compare it also with relaxation exercises: 'Imagine your body is X'. They work, even if you perfectly well know that your body is not really 'X'.
That's right and when rational people fall into the trap of accepting or promoting myths, no matter what the rationale, we are doomed. Lois I don't think so, Lois. We have to operate in a world where a great many people (who are otherwise rational) operate according to superstitions/religious beliefs/or are myth-based in their worldview. This may seem delusional to us, but we are certainly not doomed because these alternate worldviews exist or will continue to exist, unless the alternate worldviews are allowed to motivate others to extinguish our particular worldview. Meanwhile, I think that it is more important to help others regardless of their particular current worldview, than to imagine that we can somehow stamp out superstitious worldviews by steadfastly refusing to ever communicate with others on their level. And, also, I think that one can appreciate the underlying positive messages of some myth, while still recognizing that it is based in fiction. In my view, some people are simply not ready (and some may never be) to take on a worldview that is completely reality based. Are you suggesting that persons in helping roles should be less potentially effective, with those persons, in the name of promoting our worldview? If so, I disagree. I'm sorry o disgree on this issue because we seem to agree on so much. First, I do not think that even people in helping roles need to enbraceirrational worldviews in order to help people with irrational world views. There are ways to help without joining in with irrational (or just plain inhumane) thought. I think we have to respect boundaries in order to help anyone. Let's change your post here to be about racism (just as an example, racism also being based on myth). Would you have written the following? "We have to operate in a world where a great many people (who are otherwise rational) operate according to racist principles based in their worldview. This may seem wrong to us, but we are certainly not doomed because these alternate worldviews exist or will continue to exist, unless the alternate worldviews are allowed to motivate others to extinguish our particular worldview. Meanwhile, I think that it is more important to help others regardless of their particular current worldview, than to imagine that we can somehow stamp out racism by steadfastly refusing to ever communicate with others on their level. And, also, I think that one can appreciate the underlying positive messages of some forms of racism, while still recognizing that it is based in fiction. "In my view, some people are simply not ready (and some may never be) to take on a worldview that is completely free of racism. . ." Lois

Lois makes a lot of sense, esp in the 21st century. It’s been over 50 years since the Civil Rights movement and there are still racist people and for the life of me, I cannot fathom why. By the same token, we’ve come a long ways with science, be it a soft science such as Psychology or a hard science such as physics. So many people over the centuries have denied science, rather they are just in denial or religious views, and look where it has lead us to concerning Climate Change. Religious superstition has played a large role in this and even with my comment that what “The Witch” was using was common psychology, it seemed her response didn’t have much to do with my comment and in essence showed how blind she was due to her beliefs. On top of it all, I don’t think she even realized that her reply didn’t addressed anything I said.

My mother always said the following:
“Racists are like boils on the ass. Hurt , ugly and difficult to destroy.”
And a German television presenter once said about racists:
“Racists believe that they were better than others. He (meaning an African athletes), has proved to them today in an impressive way the opposite.”
And I say this:
“Racists in Germany choose the color brown. Because shit looks the same!”

Hey WITCH…
Are you kidding me? You’re German and transsexual??? What are you doing here, trying to copy me :wink: Hehe…
Welcome home, baby!
Your sweet lil’ siaster,
Michelle

Hey WITCH... Are you kidding me? You're German and transsexual??? What are you doing here, trying to copy me ;) Hehe... Welcome home, baby! Your sweet lil' siaster, Michelle
Hi Michelle, Why should I kidding you? I do not know you. Or I know you but, as a "ThePassenger"? I have recently opened a small private website. I am a Wiccan. And you? What tells you this term: Merry meet and merry part? If you are a Wiccan, you know it.

Hey there Witch, have your read about this guy who sexually assaulted a 15 year old claiming it to be a religious freedom protected Wiccan ritual?
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/wildhunt/2012/03/sexual-assault-wicca-and-consent.html