Writing throughout human history

[butimfeeling2022]

Humans have been writing stuff down, and when that happened exactly in their history…we really don’t care here to say,

What I have to say here is that there is an impression in human beings that what they imagine, is what seems to be happening, and not that something else than what they can imagine seems to be happening, and that they can imagine how that is for the specific occasion.

Let’s try to explain this with two examples:

Exampe1: Before anyone started writing something down, what was happening around anyone wasn’t what was written down. (as there wasn’t something written down…)

Example2: After someone writes something down, that the specific someone believes is what seems to be happening, in order for the specific someone to really find this out, the specific someone really has to do experiments…

…and when you do an experiment you can have no results as an option, you can have the expected results, or something unexpected may happen.

Whether something unexpected may happen when one does an experiment, one can simply verify, and even simpler prove to everyone by considering the below experiment:

Pick a coin, choose a side and flip it as freely as you want to live.

After you think you can decide the side the coin ends up facing you right all the time, and before you come back to me with long and tedious stories…I have a question for you?

Regardless of the time and space you live, why didn’t you come now to tell me about it, as I am writing this long reply here…if you could predict the future…then why didn’t you predict it a bit earlier…look at how much stuff I have to write down here…waiting for you prophet…to come back to tell me that what seems to be happening is something you imagined, and not something else than anything anyone can imagine, which is pretty simple to say, pretty simple to observe, and seems pretty fair for any human…it seems to me.

and remember…

REALLY?

…yes really …what …NOT REALLY?!.

otherwise written down the above is:

· Something else than what humans can imagine has been happening around humans up to now since the beginning of humans…

· or else before humans, what does it seem to you was happening in reality?..

· Something that happened before humans, but that Humans imaginEd after their histoRy startEd GETting REAL, and not something else than what they can imagine?!.

One step before you really do everything, you really haven’t done everything yet, and something else than what you imagine is really happening, and one step after you do everything, you can’t forget the experience of what was happening before, or…you…didn’t really do everything…did you?

You think you are funny?
Nah, you ain’t funny yet…

[citizenschallengev4]

@butimfeeling2022

Exampe1: Before anyone started writing something down, what was happening around anyone wasn’t what was written down. (as there wasn’t something written down…)

Before the written was the oral tradition of story telling and handing down those historical stories through many generations. What came before the language that made story telling possible, that would be fun to understand, but alas, no time machine is handy.

@butimfeeling2022

Example2: After someone writes something down, that the specific someone believes is what seems to be happening, in order for the specific someone to really find this out, the specific someone really has to do experiments…

That doesn’t make sense. Retelling a story from a great battle, or a love story, how does do any experiments to establish original factuality - especially in the premodern era, when all this was taking place.

Continue by reading I was increasingly baffled. I’m assuming English is not your native tongue, so will blame that for the lack of clarity.

@butimfeeling2022

You think you are funny?
Nah, you ain’t funny yet…

Why are you already projecting into the reader’s mind, when you haven’t mastered writing with clarity (I don’t me grammatical perfection, I’m talking about your words making logical sense.

[write4u]

[quote=“butimfeeling2022, post:1, topic:9146”]
Let’s try to explain this with two examples:

Exampe1: Before anyone started writing something down, what was happening around anyone wasn’t what was written down. (as there wasn’t something written down…)

Look at it this way; When something is happening, that is the writing and when we represent it in English language we are merely translating what was written in spacetime. Reality is made up of molecular patterns, a form of writing in spacetime

Example2: After someone writes something down, that the specific someone believes is what seems to be happening, in order for the specific someone to really find this out, the specific someone really has to do experiments…

…and when you do an experiment you can have no results as an option, you can have the expected results, or something unexpected may happen.

You may not be aware but the brain does an automatic experiment with incoming data by comparing it with knowledge stored in memory and from that comparison the brain makes a “best guess” of what the incoming data represented so that it may be translated into human language.

As Anil Seth observes: we create our reality from the inside out as much as from the outside in.

[citizenschallengev4]

@write4u

You may not be aware but the brain does an automatic experiment with incoming data by comparing it with knowledge stored in memory and from that comparison the brain makes a “best guess” of what the incoming data represented so that it may be translated into human language.

Nicely played, and excellent point.

@write4u

As Anil Seth observes: we create our reality from the inside out as much as from the outside in.

You didn’t even use the “hallucination” word. I’m almost giddy.

[butimfeeling2022]

@citizenschallengev4

Retelling a story from a great battle, or a love story, how does do any experiments to establish original factuality

Retelling a story from a great battle, one establishes original factuality if the battle took place in the way that nature planned.
And that way player is…
…there is no honor in fighting, and when you have to fight, you fight only and always dishonorably…
…or we are stuck with idiots and their “great battle” stories…

how about those idiot learn have to have fun on their own, and after they learn that, try to have fun with others, or else it seems to me that they get confused, and start thinking their “great battles” are that “great” to nature…who had to make all those idiots choosing to spend their time and effort to fight for honor.

Did you get that player?

So now on the second part…

Regarding love player.
Love is an experiment that you play with another one, over and over and over in time player.
The aim of the experiment is to have fun with another one, without having to spend more time and effort trying to find how specifically you will do that this time, than you did the previous times, if you don’t really have to.
And when you really have to spend more time and effort, then you really put the time and effort needed, but not more than that still…or else you don’t really care where it is good enough for another…as…
…the universe had to care for you where it is good enough for you, and then let you really free to live and do whatever you wanted, so when you still don’t appreciate what the entire universe had to do for you, before you even existed…
…do you think the universe will really ask me to care more for you, when the entire universe couldn’t find anything else to do so that you can have fun here and now?

What do you player think?

[butimfeeling2022]

@write4u

You may not be aware but the brain does an automatic experiment with incoming data by comparing it with knowledge stored in memory and from that comparison the brain makes a “best guess” of what the incoming data represented so that it may be translated into human language.

You may not be aware but something else than what you imagine happens around you in reality.

What makes me say this to you in such a confident and rude way?

The fact that you don’t understand, that I am really free to call you an idiot from the universe, whenever I want to idiot, but the reason why the universe really leaves me free to call you an idiot, is that the universe didn’t really find something else to do with idiots…

Get it player?

If you don’t idiot, and you idiot imagined stuff, and they really happened, as you idiot imagine, surely then you idiot could come earlier and tell me to not tell you you are an idiot.
Do you understand now idiot?
Or do you idiot still think you have a chance in the universe?
What do you idiot really think, I really wonder idiot here?

[butimfeeling2022]

@citizenschallengev4

@write4u

You may not be aware but the brain does an automatic experiment with incoming data by comparing it with knowledge stored in memory and from that comparison the brain makes a “best guess” of what the incoming data represented so that it may be translated into human language.

Nicely played, and excellent point.

So when the automatic experiment doesn’t really work but the “brain” thought it would player,

do you think it makes sense to do something else…or do you…

…still think it is worth the time and effort reading and replying to nonsense?

[butimfeeling2022]

@citizenschallengev4

Before the written was the oral tradition of story telling and handing down those historical stories through many generations. What came before the language that made story telling possible, that would be fun to understand, but alas, no time machine is handy.

The first one to say something that made sense to other idiots…

do you think the first one just imagined what to say to other idiots, and idiots would understand regardless, just cause one said…

…or do you may entertain the idea that for the first one to say something that made sense to other idiots who didn’t know what was happening, something else than what that first one imagined had to happen earlier than that first one.

and forget about what other idiots think for a moment, so that you can try to think for yourself

Get it player, or are you still an idiot?

[citizenschallengev4]

@butimfeeling2022

Get it player, or are you still an idiot?

You’re getting a little heavy handed with your projection.

Beyond that I think you need to spend more time thinking about deep-time and evolution unfolding one day at a time, over unimaginable expanses of time.

Before humans, apes were communicating, if only by grunts and calls,
Before that mammals were developing all sorts of ways of communicating,
Heck we can trace communication all the way back to bugs, and even beyond.

So it was never like one morning some guy thought of saying some words, and others just happened to understand them.
You gotta think beyond your limited experiences.

Oh and have a nice day, you seem like a real cherry of a person, so don’t forget to hug someone who deserves it, you’ll feel better.

[write4u]

@butimfeeling2022

@write4u

You may not be aware but the brain does an automatic experiment with incoming data by comparing it with knowledge stored in memory and from that comparison the brain makes a “best guess” of what the incoming data represented so that it may be translated into human language.

You may not be aware but something else than what you imagine happens around you in reality.

What makes me say this to you in such a confident and rude way?

Because you misunderstood what I wrote and assumed it was an ad hominem.

What I meant and did say is that a person is actually unaware of this autonomous verification process that the brain performs with incoming data.

As Anil Seth observes; “You create your reality from the inside out as much as from the outside in”.

But you need not feel too silly about it. You’re not here for serious discussion anyway, so basically I am addressing other readers that may be seriously interested in the subject.