I came back to have something to occupy my brain as I’ve been sitting here literally by my mom’s bedside.
I left before because of one person and I appreciate that they haven’t been a problem, but now there is another. On Quora, this sort of thing just isn’t allowed, period, so maybe I’m not used to it… plus I’m exhausted and sad because my mom is dying.
At any rate, I don’t like losing my shit, and I especially don’t like it when I feel singled out.
So Sherlock can drive everyone crazy by being an insulting troll, and no one can react with a completely normal human reaction?
If Tee broke the rules, Sherlock has smashed them a thousand times.
It’s like in hockey where one guy spears and trips guys all game without a call, and when someone finally punches him in the face like he deserves, they get the penalty. (I’m Canadian, so hockey analogies are the norm for me.)
I just sent Tee a message telling her I think it’s total crap that she got a warning and Sherlock still walks free. I’m going to send dougsmith one as well.
@teebryantoo Please check out the forum rules; links are posted at the tops of pages. If you feel that someone has broken a rule you can call it to our attention by reporting the relevant post. Thanks.
That is exactly how it works. I would say it's actually a tactic of people like Holmes, "draw the penalty" so to speak. In forums, I can see the necessity, because otherwise Doug would have to evaluate the quality of everyone's arguments. Despite the obvious, there are places and people who would accept what Holmes says, there are people who get paid to say what he repeats. It's completely illogical and untrue, but Holmes' argument that there are "masses of data" that support him, actually is a valid reason to not flag him on the forum rules. To keep the hockey analogy, it would be like a penalty for not having all their forwards correctly positioned.
"Please check out the forum rules; links are posted at the tops of pages. If you feel that someone has broken a rule you can call it to our attention by reporting the relevant post. Thanks."
We should start a thread on the purpose of rules.
There is the letter of the law and the spirit of the law. The spirit of the law is what matters and the letter of the law is to be stretched around that spirit.
To pretend that Sherlock hasn’t taken a great steaming dump on the spirit of the laws here is a joke. Words are what they mean in context, not in the dictionary. We can’t ignore what Sherlock actually means by pretending we’re blind idiots.
In forums, I can see the necessity, because otherwise Doug would have to evaluate the quality of everyone’s arguments.
I told doug to do just that. He was going to let Player go last time, and now Sherlock was going to be ignored. I know doug's job here is thankless, but he must look at the cause of outbursts, not see them in isolation.
@Holmes I know I’m just getting into this conversation, but I’ve been reading through the various comments. I have to ask you, if evolution isn’t true, how do you explain humans and Bonobos/Chimps being 98% genetically similar? Also, to put it on a simple level, how do you explain the great apes, which include humans, chimps, gorillas, and orangutans, having 5 digits on their hands and feet, as well as similar facial structures and other similarities?
I know I’m just getting into this conversation, but I’ve been reading through the various comments. I have to ask you, if evolution isn’t true, how do you explain humans and Bonobos/Chimps being 98% genetically similar? Also, to put it on a simple level, how do you explain the great apes, which include humans, chimps, gorillas, and orangutans, having 5 digits on their hands and feet, as well as similar facial structures and other similarities?
Even if DNA was an Intelligently Designed irreducible complexity, there is no denying that the great Apes existed before humans and therefore human DNA borrowed bits and pieces (98%) from the “common ancestor”, else humans would not be sharing DNA, no?
However, the best argument for “common ancestry” can be found in this excellent article.
Introduction: All great apes apart from man have 24 pairs of chromosomes. There is therefore a hypothesis that the common ancestor of all great apes had 24 pairs of chromosomes and that the fusion of two of the ancestor's chromosomes created chromosome 2 in humans. The evidence for this hypothesis is very strong.
I wasn’t going to say anything as to why I was reading the whole conversation, I’ve reconsidered.
@3point14rat As a fellow mod, I read your comment above and listened.
@HolmesAs I read through this conversation twice in consideration of 3point14rat comment, it is my opinion you violated 3E of the rules in that you were attempting to bait others, as well as troll, which I have brought some instances that I feel relate to that rule to the other mods. However, this does not negate anything Doug said above in blue, but I also think you should read the rules too, in particular that specific rule.
@Write4U Exactly and I agree. I was trying to find out what Sherlock Holmes would say about the 98% similarity given his comments concerning Evolution. Of course he wanted it proven false, but I doubt that’s going to happen.
I wasn’t going to say anything as to why I was reading the whole conversation, I’ve reconsidered.
@3point14rat As a fellow mod, I read your comment above and listened.
@holmes As I read through this conversation twice in consideration of 3point14rat comment, it is my opinion you violated 3E of the rules in that you were attempting to bait others, as well as troll, which I have brought some instances that I feel relate to that rule to the other mods. However, this does not negate anything Doug said above in blue, but I also think you should read the rules too, in particular that specific rule.
I’m wondering would it be against forum rules if I pointed out Holmes was being a total asshole by deliberately derailing this thread?
And what’s with the injection of his racism to begin with? - what the heck did that have to do with anything?
Just ask’n.
Tee, my apologies. And to think all you were looking for was some adult conversation.
You’re welcome and yes, I did notice the race baiting as I made notes on this thread. It will all get worked out somehow. A lot of us are wanting adult conversations, but right now, I think we’re all tired and need to take a break, a few deep breaths, and relax.
To be clear, I’m not happy with how Holmes is treating people. He posts in multiple threads, crossing his conversation over all of them. He uses every form of name calling short of swear words. Trolling is so loosely defined, but yeah, he’s a troll. The sanction of banning someone is retributive and final, so I’m not a big fan of it. He’ll read this page, and hopefully have something to say about it. Nothing constructive of course, but something.
I also noticed your frustration, Lausten, as I read through the posts in this topic, but I’m very glad you voiced your opinion and feelings on this too. It shows I wasn’t reading more into any of the posts than what was there. Thank you.
Lausten all I’m doing is replying to other people’s posts, I am not doing anything other than expressing my opinion and either agreeing or disagreeing with others, labeling this as “treating people” is once again introducing an emotional component.
I believe that you believe that. But since you feel so strongly about that, it’s hard to even discuss it. You demand full quotes when I respond to you, and when I do, you disagree about what I say about them. They are your thoughts, so you can clarify them, but I’m usually left more confused about what you are trying to say. Since you post so much so quickly, I have to pick what’s important and I usually drop the conversations about tone. If you truly want to “learn what others think”, I would expect you to be more careful with your conversations and focus on fewer points, and bring them to conclusions.
Introduction: All great apes apart from man have 24 pairs of chromosomes. There is therefore a hypothesis that the common ancestor of all great apes had 24 pairs of chromosomes and that the fusion of two of the ancestor's chromosomes created chromosome 2 in humans. The evidence for this hypothesis is very strong.