Why other countries are not playing along with the US regarding Snowden.

I have high respect for the American people and their influences. In many respects, I admire the U.S. more than any other. And I assure you that the rest of the world is more relieved than ever for Obama's Presidency. It isn't America that the world has a problem with. It is particular Americans like the Bush's who pose the largest concern for everyone.
To the Europeans perhaps. But the Bushes of the world aren't the major cause for concern, it's the Obamas who think that you can be soft with regards to the dangerous countries and then not expect chaos to break out.
I should note that the whole rest of the world is more global conscious in the sense of limits that political borders pose and find America as part of their hearts and homes. It is the hypocrisy of those members of the U.S. who play unfairly to us all, including the American people that bothers them. The, "yeah, whatever" attitude is symbolic of the trust and lack of threat people feel towards Obama.
Lack of threat, I agree, trust I don't know if that's the correct word. More like just plain lack of respect.
I did argue a position...You, Cloak and Cuthbert just glossed over the most relevant position I made. You didn't reply to the most obvious and relevant point I made!! Here, I'll send it again... Did you forget that they are trying to detect and prevent terrorist attacks?!?!
No, I haven't forgotten what they've said. I'm just one of those who think that it's grade "A" bullshit. History has clearly shown that, for more than half a decade, the most effective and efficient of all global terrorist groups hasn't been dwelling overseas. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsuhoVDm-Ag Yes, Obama, thank you for saving me from those mean old 3 year olds and pregnant women who obviously posed a serious threat to me and my family. Please continue. “Everyone’s worried about stopping terrorism. Well, there’s really an easy way: Stop participating in it." -Noam Chomsky- Stop engaging in terrorism, and stop breeding new ones by randomly dropping bombs on innocent people, and then I'll start taking them seriously. What I think is really happening is that the US is keenly aware of what they are doing to their own country, and are concerned about domestic blowback from the locals, not just Muslim extremists. This is why US citizens are now able to be arrested, detained, and even assassinated with no due process, and why drones are now allowed on US soil. It's why they go after whistleblowers and the journalists who work with them without anyone being able to do a thing about it. The Patriot Act and NDAA were merely the first few steps, and this illegal surveillance nonsense, something that people on both the left and the right have been trying to warn the public of for over a decade, is simply another step. The framers didn't just randomly decide that such activity is wrong because it just makes people "uncomfortable". It's much more serious than that. The reason that this stuff was supposed to be illegal is not simply because it's an "invasion of privacy". It is because it allows people to pre-emptively build a case for potential prosecution "just in case", regardless of whether the "evidence" is really evidence at all. This is why it makes everyone a "potential terrorist". And it allows government officials to bribe and strong-arm individuals because they have tons of private info on them. How hard would it be to threaten and shut up a public official by threatening to release their pornography records to the public? Our country's gradual move towards a police-state is not some hidden conspiracy that only a bunch of nuts entertain. More and more people are starting to see what is happening and it isn't just those of the Alex Jones variety.
I think you have it exactly wrong. For decades Goliath has been calling the shots, acting as if He and only He was god's gift to the rest of the world. And this was exemplified by Bush Jr. Now that Goliath is faltering, the rest aren't as afraid as they used to be. Obama (and I'm no fan of his believe me) with the more "hey we're just one amongst you, not above you" attitude is viewed MORE respectfully not less. Let's put it this way...everyone else in the world finally realized John Wayne's real name was Marion Mitchell Morrison. Not quite the same macho feel to it.
But the United States is not just "one amongst everyone else." That isn't to say it is above everyone else, but it is the United States that underwrites global trade and global security, and has done so since the end of World War II. And Europe has been plenty happy to let the U.S. bear the brunt of that burden militarily. Which is fine, but the United States is thus to a good degree the leader of the free world. I would not say that the United States is faltering right now anymore than anyone else is, it is just our current leadership. Obama could very much have an attitude of having a more multilateral rather than unilateral foreign policy, but still be seen as strong and respected. It's not like either the United States can take the position of it being the boss and everyone else is supposed to follow or just being one amongst the other nations, it could very much be seen as the leader of the free nations, but yet still consult with those nations and try to seek consensus on issues. But instead right now, the U.S. under Obama is not respected by any of the countries like China, Russia, Iran, etc...those countries should have the attitude of, "What are the Americans saying about what we are doing?" as opposed to "Who cares what the Americans think about us." Bush came across too much as a cowboy unfortunately but Obama is too far to the opposite I think.
I did argue a position...You, Cloak and Cuthbert just glossed over the most relevant position I made. You didn't reply to the most obvious and relevant point I made!! Here, I'll send it again... Did you forget that they are trying to detect and prevent terrorist attacks?!?!
No, I haven't forgotten what they've said. I'm just one of those who think that it's grade "A" bullshit. History has clearly shown that, for more than half a decade, the most effective and efficient of all global terrorist groups hasn't been dwelling overseas. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsuhoVDm-Ag Yes, Obama, thank you for saving me from those mean old 3 year olds and pregnant women who obviously posed a serious threat to me and my family. Please continue. “Everyone’s worried about stopping terrorism. Well, there’s really an easy way: Stop participating in it." -Noam Chomsky- Stop engaging in terrorism, and stop breeding new ones by randomly dropping bombs on innocent people, and then I'll start taking them seriously. What I think is really happening is that the US is keenly aware of what they are doing to their own country, and are concerned about domestic blowback from the locals, not just Muslim extremists. This is why US citizens are now able to be arrested, detained, and even assassinated with no due process, and why drones are now allowed on US soil. It's why they go after whistleblowers and the journalists who work with them without anyone being able to do a thing about it. The Patriot Act and NDAA were merely the first few steps, and this illegal surveillance nonsense, something that people on both the left and the right have been trying to warn the public of for over a decade, is simply another step. The framers didn't just randomly decide that such activity is wrong because it just makes people "uncomfortable". It's much more serious than that. The reason that this stuff was supposed to be illegal is not simply because it's an "invasion of privacy". It is because it allows people to pre-emptively build a case for potential prosecution "just in case", regardless of whether the "evidence" is really evidence at all. This is why it makes everyone a "potential terrorist". And it allows government officials to bribe and strong-arm individuals because they have tons of private info on them. How hard would it be to threaten and shut up a public official by threatening to release their pornography records to the public? Our country's gradual move towards a police-state is not some hidden conspiracy that only a bunch of nuts entertain. More and more people are starting to see what is happening and it isn't just those of the Alex Jones variety. I can't have a discussion with you. You are all over the road. "The sky is falling the sky is falling!!" Stop watching the news for 1 month. That includes, this politics forum, the internets, papers etc..Clear your mind. You're just spouting out alarmist horse crap. You say you want to unite people? Is this how you want to unite people? Through fear? That's what the reactionaries do. Your falling right into their hands. Nobody is interested in your privacy or your social/political beliefs. Get some idea of historical context, and seriously stop watching the media and news for one month. I challenge you! You'll thank me. I promise you.
I did argue a position...You, Cloak and Cuthbert just glossed over the most relevant position I made. You didn't reply to the most obvious and relevant point I made!! Here, I'll send it again... Did you forget that they are trying to detect and prevent terrorist attacks?!?!
No, I haven't forgotten what they've said. I'm just one of those who think that it's grade "A" bullshit. History has clearly shown that, for more than half a decade, the most effective and efficient of all global terrorist groups hasn't been dwelling overseas. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsuhoVDm-Ag Yes, Obama, thank you for saving me from those mean old 3 year olds and pregnant women who obviously posed a serious threat to me and my family. Please continue. “Everyone’s worried about stopping terrorism. Well, there’s really an easy way: Stop participating in it." -Noam Chomsky- Stop engaging in terrorism, and stop breeding new ones by randomly dropping bombs on innocent people, and then I'll start taking them seriously. What I think is really happening is that the US is keenly aware of what they are doing to their own country, and are concerned about domestic blowback from the locals, not just Muslim extremists. This is why US citizens are now able to be arrested, detained, and even assassinated with no due process, and why drones are now allowed on US soil. It's why they go after whistleblowers and the journalists who work with them without anyone being able to do a thing about it. The Patriot Act and NDAA were merely the first few steps, and this illegal surveillance nonsense, something that people on both the left and the right have been trying to warn the public of for over a decade, is simply another step. The framers didn't just randomly decide that such activity is wrong because it just makes people "uncomfortable". It's much more serious than that. The reason that this stuff was supposed to be illegal is not simply because it's an "invasion of privacy". It is because it allows people to pre-emptively build a case for potential prosecution "just in case", regardless of whether the "evidence" is really evidence at all. This is why it makes everyone a "potential terrorist". And it allows government officials to bribe and strong-arm individuals because they have tons of private info on them. How hard would it be to threaten and shut up a public official by threatening to release their pornography records to the public? Our country's gradual move towards a police-state is not some hidden conspiracy that only a bunch of nuts entertain. More and more people are starting to see what is happening and it isn't just those of the Alex Jones variety. I can't have a discussion with you. You are all over the road. "The sky is falling the sky is falling!!" Stop watching the news for 1 month. That includes, this politics forum, the internets, papers etc..Clear your mind. You're just spouting out alarmist horse crap. You say you want to unite people? Is this how you want to unite people? Through fear? That's what the reactionaries do. Your falling right into their hands. Nobody is interested in your privacy or your social/political beliefs. Get some idea of historical context, and seriously stop watching the media and news for one month. I challenge you! You'll thank me. I promise you. "United through fear"? No. Fear is the reason why people like you can so easily be duped into believing rapid-fire bullshit like "We are doing it to protect you from those terrorists" regardless of the fact that the same people who are telling you this is chipping away your civil liberties, piece by piece, in order to "protect" you. I, on the other hand, am trying to unite people on the basis of facts and solidarity. I'm trying to get people to get collectively pissed off, and at the RIGHT people. You, and many other so-called "liberals", on the other hand, are interested in nothing more than defending EVERY single damn thing that the Obama administration does, as long as the people you don't like didn't come up with the idea. This is why some people say that there is no such thing as a Democratic party anymore. There is just the Republicans vs the moderate Republicans (a.k.a. the castrated-Democratic party). If denial of anything that bothers you allows you to sleep at night, have at it. Go back to sleep.
Cloak-"United through fear"? No. Fear is the reason why people like you can so easily be duped into believing rapid-fire bullshit like "We are doing it to protect you from those terrorists" regardless of the fact that the same people who are telling you this is chipping away your civil liberties, piece by piece, in order to "protect" you. I, on the other hand, am trying to unite people on the basis of facts and solidarity. I'm trying to get people to get collectively pissed off, and at the RIGHT people. You, and many other liberals, on the other hand, are interested in nothing more than defending EVERY single damn thing that the Obama administration does, as long as the people you don't like didn't come up with the idea. This is why some people say that there is no such thing as a Democratic party anymore. There is just the Republicans vs the moderate Republicans (a.k.a. the castrated-Democratic party). If denial of anything that bothers you allows you to sleep at night, have at it. Go back to sleep.
OK.

Oh, I personally am not afraid of terrorists. So there is no fear there. That’s from an odds point of view.
However I understand politics and political leaders who are sworn to protect the people. And I’m willing to go along with their techniques.
So far I haven’t noticed any infringements of my rights. Even when Bush and Cheney started this method of protection.
It has nothing to do with Obama. Obama is doing exactly what he and all his advisers and countless Congresspeople suggest and support.
You think Obama or any other president is going to risk dropping the ball on their watch and have another 3000 people get killed?

Oh, I personally am not afraid of terrorists. So there is no fear there. That's from an odds point of view. However I understand politics and political leaders who are sworn to protect the people. And I'm willing to go along with their techniques. So far I haven't noticed any infringements of my rights. Even when Bush and Cheney started this method of protection. It has nothing to do with Obama. Obama is doing exactly what he and all his advisers and countless Congresspeople suggest and support. You think Obama or any other president is going to risk dropping the ball on their watch and have another 3000 people get killed?
Ok.
What was the 9-11 comment about? Reply.
What is unclear about my statement? I think that looking at your writing style, perhaps you learned to read a little different than others. There is nothing wrong with that. I think though that it may help to keep a grammar text and dictionary on hand to help understand how others are conventionally communicating. To help clarify for you, what I was saying was that since the hi-jacking that occurred on 9/11 was fundamentally the cause of these men to take over the plane because of the doors that pilots have always conventionally been kept open (usually to invite kids up to the cockpit to meet them), all that was required to solve future terrorist incidents of the sort would be to have a policy to always keep the cockpit doors closed and locked in the future. This, I believe, was all that was necessary to fix the problem rather than the extreme measures that the governments went through for security. I am presuming that the government knew this but wanted to take advantage of the situation to take the measures that they've wanted to do before: create a Homeland Security division accountable directly to the President, exaggerated security measures imposed on private industries to be provisional to individual's tracking data, and a cause for war.
Scott-This, I believe, was all that was necessary to fix the problem rather than the extreme measures that the governments went through for security. I am presuming that the government knew this but wanted to take advantage of the situation to take the measures that they've wanted to do before: create a Homeland Security division accountable directly to the President, exaggerated security measures imposed on private industries to be provisional to individual's tracking data, and a cause for war.
You're presuming the govt. knew this but wanted to take advantage of the situation to take measures that they've wanted to do before? etc etc... Aren't there other Forums specifically designed for the hysterically paranoid? It's not even your Government...so what do you care? Why don't you worry about your own govt.? Campaign up there to further disconnect yourself from our security apparatus. So they left the cockpit doors unlocked hoping they would get hijacked so then we could go to war? Like I said earlier to you...take a break. Take a vacation. Quit immersing yourself in all these blogs and paranoid conspiracy forums.
Scott-This, I believe, was all that was necessary to fix the problem rather than the extreme measures that the governments went through for security. I am presuming that the government knew this but wanted to take advantage of the situation to take the measures that they've wanted to do before: create a Homeland Security division accountable directly to the President, exaggerated security measures imposed on private industries to be provisional to individual's tracking data, and a cause for war.
You're presuming the govt. knew this but wanted to take advantage of the situation to take measures that they've wanted to do before? etc etc... Aren't there other Forums specifically designed for the hysterically paranoid? It's not even your Government...so what do you care? Why don't you worry about your own govt.? Campaign up there to further disconnect yourself from our security apparatus. So they left the cockpit doors unlocked hoping they would get hijacked so then we could go to war? Like I said earlier to you...take a break. Take a vacation. Quit immersing yourself in all these blogs and paranoid conspiracy forums.
I haven't actually invested much time in checking out conspiracy theories and nor have I read any blogs to this regard. I have my own mind and ability to view the regular media with a careful eye. But I'm not certain where you get the idea that what I have said has even anything to do with conspiracy theories in the first place. If you are considering any person who believes that some group of individuals has done wrong is to be considered non-worthy of attention you are senseless. Any group, technically who has a view differently than others and attempts to apply their philosophy is a conspiracy. So your use of the term to accuse me of it is just abusive nonsense. Your faith in your Bush administration does not represent all Americans. And your presumption that I have no reason to complain because I am not American isn't founded. As your government has any involvement external to your borders, it is all of the world to be relevantly concerned and involved. I'd advise you to take a vacation yourself, say, ...Iraq, for instance. You're bullying and ignorant. Grow up.
You're presuming the govt. knew this but wanted to take advantage of the situation to take measures that they've wanted to do before? etc etc... Aren't there other Forums specifically designed for the hysterically paranoid?
Google "project for the new american century" and click the ... Oh hell, I'll save you the trouble. Go here] and read the articles about how the people who selected GW Bush and ran the government during his administration had plans to invade Iraq while Bill Clinton was in office.
Scott-This, I believe, was all that was necessary to fix the problem rather than the extreme measures that the governments went through for security. I am presuming that the government knew this but wanted to take advantage of the situation to take the measures that they've wanted to do before: create a Homeland Security division accountable directly to the President, exaggerated security measures imposed on private industries to be provisional to individual's tracking data, and a cause for war.
You're presuming the govt. knew this but wanted to take advantage of the situation to take measures that they've wanted to do before? etc etc... Aren't there other Forums specifically designed for the hysterically paranoid? It's not even your Government...so what do you care? Why don't you worry about your own govt.? Campaign up there to further disconnect yourself from our security apparatus. So they left the cockpit doors unlocked hoping they would get hijacked so then we could go to war? Like I said earlier to you...take a break. Take a vacation. Quit immersing yourself in all these blogs and paranoid conspiracy forums.
Calling something "hysterically paranoid" when there is lots of down to earth evidence - is... is... is less than forthright. Aren't you forgetting that if justice for 9/11 was the goal...{ after ignoring the many concerns and warnings of a serious impending terrorist attack.} Then our actions would have been limited to the perpetrators - and not expand into a madmen's money making scheme(http://rense.com/general29/dbus.htm)... is that too harsh... it wasn't about war-bucks - it was personal - Saddam shit on the hand that had been feeding it - so USA's hard on to invade Iraq was actually a history lesson Neocons decided needed to be taught - oh yea that makes it so much better - with the war profits just being a nice little dividend on the side. ~ ~ ~
‘Building momentum for regime change’: Rumsfeld’s secret memos Michael Isikoff 9:27 AM on 02/16/2013 http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/02/16/building-momentum-for-regime-change-rumsfelds-secret-memos/ Declassified documents show that Bush administration officials wanted Saddam Hussein out of Iraq and were ready to start a war in order to achieve it. Just hours after the 9/11 attacks, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld met in the Pentagon with Air Force General Richard Myers, then vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and other top aides. Notes taken by Rumsfeld aide Steve Cambone (and referred to pages 334 and 335 of the 9/11 Commission Report) show the secretary asked for the “best info fast..judge whether good enough [to] hit S.H. [Saddam Hussein] @ same time—not only UBL [Osama bin Laden]." Rumsfeld also tasked Jim Haynes, the Pentagon’s top lawyer, “to talk w/ PW [Paul Wolfowitz] for additional support [for the] connection w/ UBL." Other comments from the notes: “Need to move swiftly…go massive–sweep it all up things related and not."
Key Bush Intelligence Briefing Kept From Hill Panel National Journal - By Murray Waas Updated: May 29, 2013 | 10:06 p.m. November 22, 2005 | 9:50 a.m. http://www.nationaljournal.com/whitehouse/key-bush-intelligence-briefing-kept-from-hill-panel-20051122?mrefid=site_search&page=1 Ten days after the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, President Bush was told in a highly classified briefing that the U.S. intelligence community had no evidence linking the Iraqi regime of Saddam Hussein to the attacks and that there was scant credible evidence that Iraq had any significant collaborative ties with Al Qaeda, according to government records and current and former officials with firsthand knowledge of the matter. {...} One of the more intriguing things that Bush was told during the briefing was that the few credible reports of contacts between Iraq and Al Qaeda involved attempts by Saddam Hussein to monitor the terrorist group. Saddam viewed Al Qaeda as well as other theocratic radical Islamist organizations as a potential threat to his secular regime. At one point, analysts believed, Saddam considered infiltrating the ranks of Al Qaeda with Iraqi nationals or even Iraqi intelligence operatives to learn more about its inner workings, according to records and sources.
Here's another look at the USA's insanest undertaking eeva. Born of neocon hubris and christian self-centered blindness and good'ol America Greed
By Brian Resnick | The First Days of the Iraq War, as Seen Through National Journal Correspondents Updated: March 19, 2013 | 4:49 p.m. March 19, 2013 | 4:08 p.m.
Here's some more to chew on:
9/11: Possible Motives Of The Bush Administration By David Ray Griffin Global Research, December 02, 2005 http://www.globalresearch.ca/9-11-possible-motives-of-the-bush-administration/1391
It makes a thinking person wonder whether this information - that most American refuse to acknowledge with the dismissive label "hysterically paranoid" - But, that is common knowledge to informed people throughout the world might also have a little something to do with the growing contempt with which America is viewed. As for the world loving America for all it is - I got the feeling there's a clear line between respect and admiration for the pre-9/11 America and the post-9/11 America. Tragically, the president so many of us had so much hope for is turning out to be another clone. Not that that's all too surprising given the gauntlet candidates need to negotiate - still hope springs eternal only to get dashed just as often. :down:

I’m not doubting that 9-11 wasn’t a pre-text for invading Iraq. Terrorist fears and WMD was a pre-text for invading Iraq. Everyone knows that.
But to suggest that anybody allowed those attacks to happen when they could have been prevented?
To suggest that cockpit doors were purposely left unlocked for terrorists?
That’s what I’m taking about.

I'm not doubting that 9-11 wasn't a pre-text for invading Iraq. Terrorist fears and WMD was a pre-text for invading Iraq. Everyone knows that. But to suggest that anybody allowed those attacks to happen when they could have been prevented? To suggest that cockpit doors were purposely left unlocked for terrorists? That's what I'm taking about.
GW Bush and his advisors ignored a report stating Al Queda was preparing to launch an attack on U.S. soil.
I'm not doubting that 9-11 wasn't a pre-text for invading Iraq. Terrorist fears and WMD was a pre-text for invading Iraq. Everyone knows that. But to suggest that anybody allowed those attacks to happen when they could have been prevented? To suggest that cockpit doors were purposely left unlocked for terrorists? That's what I'm taking about.
GW Bush and his advisors ignored a report stating Al Queda was preparing to launch an attack on U.S. soil. I've heard all this before. The main point is what did they ignore? What exactly was in the report? And how could they have prepared for any possible intelligence that was in the report? Did they ignore the report? Or did they just not take it seriously..which isn't a crime. The degree of negligence is in inverse proportion to the lack of details and lack of clear and present danger in the report. Whatever the facts are, there are over-arching issues that were in play before and after all these events unfolded. Obviously there was a strong desire to invade Iraq for oil. And for this I will start a new thread....
Tragically, the president so many of us had so much hope for is turning out to be another clone.
Finally! Someone with the guts to actually just say something like this for crying out loud! Many people are starting to realize that Obama is actually a much more effective evil than Bush was. There are even African Americans that are starting to say this. The fact is: Obama's the slickest package that the establishment has every introduced to us. Most of us fell for it. Perhaps he started out sincere, and really meant all of the promises he made. Whatever happened along the way, we don't know, but he is NOT the guy who campaigned for the presidential election in 2008. Either he changed, or he was a shill from the beginning. Either way, he's our Bush, and we have to be able to say that, otherwise we WILL fall for this again. Real change starts with having the testicular fortitude to just admit it.
I'm not doubting that 9-11 wasn't a pre-text for invading Iraq. Terrorist fears and WMD was a pre-text for invading Iraq. Everyone knows that. But to suggest that anybody allowed those attacks to happen when they could have been prevented? To suggest that cockpit doors were purposely left unlocked for terrorists? That's what I'm taking about.
Well yes, I am suggesting that the evidence points to the pre-9/11 Bush Administration not having the slightest interest in preventing terrorist attacks on US property. I'm also suggesting they had no idea of what that attack was actually going to be and in their hubris couldn't see past an embassy or warship "incident". oops and yes I take Richard A. Clarke's word over the draft-dodging Prez, VP and rest of the neocon cast.

Maybe it’s just me, but whenever I see the word “neocon” I am strongly inclined to note a similarity to the Nazis of Godwin’s Law.

Like I said elsewhere in actual sincerity: Let's require all government representatives and major officials to have their lives recorded live everywhere they go for their terms in office. This would assure us the democratic accountability that is lacking and make them respect their beliefs to evade privacy rights for others.
What kind of privacy do you really think you need to protect? Most govt officials and reps do have their lives recorded everywhere they go while in office. That's why many of them get caught having affairs, smoking crack in bathrooms, embezzling money, taking favors. That's why they are on the news and TV all the time. That's why you know about their daughters graduations or their sons new braces. Did you forget that they are looking for terrorists? Did it ever occur to you that they might want to prevent another 9-11 type disaster? Did you know that that is what govts do to protect their citizens? What privacy do you really want to protect. Do you think anyone gives a crap what you do in your private time? Do you? No, I don't care what they do in the bathroom. I care about the private deals they make behind the American people's backs. I care about the secret meetings where we get screwed without our consent, where the so-called "democratic process" gets circumvented. I care about the fact that our so called "representatives" can read all of our letters, see all of our emails, take all of our calls, yet still do the very opposite of what the people want, simply because the guy with the most money and direct-access asked him to. I care about the fact that legislation can be passed without the people being alerted about it. I don't care about the fact that Anthony Weiner wants to show random women his little dingy. I care about the fact that people in the same position as Weiner can easily, with very little impunity betray those who put them office in the first place. I don't want to see the guy taking a crap at home in his bathroom. What I want is full disclosure of every single deal that is made, every single donation (including full disclosure of the (donors), and every single deliberation prior to voting on the legislation. And give me the freedom to remove a portion of the politician's income and deposit it back into my bank account, every single time I feel that I have been deceived or misrepresented. Forgive me for not being as trusting as you are, but when a group of people who claim to represent us takes trillions of our dollars and gives it to Wall Street criminals, Goldman Sachs, and Monsanto, it's a bit difficult for me to adopt such a position. Call me crazy, but I tend to feel like our government and their corporate bosses are a bigger problem than this "ever-present threat" of terrorism that they keep trying to shove down our throats. You're absolutely right. Lois